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Old 12-11-2011, 01:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This post is not to scare anyone. Nor is my intention to declare that I know more. I am a psychic, Vedic astrologer, and a spiritual counselor from India. I have had all my past life readings from the celestial world . I have been observing for the past 3 decades of my practice , the misfortune in the lives of those who try to decipher the readings , that was kept as secret and concealed from the mortal bodies for obvious reasons. The equilibrium of this laboratory called Earth is bound by Karmic philosophy, and any short cuts to override the Karma will be thwarted by the Masters ( Or By the very system). When You apply breaks on your Car either the tires or the ground gets damaged. It cannot be otherwise. Being aware of this universal principle would do good both for the reader as well as for the read. Good luck!!

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Old 12-12-2011, 06:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This may be a warning about here (Earth-ish), something vague about vengeful ‘Masters’.

But what does that have to do with other (unknown) realms?

Sounds like you have not followed your own advice by accessing the ‘celestial world’.

BTW, the ‘Masters’ do not all agree and they are not all powerful
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This may be a warning about here (Earth-ish), something vague about vengeful ‘Masters’.

But what does that have to do with other (unknown) realms?

Sounds like you have not followed your own advice by accessing the ‘celestial world’.

BTW, the ‘Masters’ do not all agree and they are not all powerful

Thank you for the response. A few clarifications.First, I had my readings not at my instance always. Secondly i do not advocate or perform short cuts.What I thought of sharing here is the power of the rule of Karma and its binding on all. If I need to help you , no one could stop me perhaps. However i should be prepared to share the piece of your Karma that I am trying to alter.

As for the last point you made. I fully agree that no one is all powerful in a higher sense .
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What I thought of sharing here is the power of the rule of Karma and its binding on all.
Perhaps a more to the point title next time, you might still be able to change it??

I believe that karma is always optional. Further through spiritual growth, one ‘out-grows’ the need for it.
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If I need to help you , no one could stop me perhaps. However i should be prepared to share the piece of your Karma that I am trying to alter.
This suggests that you see karma as a collective rather than personal thing. Somehow you can ‘take’ may karma and get me ‘out’ of it??

Have you suggested that the ‘Masters’ ‘get’ karma by ‘overriding’ our attempts to bypass it?
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Your statements seem to be bound within the confines of physical reality. As we are primarily spiritual beings, how much would this affect us anyway? What might be a in your view a ‘short cut’ (in this realm), might be perfectly acceptable elsewhere?

Have you considered that I might be a master and am free to do as I please?
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1-We are talking about the evolving spirits and not about the evolved ones. The latter souls could override the Karma. However completely evolved souls do not require earthly experience and as such is outside the purview of this post.( Hope You agree!)

2-The point that you brought in " The collective Vs Personal Karma " is interesting. I am still puzzled by the phenomenon.( The reaction(?) of Karma that one attempts to alter is based on personal observation and experience and I need to find a logical frame work for it! ). However I feel once I interfere in anyone's Karma that might become part of my Karma .)

3-And the last point.. being a master I could short cut and get away being acceptable.... is irrelevant for the ordinary souls.( refer point.1)
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@thecommoner Why is it so hard to write a full-length post without clarifying anything? Why is the first post more like a blurb than an actual explanation of the thread title? Why must one have to play these games of ask and answer in order to actually understand what the original poster meant?
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1-We are talking about the evolving spirits and not about the evolved ones. The latter souls could override the Karma. However completely evolved souls do not require earthly experience and as such is outside the purview of this post.( Hope You agree!)
Hey it’s your topic, make it what you want. It would help if you include this sort of context in the original post. Many here are not as primitive as you assume. As you seem to be limiting this topic to just starting evolving souls, I will stop asking about the bigger scope.

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3-And the last point.. being a master I could short cut and get away being acceptable.... is irrelevant for the ordinary souls.( refer point.1)
It’s a (self) limiting approach to assume that more advanced souls take no interest in your topics. As you advance, your issues become more relevant to those ahead of you in advancement. I also find ‘talking down’ to those less advanced counterproductive for both you and them. I know it takes more effort to phrase things in a way that the ‘they’ can understand. As you seem to be seeking an audience of this type, this is a skill that would be of value.
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