Beware before you step on the unknown Realms

[thecommoner]

This post is not to scare anyone. Nor is my intention to declare that I know more. I am a psychic, Vedic astrologer, and a spiritual counselor from India. I have had all my past life readings from the celestial world . I have been observing for the past 3 decades of my practice , the misfortune in the lives of those who try to decipher the readings , that was kept as secret and concealed from the mortal bodies for obvious reasons. The equilibrium of this laboratory called Earth is bound by Karmic philosophy, and any short cuts to override the Karma will be thwarted by the Masters ( Or By the very system). When You apply breaks on your Car either the tires or the ground gets damaged. It cannot be otherwise. Being aware of this universal principle would do good both for the reader as well as for the read. Good luck!!

[wstein]

This may be a warning about here (Earth-ish), something vague about vengeful ‘Masters’.

But what does that have to do with other (unknown) realms?

Sounds like you have not followed your own advice by accessing the ‘celestial world’.

BTW, the ‘Masters’ do not all agree and they are not all powerful

[thecommoner]

Originally Posted by wstein

This may be a warning about here (Earth-ish), something vague about vengeful ‘Masters’.

But what does that have to do with other (unknown) realms?

Sounds like you have not followed your own advice by accessing the ‘celestial world’.

BTW, the ‘Masters’ do not all agree and they are not all powerful

Thank you for the response. A few clarifications.First, I had my readings not at my instance always. Secondly i do not advocate or perform short cuts.What I thought of sharing here is the power of the rule of Karma and its binding on all. If I need to help you , no one could stop me perhaps. However i should be prepared to share the piece of your Karma that I am trying to alter.

As for the last point you made. I fully agree that no one is all powerful in a higher sense .

[wstein]

Originally Posted by thecommoner

I do not advocate or perform short cuts.

Noted.

Originally Posted by thecommoner

What I thought of sharing here is the power of the rule of Karma and its binding on all.

Perhaps a more to the point title next time, you might still be able to change it??

I believe that karma is always optional. Further through spiritual growth, one ‘out-grows’ the need for it.

Originally Posted by thecommoner

If I need to help you , no one could stop me perhaps. However i should be prepared to share the piece of your Karma that I am trying to alter.

This suggests that you see karma as a collective rather than personal thing. Somehow you can ‘take’ may karma and get me ‘out’ of it??

Have you suggested that the ‘Masters’ ‘get’ karma by ‘overriding’ our attempts to bypass it?
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Your statements seem to be bound within the confines of physical reality. As we are primarily spiritual beings, how much would this affect us anyway? What might be a in your view a ‘short cut’ (in this realm), might be perfectly acceptable elsewhere?

Have you considered that I might be a master and am free to do as I please?

[thecommoner]

1-We are talking about the evolving spirits and not about the evolved ones. The latter souls could override the Karma. However completely evolved souls do not require earthly experience and as such is outside the purview of this post.( Hope You agree!)

2-The point that you brought in " The collective Vs Personal Karma " is interesting. I am still puzzled by the phenomenon.( The reaction(?) of Karma that one attempts to alter is based on personal observation and experience and I need to find a logical frame work for it! ). However I feel once I interfere in anyone's Karma that might become part of my Karma .)

3-And the last point.. being a master I could short cut and get away being acceptable.... is irrelevant for the ordinary souls.( refer point.1)

[Dimitri]

@thecommoner Why is it so hard to write a full-length post without clarifying anything? Why is the first post more like a blurb than an actual explanation of the thread title? Why must one have to play these games of ask and answer in order to actually understand what the original poster meant?

[wstein]

Originally Posted by thecommoner

1-We are talking about the evolving spirits and not about the evolved ones. The latter souls could override the Karma. However completely evolved souls do not require earthly experience and as such is outside the purview of this post.( Hope You agree!)

Hey it’s your topic, make it what you want. It would help if you include this sort of context in the original post. Many here are not as primitive as you assume. As you seem to be limiting this topic to just starting evolving souls, I will stop asking about the bigger scope.

Originally Posted by thecommoner

3-And the last point.. being a master I could short cut and get away being acceptable.... is irrelevant for the ordinary souls.( refer point.1)

It’s a (self) limiting approach to assume that more advanced souls take no interest in your topics. As you advance, your issues become more relevant to those ahead of you in advancement. I also find ‘talking down’ to those less advanced counterproductive for both you and them. I know it takes more effort to phrase things in a way that the ‘they’ can understand. As you seem to be seeking an audience of this type, this is a skill that would be of value.

[thecommoner]

Originally Posted by Dimitri

@thecommoner Why is it so hard to write a full-length post without clarifying anything? Why is the first post more like a blurb than an actual explanation of the thread title? Why must one have to play these games of ask and answer in order to actually understand what the original poster meant?

That was not my intention at all . Langauage has limitations while dealing with such topics, especially when the other person is using a second language to communicate. What am I going to gain from such a "game" dear?!!

Many a time we ourselves discover new meanings and ways of explanations to our own experiences through discussion. I firmly believe that , it is the very purpose of logical unbiased and open discussions .

[MissKriss]

just jumping into this conversation without knowing what the original topic was - but something interesting to me was seeing the comparison of jyotish with ayurveda, and how they both relate to the elements - well in ayurveda i am missing pitta and kapha elements, so i have to adjust my habits and diet to increase those doshas/elements - well in jyotish i thought it would be less intimidating to look at it that way as well - my jyotish chart also shows i am not channelling pitta and kapha energies so well, so why not just try increasing those energies and getting more in tune with those elements and planets that rule those systems..

sometimes we can have difficulties in our life because we shoot ourself in the foot, and that can be called "bad karma" but it's really just "bad habits" not going with the flow - i have this problem but i'm tackeling it - and there really isn't any room for feelings fear or guilt in that -

[thecommoner]

@MissKriss You are most welcome! In fact in this part of the land the traditional ancient treatment in Ayurveda involved a closer examination of the chart of the patient concerned, before administring any (organic) medicine. You might be aware that one's chart gives a clear indication of his/her type ( Vaatha, Piththa or Kapha) and also the weak part(s) of the system. However Today even in Ayurveda , the commercial minded professionals forget about the basic systems and ethics .( Part of our changing values and culture).

. One another reason could be our seudo scientific temper that fails to inquire about the truth before joining the Mainstream.

[MissKriss]

yea i'm loving ayurveda - honestly they know all of my chronic problems! I spoke with a woman at East West Bookstore in Mountain View, CA - her name is Madhavi Rathod (i hope i didn't write this already) but she did my chart and told me i am Vata - i had already read my charts on free jyotish sites - but she really helped me interpret it more - now i have some free software and i can see the planets in a bhava chalit chart and i just love it! they got so many things about my personality!

for example my moon is 3.5 degrees away from saturn and in my 4th house in the Bhava Chalit chart - so even though most of teh sites said for me not to use pearl since my ascendent is on the cusp (2 minute debate) between Taurus or Gemini, since she noticed this about my moon she said ok pearl remedy - well she also did that since i was born a day after teh full moon - but so many other awesome details about reading this chart

i mean i thought i had bad circulation in one of my legs, now i know it is the beginning of sciatica (common vata problem) and i have specific yoga poses for vata that help so much with my leg! even my chronic cough was from being too dry - not from any problem with phlegm like i thought ! i'm just amazed- and so happy- because modern medicine has only made me worse, yet ayurveda is healing everyhitng and i've only been doing this for about 3 months -

even my chronic fatigue is leaving - i'm so happy about finding this - i have seen books on ayurveda at the bookstore before but i never dove into it - i also never realized that astrology was sort of handed over to india from egypt and greece during the hellenic age - yet india has preserved it better than anyone else in the world - so amazing to have a system like this -

i just started learning how to read charts a couple months ago - i used to just listen to what the sites interpreted my chart as - but i have been curiuos about jyotish for 10 years, and when i went to hear Madhavi talk - and mix it with ayurveda - i just thought eureka! this is totally my thing haha - doesn't feel so "airy fairy" anymore

for anyone who thinks the "planets" or celestial bodies dont effect them - remember what percentage of water is in your body, and then look what just the moon does to the ocean and the tides lol! so this really is scientific

so cool!

[MissKriss]

i have to admit i wonder if it really was from egypt and greece or if it "started" in india - or what - some people are saying calling it "vedic astrology" is wrong since it isn't mentioned in the vedas and then other people say the gemstones are mentioned in the vedas and all i know is i haven't read all of the vedas and i dont know sanskrit so! who knows! lol - but i still love learning about this stuff

[MissKriss]

"Did you know" from Astrology, Vedic Astrology, Indian Astrology, Free Astrology, Free Horoscope

U.S. President Barak Obama carries a small Hanuman statue in his pocket as one of his 'lucky charms'. He also carries a bracelet belonging to a soldier deployed in Iraq, a gambler's chit and a Madonna and child pendant.

In Obama's birth chart, Saturn is in Capricorn which is his Ascendant. Saturn is in 'good dignity' as Saturn rules the sign he sits in within Obama's chart plus the ruler of someone's Ascendant is always a good planet for that person. Saturn is giving Obama great support.

Saturn in Capricorn makes a person deeply focused, hard working, successful in working with schedules and budgets and democratic. Less favorably this position can make a person to be unscrupulous, too perfect and shrewd.

Saturn, the planet of democracy, has just recently transited into Libra which is Obama's house of Career.

they say Hanuman's bday is the 24th of december and he helps you overcome any obstacles with Saturn