What is the most powerful being that exists on the astral plane? (Blog)

[Erin Pavlina]

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What is the most powerful being that exists on the astral plane?

[Midnite]

I really want to go there with this thread. Besides the Creator of this Universe, I am going to throw down Lucifer (The Archangel) as being one of the serious contenders if not the most powerful. There is a means to my madness in suggesting this, however it is extremely highly controversial.

[wstein]

Doesn’t that depend on what you mean by ‘exist’? As far as I know, humans, angels, arch angels, demons, Lucifer, and Farmer (creator of this universe) are only visitors. Surely there must be other un-manifest beings (no physical or energetic form) of extreme power that cannot ‘appear’ but could easily wipe out the astral planes (or unexist them); this includes many over-souls. Additionally, for those that believe God is a being, God it is everywhere.

Note: since the energy is so dense here, visiting humans that take energy (or source it) are among the more powerful on the astral places where the energy is far less dense. That is why most of the beings on the lower planes are of no real danger to wandering humans in energetic form.

[Midnite]

I have come to know that over-arching un-manifest existence as Grandfather Source (The Creator of Creators). In just the same way that our Oversouls are utilizing Life experience itself as a form of continual growing via multiple dimensions of reincarnating souls, Grandfather Source is using existence itself via billions of Creators to maintain an ultra-extreme high.

When you start going that high there is nothing to 'meet' or somehow distinguish a personalized form to interact with. However when you fall back 'down' to a Creator level, there are many people who do believe God has a higher consciousness (mind) overlooking the Universe (body), who has the ability to play his own game so to speak. In this way a distinguishable form may possibly be created in order to interact with its inhabitants. However in saying this, the biggest question to ask is 'why'? Why even bother. 100% pure ecstasy highs are easily continued without the need to look down.

[thecommoner]

I am reminded of the above saying ( My Caption) about this topic.. No one on this earthly plane could say with certainty what exactly the astral realms hold. However the opinion of Erin that there could be high powered negative souls is rather difficult to digest. The power in the higher realms comes from the energy it derives from the central cosmic source and I firmly believe that no negative force could derive unwieldy power from it. As per the known research material and celestial communication ,the lower realms in the astral plane are filled with souls carrying loads of negative Karmic Bondage. Of course they could maul the virtuous souls with or without bodies out of jealousy and ignorance once some one reach them like in the case of an innocent in a jail along with other criminals. But the common logic would not allow any such "powerful" evil to wander at their will and make prey of any one he/she likes ( Or dislikes). Any thoughts Erin?

[Erin Pavlina]

I've seen em. I've dealt with them. They're there.

[cmany]

I can say this...I had an experience with something truly dark and evil...and I do believe that I was in my astral form...I don't talk about it as it was deeply unnerving...just a sense of pure and old evil...

I refused to give in to fear - nor would I give in to it...and it took my guardian/guide to get me away from it...so there are things that exist that are truly evil and are very powerful in their own right...

Christine

[Weena]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

I've seen em. I've dealt with them. They're there.

How did this happen Erin? I always guessed that evil spirits are attracted by one type of people...and you are not the type I talk about.

I'm genuinely interested by the way. I thought low vibrating people would attract low vibrating souls and high vibrating people would attract guides, angels and the like. How would less nice entities get in your way when you travel from "a good place"?

[Erin Pavlina]

When I first started projecting I was only 15. Stuff on the astral plane scared the bejeesus out of me. It wasn't until I learned to raise my vibration taht I got away from them.

Also, however, sometimes the dark entities are attracted to the light. We're tastier. It's not an indication of how good or bad we are, just how tasty and attractive we are to lower vibrational entities.

[Weena]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

When I first started projecting I was only 15. Stuff on the astral plane scared the bejeesus out of me. It wasn't until I learned to raise my vibration taht I got away from them.

Also, however, sometimes the dark entities are attracted to the light. We're tastier. It's not an indication of how good or bad we are, just how tasty and attractive we are to lower vibrational entities.

Thank you for answering! Don't get me wrong, I don't think in term or good or bad people, but rather the vibration they emit. For example, it makes sense you saw them more when you were younger. I'm sure you did not have a "bad" vibe at that age, but maybe they day-to-day "fears" of a teen girl (even small ones such as seeing her body change, growing into adulthood, or perhaps family things going on, or friends stories getting stuck in her mind...examples of the like) could perhaps translate in a more easily targeted astral traveler for those entities then?

Perhaps even "not knowing" what you want to get out of the travel, also?... If you go with the firm intention to meet your guardian angel, or guides, or flying off to the Records, and go from a peaceful place...I really hopes it gets one there.

[Lukas]

When you become more conscious you become more aware of the light and the dark. It's about integrating them and make a choice on what you prefer.

The trick is to treat the light and the dark as equal choices, otherwise you will never get to a neutral point about it and have in some form fear. You typically have also dark lifetimes, which will come up in some way or the other on your transformational path. They are doing a great service to everyone though.

[elucidate]

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[ButterflyWoman]

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