Dreaming about having a lucid dream

[SofiaS]

Im still very new about this whole lucid dreaming business and I must admit I have left it aside a lot because of school, but recently I had a wierd dream that gave me this question: Is it possible to dream about having a lucid dream?
I think its a though question since the base of a lucid dream is the consciousness, at least the way I see it.
So is it possible to have a dream in which you are being conscious inside a dream? (a dream inside the dream)
The reason of why I dont believe my dream was a lucid dream is because for some reason it didn't feel like the person in it was me at a 100%, it was more like an image of me doing what I would expect from myself to do in such a situation (lucid dreaming), BUT still I was conscious.
And besides that, I didn't have enough ''power'' to change the scene or the people around me, actually I don't think it ever ocurred to me to do so.

So, what is your opinion on this topic guys? Did I manage to get you as confused as I am?

[wstein]

Originally Posted by SofiaS

Im still very new about this whole lucid dreaming business and I must admit I have left it aside a lot because of school, but recently I had a wierd dream that gave me this question: Is it possible to dream about having a lucid dream?

Yes, you can. It is not uncommon for someone who is trying ‘too’ hard to have a lucid dream but not succeeding.
This can be very confusing for those who are not experienced at classifying dream types.

Originally Posted by SofiaS

I think its a though question since the base of a lucid dream is the consciousness, at least the way I see it.

The normal ‘base’ dream is the unconscious. In a ‘normal’ dream that’s all there is. Lucid dreaming adds back the conscious in addition. Technically it’s not a lucid dream unless you are also conscious that part of you is dreaming.

Originally Posted by SofiaS

So is it possible to have a dream in which you are being conscious inside a dream? (a dream inside the dream)
The reason of why I don’t believe my dream was a lucid dream is because for some reason it didn't feel like the person in it was me at a 100%, it was more like an image of me doing what I would expect from myself to do in such a situation (lucid dreaming), BUT still I was conscious.

I call a dream were you are conscious but not aware that you are dreaming a ‘conscious dream’. I am not aware of any other term for this. A note here, it is not always so easy to distinguish a conscious dream from a vision (visions are not dreams). As you suggest, inferring you were conscious because you did what you expect does not indicate one way or the other if it was a lucid dream.

Originally Posted by SofiaS

And besides that, I didn't have enough ''power'' to change the scene or the people around me, actually I don't think it ever occurred to me to do so.

Having the power to alter dreams is but one of many advanced lucid dreaming skills. Failure to perform advanced skills in no way demotes a lucid dream to something lesser.

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Advanced notes:
-In a dream you can be in the action or watching the action.
-In a lucid dream you can be conscious (and aware it’s a dream) as either the participant or the watcher.

Very advanced notes:
-It’s possible to have dual separate consciousness as both the participant AND the watcher at the same time. In this configuration typically only the watcher becomes lucid (aware that you are dreaming).
-Once you develop the lucid watcher, it’s possible to invoke the watcher while awake. Technically its not a ‘lucid’ watcher as you are not dreaming.

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[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by SofiaS

Im still very new about this whole lucid dreaming business and I must admit I have left it aside a lot because of school, but recently I had a wierd dream that gave me this question: Is it possible to dream about having a lucid dream?

I think its a though question since the base of a lucid dream is the consciousness, at least the way I see it.
So is it possible to have a dream in which you are being conscious inside a dream? (a dream inside the dream)
The reason of why I dont believe my dream was a lucid dream is because for some reason it didn't feel like the person in it was me at a 100%, it was more like an image of me doing what I would expect from myself to do in such a situation (lucid dreaming), BUT still I was conscious.
And besides that, I didn't have enough ''power'' to change the scene or the people around me, actually I don't think it ever ocurred to me to do so.

So, what is your opinion on this topic guys? Did I manage to get you as confused as I am?

Well, it all really depends how you want to define your labels, but in my personal opinion, no, it is not possible to dream that you are lucid (the implication being that you are not really lucid). A lucid dream is simply a dream where you are conscious of the fact that you are dreaming.

That is all.

If you are having a dream, and you come to the correct conclusion that you are, in fact, dreaming, you have achieved lucidity to some degree or another.

Now, there is certainly a range of lucidity. So a low level lucid dream would be one where you are aware that you are dreaming, but your conscious critical faculties are still somewhat diminished, with little or no control over the dream environment. A medium lucid dream would be one in which your consciousness was more or less equal to your waking state, with some degree of control over the dream environment. A high lucid dream would be one in which you felt that you were even more conscious than you are in day to day life and you possess excellent control over the dream scape environment.

These are merely rough boundaries or parameters for labeling the quality of lucidity. It is truly a fascinating state of consciousness.

[Sypyres]

I'ved had Lucid dreams where I would get bored in the middle of it and think, mmmm what if I slept here, would I be dreaming that I'm dreaming? Am I dreaming that I'm dreaming now? Is this a dream within a dream? How far could I go? It would suk if couldn't wake up". Ok let me see.
(For what seems seconds later)
Did I fall asleep? Is this the same dream. Did it work? Why am I so heavy? I can no longer fly anymore. Damn, this suks. What the hell am I going to ....
then my alarm goes off and I have to get up for work. I lay there thinking how close I always get to the next step and thinking I will continue later tonight.
The converstation you read is me talking to myself when in Lucid. I think it helps. 1. That's how I make sure I'm in Lucid by asking myself. 2. There really ain't no 1 else to talk to. 3. I see others but everyone else is doing their thing.
So, to answer your question..I'm not sure if I did do it cause it was hard to tell.

[Rebel Seven]

It is possible to dream about lucid dreaming without becoming lucid, but it is very rare and complicated.

Essentially you have to be in a dream, fall asleep into another dream, become lucid in that dream, but believe that the first dream is the real waking world.

You behave and work towards the goals of your higher 'dream self' instead of your true waking self.

Like I said this is rare, but it is possible.

Otherwise I agree with Anagogy. It was a low level lucid. It seems you just didn't take the time to slow down, ground yourself in the dream, and exercise your mind into consciousness.