|02-25-2011, 08:30 AM||#1 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2010
Charging for spiritual work
For the sake of ease, i just called it spiritual work.
I read a comment on your FB about charging money for medium work or psychic work etc. I have a question about that because im not sure what to do and im sure many others are the same.
See i know of a healer who says that charging for healing shouldnt be done because the healing comes from Creator, and is not ours to charge for. She showed me many examples where healers were getting sick and dying because they charge for healings etc. To me it sounds like fear teaching, but it still feels sort of correct in a way to me in a way.
My question relates more to psychic work however. Is it truley ok to charge for this work? I would eventually love to make my way doing this sort of thing, but being told that you can get sick and die because of it isn't a very welcoming future lol. If it is Ok, how much is it ok to charge for? what needs to be taken into account?
Last edited by HiImJeremy; 02-25-2011 at 08:36 AM.
|02-25-2011, 10:44 AM||#2 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2008
I know you asked Erin this question but I just wanted to offer a different point of view to the one you were given by that healer.
You, as a human being only have a finite amount of time here on planet earth. You need to eat, and clothe yourself, and put a roof over your head (and hopefully more than that.)
For that reason, it's OK to charge for your time. You're not charging for the energy that comes through you from Source or God. You're charging for the fact that you're spending your time and effort facilitating that healing coming through for another human being. It doesn't come for free, for you. You're spending resources you don't get back.
People don't get sick charging for healing. What an awful scare tactic. I've done healings for three years now and nothing but good has come out of it.
As for healers getting sick, in my experience, the only type of healing that can drain your energy is healing that doesn't come directly from source (ie. healings done with spirit guides and other astral beings.) Ideally, you want to work with source or from another divine being like an archangel or an ascended master, not an astral being. Otherwise it can get very tiring for both healer and client.
Apart from that, in my opinion, your healer is totally wrong about this matter.
|02-25-2011, 11:21 AM||#3 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Even art and music come from source but just like healing it takes time to develop skill, and you have every right to charge for your skill.
You seem to be meeting a lot of spiritual workers with dis-empowering advice.
|02-25-2011, 11:54 AM||#4 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2010
Thanks so much for your post. I'm very thankful to see another opinion and point of view. This lady comes from a very traditional shamanic background and she has some very definite beliefs and opinions about healing, and because i love her work, it really frightened me to hear that even charging for healing was going to slowly kill me. In most cases though you find that healers like that are charging huge amounts of money for healing.
But already i have had you and another tell me that is completely ludicrous hahaha.
I had not considered charging for the time spent. Im not quite sure about that aspect. We often say time doesn't exist and that it is an illusion. Yet we still live by it.
Down the track i would love to do this work to make a living and i would like to make sure i'm not going to die for doing it to live, thank you very much lol.
Your opinion has soothed me.
Hi, yes good point. By the time it comes for me to go more professional, i hope to have spent much time developing the skill, whether it be through healing or psychic ability ( which is my goal right now)
And to be honest it is only that teacher who is disempowering haha. I'm very lucky though because she's making me aware of things and how to improve. For example, how not to force dis-empowering beliefs on others. She's really just teaching me what not to be, in a small sense.
Thanks for your opinions guys. I'd love to hear others.
|02-25-2011, 01:09 PM||#5 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2008
If you haven't checked it out already, try Steve's being psychic podcast in that Erin speaks about charging for psychic work as well as charging a high amount for it.
I like what she said the higher charge also attracts clients who are very serious about the session and who want a lot of value from it, if you do it for free I think people will come just for kicks.
|02-25-2011, 01:18 PM||#6 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: In My Heart..
It's funny, I was helping out with healing work at a mind body and soul festival In a near by town and as being a member of a healing body that has connections with a particular charity we ask only for donations for the healing. It's not compulsory. We had a steady stream of people during the day.
3 stalls down from us was a healer that charged £25 per 15 minute session. And he was stacked out with people.. lol.
It seems at times the more you charge the better they think you are
I don't disagree with making a good living from healing or anything else that falls Into the spiritual bracket.
I had a psychic operation from a fellow healer on my knee a few years ago that was healed within 5 minutes.
How much Is being pain free worth to anyone?
|02-25-2011, 01:54 PM||#7 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2010
Awsome guys, this is great.
@NICE -Honestly it really isn't about money to me. I am genuinly wanting to help people with whatever i can train myself to do. But if this is truly something i want to do with the rest of my life and i enjoy it, then i would love to be supported through it in some way. And in these times, supporting yourself comes through financial currency. Even if that isn;t the best way, that is the way things are now.
Often we hear spiritual talk of value exchange. I like this idea. Exchanging value for value.
What i wish to do is keep it affordable. Right now though even, i want to develop substantially before i even charge. I like the idea of donation while im practising. This way there is no pressure, i can do what i wish and have no expectation. In fact i really dont want to be seen as someone who wants to do this work for money. If i could live comfortably doing what i love without money i would do it. This could even happen eventually.
My teacher charges $50 for a reading or healing for half an hour and she is book everyday because her reputation is outstanding. That seems resonable to me and people are leaving with so much clarity and empowerment. I want to empower people! What a gift to the individual. How beautiful is it to give to people!
I think you guys are right though. You must be open to recieving as well. I am so excited! bring it all on.
Hey thanks for the suggestion. Funny, i have actually listened to that pod cast three times! and i have watched the youtube video of erin and steve. I loved them. I think i may need to listen again because i may need a deeper understanding in this area.
How lovely it is to be empowered for working with toward your divine purpose! here here!
|02-25-2011, 02:19 PM||#8 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV
You already got some great responses. I'll add a couple of thoughts.
If I didn't charge for my time and energy and ability I would have a desk job somewhere, 40 hours per week, not doing what I came here to do, just to put food on the table. how would that serve humanity?
God understands that you need to eat and have shelter. And he has given you an amazing ability that you can use to help people. They then can return value to you. You can accept payment however you want. I have a woman making me a quilt right now in exchange for a reading. I've also done readings in exchange for new grass in my backyard.
Plus you always have the option of providing services free of charge occasionally. i have helped suicidal people for free, and I've worked with the police dept helping them for free.
But until food and shelter are free, I must earn a living, and right now that is by charging for my services.
Erin Pavlina, Intuitive Counselor
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|02-25-2011, 02:33 PM||#9 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: In My Heart..
You hit the nail on the head mate.
The key Is your Intentions. You want to help people like I do. I have dedicated so much of myself In order to help people I am honoured to do so.
So firstly It's about the giving part (Isn't It). I know many people that are In the spiritual / psychic game to firstly earn money and the giving aspect Is secondary.
When ever I get money It seems to go In one hand and out the other lol.
That's the way It goes..
So good on you.
|02-25-2011, 03:12 PM||#10 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2010
Thank you NICE
I notice many healers too are...money first, then provide second. What a lesosn to learn! Thank you, you're posts were very soothing and helpful.
Erin - Thanks so much for your view, im so glad for the forum because it provides so many other points of view i havent looked at. So thank you dearly.
I would like to contact you further privatley through email about certain exchanges you may do.
Thank you guys so much for all your views and support. It's very helpful, completely brushed off that other view point. ahaha
|02-27-2011, 11:27 AM||#11 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: France -> Germany -> France -> Brazil
I agree with the others. When you spend huge amounts of time, energy and money learning and practicing, why can you not charge for your efforts? It's just like any other professional who invested a lot in their education and are now devoting their time to serve others.
The idea that some activities or talents come from Source (and others not) is misleading. Everything comes from Source, including your toilet. Does it mean the plumber should not charge any money for repairing it? Or that farmers should give what they produce away for free because it comes from Mother Nature?
Everything is spiritual, peeing is spiritual, baking bread is spiritual, fixing teeth is spiritual. Money is spiritual, too. It's just an energy that we exchange at the physical level, just like love. I find the separation between "spiritual things" (like spiritual healing) and "not-spiritual things" (like money) to create ... separation.
On a more practical note, I have found that when someone has to pay for a session, they tend to be more motivated and to do their homework more seriously and to value the work more. And then for some reason they also get better results. That's not the reason I charge for my work, but it's worth mentioning.
|03-03-2011, 09:45 AM||#13 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
I agree with everyone here, it takes time to develop your skills/receptiveness and the lifestyle to support your abilities... financial support helps
I know a Malaysian healer who taught Qi Gong (Chi Kung) for a small fee, lets say about $5 a lesson. He found that people didn't stick with their training and finish what he had to teach them.
So he put his prices up.
His students became much more attentive, everyone finished their training and he attracted many more students. People tend to place value on things that don't come easy or cheaply... Incidentally he as students around the world now and he's a healthy guy
|03-03-2011, 11:13 AM||#14 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC
Steve wrote an article a few years ago, Lightworker Syndrome that really opened my eyes, and helped turn my thinking around about charging for services. Very insightful.
There are people everywhere who are slowly dying, and most of them are not energy workers or clairvoyant, and have never, in their whole lives, charged anyone for anything. Do what works for your life - maybe you are meant to travel as an ascetic, giving your services away; maybe you are meant to become rich & well-known for your work. No one else can determine that for you, this is your life! Follow your own heart, not the heart of anyone else, not even the heart of a shaman.
|03-05-2011, 03:15 AM||#15 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oblong, Illinois
a long time ago I worked in the treatment center which specialized in substance abuse and eating disorders. We frequently had a need for therapists. In the local recovery community there was a lady who was recovering and who had a beautiful spirit that glowed so brightly that anyone who cared to look could see it. She was intelligent and connected easily with nearly everyone including those who were still in the throes of their addiction or psychological disorder.
My supervisor asked her to work for our hospital. The lady declined saying, I don't want to sell my recovery. She was doing a tremendous amount of volunteer work and doing peer counseling with people who were very similar to the population we treated in our hospital.
In reality she was doing the same work for free that we were asking to hire her to do for us in the hospital. It was a personal boundary for her. She and her husband, both people in recovery from an addictive disorder were active in the recovery community. They both worked at jobs that paid their bills but left little for extras.
At time, I couldn't understand how she would turn down a job which paid a multiple of her current salaries doing what she loved to do, helping others. I have thought a great deal about her and have concluded her passion was in helping others for the joy of helping others. Taking money for her work would have taken the joy from her and she was spiritually aware enough to realize what was right for her.
I see in my memories of her something different than light worker syndrome. I see a woman who clearly understands what the right path is or was for her.
I enjoy helping people and I'm willing to do it for free if there is a reasonable chance that my attempts to help will actually be useful. I am also willing to charge for my services.
The post is getting a little long, and the last thing I will say is I learned some things from this lady who insisted on giving help without financial reward.
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