The Afterlife Experience for Those Who Suicide (Blog)

[Erin Pavlina]

Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Erin Pavlina's blog:

The Afterlife Experience for Those Who Suicide

[Andrew Gubb]

’ve connected with at least 3 suiciders that I can recall who basically said, “Welp, that life sucked. No big. Ready to move on and try something else.” They really take it in stride.

I liked that bit. It's funny that there are so few people out there who admit that suicide is a valid option. Even among spiritual type people it seems to be taboo. Thanks for the breath of fresh air.

Personally, when I was considering suicide I had a very powerful sense that it wasn't for me, that I had something to do in this life and even that I'd understand the meaning of the pain in time. (More or less conscious understandings). But I guess there must be other sorts of lives too - where things screw up and maybe the best way to improve on things is a clean slate.

[supertom]

Thank you for writing this. It is still such a taboo subject even this circle, I think this is going to help a lot of people past, present and future.

Just beautiful.

[marinik]

Thanks Erin. After I was diagnosed with cancer I decided not to go through the process of chemo and radiation. I told my family that I would live life to the fullest as long as the pain was durable and when it would be too much I would exit this stage called life. I have been cancer free for almost 5 years now but the fact that there is a way out meant the world to me.

I was worried only about the effect my act would have on my children. But I think they would have understood.

Thank you again for this article.

Love m

[JSB]

If we fail to learn what we came to learn because we "check out early", won't we just end up coming back to do it all over in slightlty different circumstances?

If we couldn't endure it the first time, what chance is there that we will have the resources to make it through the next time around?

I have this horrifying idea of ten thousand grueling lifetimes, each ending before "completion", like a broken record [to reference an obsolete technology] skipping at the same spot for half a million years.

Sounds like Hell to me, but I may be way off on my assessment.

[Erin Pavlina]

If we fail to learn what we wanted to learn nd check out early, we have the choice of coming back to try again. Teh circumstances will be different and it may be easier or harder.

You are not required to endure lifetime after lifetime trying to learn the same things, if you don't want to.

In the end, life is about experiences, not lessons. We are here to experience, and we tend to learn from those experiences.

[Angela]

I've had several TIME Techniques clients who are presented with past life suicide as the root cause of stored-up negative emotion in this life.

Fortunately, now that we've got the technology, one doesn't have to actually die and reincarnate to give one's self the additional perspective necessary to get the learnings that allow the problem to disappear easily and effortlessly.

[ChrisG]

I had a bout of a few months recently where I was considering suicide. I had even thought about the method. As I ran the scenes through my head, I could only imagine that I'd regret what I'd done. I wouldn't have run away from my problems even after killing myself.

If you get to a point where playing the game is simply too painful, you can choose to stop playing.

I also read from that that, in choosing our lives, we might bite off more than we can chew. That'd be interesting if it was true because I'm like that a lot with challenges within life- I'll choose to do something and then it turns out a bit too much of a stretch. Even something like playing a video game on a very high level.

[JSB]

Thanks for clarifying.

I've certainly had points in my life where I considered ending it. The thought of an existence where one is forced to suffer even more for not being able to tolerate suffering is truly sickening.

Seeing life as an "experience" rather than a task paradoxically makes me want to stick it out to the end even more, maybe because that makes it seem like there's potentially something to get from both good and bad experiences, and that, despite appearances to the contrary sometimes, life is not just a creatively sadistic no-win "test". (Kobayashi Maru anyone?)

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

If we fail to learn what we wanted to learn nd check out early, we have the choice of coming back to try again. Teh circumstances will be different and it may be easier or harder.

You are not required to endure lifetime after lifetime trying to learn the same things, if you don't want to.

In the end, life is about experiences, not lessons. We are here to experience, and we tend to learn from those experiences.

[Midnite]

I kind of agree and disagree with the abovementioned points.

As somebody who has experienced very bad depression, on many occasions I even tried to will myself to death. I always however backtracked and decided to live on.

I don't think it is OK to suicide. I also don't believe life is just like a game. I spent a lot of my childhood on online games. When our characters died, we just started again, and went back at it. In real life there are personal as well as emotional ramifications upon not only yourself, but those people around who spent their entire lives nurturing you and ensuring your success in this big bad world. Don't you ever believe, not for a single second, that it's just ok to quit and leave, and decide "hey it's not for me'. Though you may believe in spirits, and the afterlife, and God and life force, your family members and people around you may not.

The anger, sadness and hatred they place on themselves drag them down for years. Some people never truly get over it.
You will very likely be placed within a similar set of circumstances the next life round, the only difference being the sheer amount of bad karma you caused your loved ones to suffer, will now be hanging over your head.

Destiny is like God's plan for us all. After that incomprehensible fact, every time somebody suicides, it's like they are saying "No God, life isn't worth it". I don't know about you, but if I was God, I would take it as a personal insult.

[Erin Pavlina]

You are God.

[supertom]

Originally Posted by Midnite

I kind of agree and disagree with the abovementioned points.

As somebody who has experienced very bad depression, on many occasions I even tried to will myself to death. I always however backtracked and decided to live on.

I don't think it is OK to suicide. I also don't believe life is just like a game. I spent a lot of my childhood on online games. When our characters died, we just started again, and went back at it. In real life there are personal as well as emotional ramifications upon not only yourself, but those people around who spent their entire lives nurturing you and ensuring your success in this big bad world. Don't you ever believe, not for a single second, that it's just ok to quit and leave, and decide "hey it's not for me'. Though you may believe in spirits, and the afterlife, and God and life force, your family members and people around you may not.

The anger, sadness and hatred they place on themselves drag them down for years. Some people never truly get over it.
You will very likely be placed within a similar set of circumstances the next life round, the only difference being the sheer amount of bad karma you caused your loved ones to suffer, will now be hanging over your head.

Destiny is like God's plan for us all. After that incomprehensible fact, every time somebody suicides, it's like they are saying "No God, life isn't worth it". I don't know about you, but if I was God, I would take it as a personal insult.

Actually i remember in games i used to suicide so i could restart with my health back and some times i would do it just for kicks.