|02-17-2011, 02:25 PM||#2 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2009
The definitions vary according the the sect.
In general the causal place is the level from which this manifested world arose so from the view point of physics, this would be the place of dark matter and the place of anti-matter.
There could be something higher than the causal plane but that reality would be non-perceptible to anything on this side of the existential divide. Indian (India) books list a spiritual world which is higher than the causal plane. It is sometimes called brahman, parambrahman, akshara dhama, vaikuntha and shivaloka.
The etheric plane is the plane which the subtle body assumes as soon as the physical body dies. In other words, it might be said to be the ghost world. This etheric plane is part of the astral world, which really means that the etheric is a state that the astral body assumes as soon as the physical body dies.
The astral planes are many and therefore the astral body might change in vibration in order to synchronize in a particular dimension.
Think of the status of the physical body when it under the influence of alcohol and when it is free of that influence. In both cases it is the same body but the state of mind and the operation of the body varies in each state. Similarly, the same astral body might be experienced differently according to the astral level it is synchronized into.
Try to do a search for the Theosophical Society because they are the ones who brought the term etheric body in common usage.
|02-18-2011, 10:02 AM||#4 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2009
Etheric projection and astral projection are really one and the same thing, when the word etheric means the astral body in a certain phase or in a certain vibrational level.
When etheric means the body which is experienced just after death of an old physical body, that form cannot be projected until the physical body becomes old and diseased and terribly sick, like in the case when people have tuberculosis, terminal cancer, terminal AIDs and other terrible sicknesses which cause the astral body to be lacking in energy by virtue of its affiliation with a diseased physical one.
When that happens, the person experiences a rundown astral body which hardly has any wholesome energy and so when that body is projected from the dead physical one, it is experienced as a different sort of astral form, as an etheric body with dark energy and with unwholesome sickly energy which takes that person to lower astral planes where devilish entities exist.
The causal body is not a body in the physical or astral sense. It is just a place where there is compresses psychic energy. It is just a cove and it is not manifested as a separate form like the astral body. It is not projected but from that energy the astral body forms and from the astral body, these physical bodies are created. The causal body is more like an idea in a person’s head. When the idea is first put on paper say like when an architect draws the plan of a building, that is like the astral body. And then when the construction of the building is produced, then that is like the physical body. And when the building gets old and begins to fall apart and then is demolished, that demolished form when the building disintegrates is like the etheric body which is experiences by aged diseased persons who pass away.
|02-19-2011, 11:06 AM||#6 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2009
Those who had mostly positive but just materialistic associations in dreams will go to similar places in the astral world after death.
Those who were in divine associations will go to those places in turn.
Sometimes a person on the basis of religious beliefs and expectations, does experience a flash of heavenly life or a flash where they perceive a divine being like Jesus Christ but for most people that does not last and their subtle body just takes the usual dream form, just as when they were living physically their attention to Christ or whatever Deity or religion was part-time only and their main interest was to promote their status in social life.
|02-20-2011, 12:52 PM||#7 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2010
I have talked many times of these bodies/planes to people.
Etheric as far as i know simply means ' not visible to the physical eye'. So really all bodies/planes are etheric planes.
From my understanding it then goes
Soo much to explain in each one i really couldnt be bothered lol. But theres the list i know of. Master Shamans will live in the Causal plane, meaning they are very high vibrational. Ascended masters dwell in the Atmic. Shamanic journeying takes place in the Buddhic as far as i'm aware too.
The last two i dont know much about. Very very high vibrational.
|02-20-2011, 07:11 PM||#8 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: earth, everywhere and nowhere
Oh my, yes to Logoic Plane.
It's been a while since I came across the term so I decided to intend myself into it just now and - yowza - lots of power there. Light power.
Sanat Kumara was the bit of consciousness who oversaw this plane at one time. I believe that changed but I haven't gotten caught up on the specifics. I'm sure if someone wanted to experience the Logoic Plane they could meditate on connection with Sanat Kumara to get there, as a focal point for the energy.
|02-20-2011, 10:02 PM||#9 (permalink)|
Join Date: Aug 2007
I was taught that etheric equals the divine realm, home to divine beings-ascended masters, archangels.
Astral is the psychic plane -ghosts, angels (as opposed to archangels), spirit guides, astral entities etc, with a great deal of variation of the frequency of their consciousness, just as much or more as there is variation on earth.
Earth plane -human life
Most helpfully explained to me by Rose Rosetree. Although there have been others who have expressed the same idea.
|03-04-2011, 11:05 AM||#10 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2011
Differences... I don't know very much from my experiences. It seems acording to description that I'm going maybe 95% of OBE to astral, near to 5% times to mental or causal(I'm not so sure that those two are different) and 1or 2 times in my life I was probably in Budhic dimension(closest fit). Maybe there is possibility to classify them according my feelings... but that looks very crude.
What if there is only one dimension and our fantasy is playing with as???
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