Can you pull people out of their bodies astrally? (Blog)

[Erin Pavlina]

Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Erin Pavlina's blog:

Can you pull people out of their bodies astrally?

[supertom]

Do the people you astral project with remember the experience the next day?

[escapeplan]

Many years ago before I became re-aware of the importance of spirituality, I attempted astral projection but with no success. Last night I tried again, and failed through meditation. I asked for help but I suspect my chakra energy (4 out of the 7 main ones) is too low. I did get to the stage of feeling tingly and light- as if an internal lifting was taking place but the limit was the inside of my skull- like I just couldn't "pop out". To be fair, I was also afraid, yet at the same time wanting very much to achieve it. This seems like a catch 22 situation although I protected myself (as per another of Erins articles) to the best of my ability.

So if anyone fancies giving me an extra tug I'll be trying again tonight between 9 and 9.30pm UK time. Failing that if anyone has any other ideas on how to let the body free me (so I can get lighter and slip through my crown- well that's how it felt!) please let me know!

In the meantime Erin, thanks for another highly insightful article.

[James81]

Originally Posted by escapeplan

Many years ago before I became re-aware of the importance of spirituality, I attempted astral projection but with no success. Last night I tried again, and failed through meditation. I asked for help but I suspect my chakra energy (4 out of the 7 main ones) is too low. I did get to the stage of feeling tingly and light- as if an internal lifting was taking place but the limit was the inside of my skull- like I just couldn't "pop out". To be fair, I was also afraid, yet at the same time wanting very much to achieve it. This seems like a catch 22 situation although I protected myself (as per another of Erins articles) to the best of my ability.

So if anyone fancies giving me an extra tug I'll be trying again tonight between 9 and 9.30pm UK time. Failing that if anyone has any other ideas on how to let the body free me (so I can get lighter and slip through my crown- well that's how it felt!) please let me know!

In the meantime Erin, thanks for another highly insightful article.

I figured you to be more of a "realist," so it really surprises me to see you make a post like this.

[escapeplan]

Originally Posted by James81

I figured you to be more of a "realist," so it really surprises me to see you make a post like this.

Well I know what you mean-but like I've said before- I may hold certain views but I can also listen and listen hard when I instinctively feel something is true.

After a lot of to and fro on Steve's forum I did not instinctively feel a lot of what I was hearing was truth (my truth)- so I went and looked elsewhere for quite a while. More importantly, my actual development had reached a grinding halt and the answers I was seeking could no longer be found there.

I had a strong feeling to re-visit Erins site (just a day or two ago) and I really feel like I am seeing through fresh eyes. It's hard to explain but there is a truth within her writings I can sense, and now I am more open to it I can see just how little I have developed spiritually. This is my new focus and astral projection is one of the top things on my list as a) I believe I can do it and b) It will change my world view in a way I can right now only believe is true.

edit: also she has said she has cookies which is a great reason to hang around

[James81]

Originally Posted by escapeplan

Well I know what you mean-but like I've said before- I may hold certain views but I can also listen and listen hard when I instinctively feel something is true.

After a lot of to and fro on Steve's forum I did not instinctively feel a lot of what I was hearing was truth (my truth)- so I went and looked elsewhere for quite a while. More importantly, my actual development had reached a grinding halt and the answers I was seeking could no longer be found there.

I had a strong feeling to re-visit Erins site (just a day or two ago) and I really feel like I am seeing through fresh eyes. It's hard to explain but there is a truth within her writings I can sense, and now I am more open to it I can see just how little I have developed spiritually. This is my new focus and astral projection is one of the top things on my list as a) I believe I can do it and b) It will change my world view in a way I can right now only believe is true.

edit: also she has said she has cookies which is a great reason to hang around

I'm glad that you've found a new focus that is helping you.

[Erin Pavlina]

One common problem among oneironauts is you get the tingling sensation and the high pitched whine and then you wait to see if you will "go" astral. You ARE astrally separated from your body and you must simply stand up. If you are really separated your astral body will stand up and your physical body will remain behind on the bed. Nothing is going to happen to you... you must happen to your body. So next time you feel the light headed, tingling sensation, you may already be separated. Just stand up.

if your physical body stands up, you did it wrong and were not separated yet.

[escapeplan]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

One common problem among oneironauts is you get the tingling sensation and the high pitched whine and then you wait to see if you will "go" astral. You ARE astrally separated from your body and you must simply stand up. If you are really separated your astral body will stand up and your physical body will remain behind on the bed. Nothing is going to happen to you... you must happen to your body. So next time you feel the light headed, tingling sensation, you may already be separated. Just stand up.

if your physical body stands up, you did it wrong and were not separated yet.

oneironauts: This is the second new word I've learnt from you in as many days!!! I have heard people hear this high pitched noice but I didn't experience this. I didn't even experience it during an episode of sleep paralysis earlier this year (that scared the hell out of me!) I'll try again tonight.

Just as a question then, am I assuming that if you are sitting you should try and stand up when you suspect you may be disengaged with your body? If you are lying down- would you just automatically float?

I also hope that when I do achieve this, that my flying is more controlled than it is during a dream!

[Erin Pavlina]

You won't automatically float. You must stand up. It will feel like you are physically standing up. you must put effort into it. You will feel like a big energetic cloud of consciousness, able to move/fly around the area. You may be in your room or you may be on another plane that doesn't look a thing like this one.

[escapeplan]

Another failed attempt! Will keep trying!!!

[escapeplan]

Has anyone got a method of astral projection that works for them every time? It's something I've always struggled with and would really appreciate some help. Thanks all!

[ericabiz]

The only time I've been able to astral project with someone else is during sex.

I discovered this quite inadvertently about 9 years ago (and surprised the heck out of myself.) Since then, I've been actively practicing it with those I love and the results have been interesting, to say the least.

[escapeplan]

ericabiz... can you please explain a bit more about this - the parts I might find helpful! Thanks

[Erin Pavlina]

Good lord Erica, how do you AP during sex?

[Pietko]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

Good lord Erica, how do you AP during sex?

I agree with Paulina, how did you do it?

I have problems to project astral, mostly because of lack in my training (relaxation, concentration, meditation are not functioning well after a day full of stirs... I need much more exercise) Anyway I found out about astral projection(or OBE, but well I'm living in former eastern block so information was nonexisting) when I was 13 years old and I was exercised autogenous training(AP) which I found in some SciFi book . Well I found that exercises have real effect on me and then, after about few months of training I had OBE (I was black sphere radiating violet blue eerie light... and 360 ° view... and no astral cord, well, I had never astral cord) It was first time and for a few years the only time. Meanwhile I found that AP is a real technique developed by Johannes Heinrich Schultz... I was and I'm a little sceptic about whole OBE (I hope not unreasonably so )so I'm trying to find wheter it is real or complete fantasy. One think I tried was to find whether I'm capable of conecting with real people through astral... I have no conclusive proof, only feelings some (but not all) other people expressed when I tried to wake them in their dreams. To induce at least Lucid Dreams in them so they would remember at least something. I was not succesfull to induce lucid dreams even ofter few hundreds of OBE. But I didn't try to feed someone with energy as you suggested. Whether this energy is real or not, I can feel something in me and if I remember I will try to push it to someone to disconect him from body.

[FoxxyRed]

I've been trying for years on and off to astral project, but I can't seem to separate. I feel the tingles, but I don't hear any sounds, and if I try to move, I move my physical body. I've tried binaural beats and guided meditation, as well as just trying to meditate. I can "activate" the tingles at any time, but still nothing. Any tips?

[Erin Pavlina]

Once you feel the tingles, try teleporting your astral body out to a location further away and go from there. Stretching out of your body can be difficult as the body wants to keep you there. No law saying you can't launch somewhere else.

[FoxxyRed]

How do I do that? I've read that controlling the astral body is about mental control in some places, like your thoughts direct your astral actions, and some people say it's just like moving your physical body. I'm confused.

By the way, thank you Erin for replying so quickly! I didn't expect a direct response from you. It was a nice surprise.

[Erin Pavlina]

It is like moving your physical body in the sense that you are not imagining yourslef moving, you must actaully move.

it's mental in that you still retain your thoughts and consciosuness so you can project yourself out somewhere else using your mind. i don't know how to describe teleporting. see yourself in your mind's eye on the roof of your house and then just go there, be there.

I was scanning the forum and saw a quesiton I could asnwer quickly.

[FoxxyRed]

Ok thank you. I'll try that tonight. Last night I was trying again, and I felt kind of a shift... Like my mind had moved almost, but I still couldn't separate. I've felt that a few times before.. I must be getting close! Haha, maybe if I can finally get separation I'll come visit you Erin! I'll be a super ninja spy.

[Erin Pavlina]

Just be careful if you come visit me. I have a tendency to expel first and ask questions later

Also ask your guides for help getting out. One time instead of going out into the world, I went inside my self. Was a totally trippy experience.

[FoxxyRed]

I will just radiate loving and peaceful energy, and you'll know it's me.

I still have trouble contacting my guides. It's like they don't want to talk to me. I think my radio tuner is broken.

[WakingLife]

Great post! The second to last sentence intrigued me:
"And you don’t want to become so enamored with astral projection that you forget to sleep and let your body and mind restore itself."

Does that mean astral projection delays the body's natural recuperation process? I've never thought of that before!

Also, you said you went inside yourself? Wow! Does that mean you could examine, say, your organs and evaluate their health etc? Or while looking at your own body is it possible to spot out any imbalances?