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Old 07-16-2010, 05:52 PM   #31 (permalink)
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This was an informative article Erin.

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"Avoiding" bad or evil entities by keeping your vibration high (or by any other means) is a way of limiting yourself and maintaining an illusion of separateness. If you're working on yourself by maintaining a perspective of being at the effect of things outside yourself that are evil and bad, you're working to keep yourself limited, separate, and at effect, rather than being 100% responsible and at cause. That's fine -- there's nothing wrong with it, and it may very well be one's best bet in a given situation. But Oneness it ain't.
Angela - I agree with what you are saying.

(I guess I can't comment on the demons part as I have no experience of demons or exorcisms.)

But in the past I have dealt with people who feel they are being haunted or victimized by negative forces. They experience a negative entity victimizing them and to them it's totally real. And things happen to them that they (and the people around them) can't explain and get they more and more terrified about it.

I went through a low patch about 7 years ago when I was involved in a Christian church that told me that I was under psychic attack from the devil because I no longer wanted to be a part of it. Having a seed like that planted in your mind is awful if you don't know your own power to experience what you want. You can begin to wonder if it's true, you spiral into panic and it's like things can get out of control.

I was taught to clear properties for other people and cast out entities to resolve these problems, but I soon realized that 9 times out of 10 it's not about a particular place, nor is it about casting out entities - almost every time it's about the person.

People who are in a lot of fear and who believe they are powerless experience negative entities. It's sort of like Erin says, like attracts like - when you're in a low vibration you attract that or you are more likely to create it for yourself, even if you don't consciously want it.

You can 'remove' the entity but without removing the receptor in the person's mind or energy (which is fear or a belief that you're at the mercy of negative forces), it doesn't make any difference to what the person experiences.

I believe it's almost always about healing and remembering your own power to choose what you experience. When people change their perspective and remember their power to refuse to engage in any way with negative entities/spirits etc, it stops.

For those who won't or can't accept their own power to choose their experiences and cast out the entity from their space, sometimes they'll accept the power of an archangel to help them and to cast out the entity. That's not ideal but it's one step better than where they were.
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Anna, yes, I think we're of like minds about all that.

My view is that just about anyone who participates in these forums, and certainly Erin (perhaps most of all), has access to the internal resources to effect the transformation of the occurrence of entities that occur as evil, rather than being limited to living at their effect.

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My view is that just about anyone who participates in these forums, and certainly Erin (perhaps most of all), has access to the internal resources to effect the transformation of the occurrence of entities that occur as evil, rather than being limited to living at their effect.
My guess is that most people who are already in such a negative state that they've opened themselves up to these influences will not be in a position to "bootstrap" it, even if have the potential ability to transform their own situation.

It may take the support of an external "higher power" before they can get to the position where they are able to transform their own perspective.
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Old 07-16-2010, 06:48 PM   #34 (permalink)
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My guess is that most people who are already in such a negative state that they've opened themselves up to these influences will not be in a position to "bootstrap" it, even if have the potential ability to transform their own situation.

It may take the support of an external "higher power" before they can get to the position where they are able to transform their own perspective.
You may be right. In this case, that would probably be people who do a google search for demons, possession, etc. because they're looking for immediate relief and are not feeling very present to their own internal resources. Even for people who are feeling quite desperate and besieged -- perhaps especially -- I think it's helpful to use language that is evaluative rather than judgemental.

I'd call it the Frankenstein Syndrome. He was a pretty lovable guy until people started judging him, calling him a monster, chasing him away with pitchforks and trying to light him on fire.
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My guess is that most people who are already in such a negative state that they've opened themselves up to these influences will not be in a position to "bootstrap" it, even if have the potential ability to transform their own situation.

It may take the support of an external "higher power" before they can get to the position where they are able to transform their own perspective.
I agree!

I wanted to share something else related to this in case it helps anyone.

In our culture we have a myth that is 'negative forces are very powerful and scary'. We love the conflict between evil vs. good because it makes for a good story and in movies they often have very scary and powerful villains.

But I believe and have found through working with people that ACTUALLY negative anything - negative entities, negative spirits, only have as much power as you give them. You have the choice. But many people don't believe they do have the choice and yes those are the people who trust in the angels and draw power from outside sources like that.

When I did the Soul Realignment course, I learned all of this too, but it was put in slightly different terms:

Souls receive energy from source.

But negative energy is not connected to source (or God, creator or whatever.) It's not connected to energies like divine love. Therefore because it has no energy source, it feeds off itself and off others by encouraging fear and powerlessness.

So to give an example, negative forces might tell you that you're powerless and this weakens your energy further. This energy of apathy can be siphoned off from you. That's how negativity exists and that's where terms like energy parasite come from. A tick might get really fat from sucking all your blood, but would you believe it if it told you it will get so big it's going to destroy your life? No way. It's getting all its energy from you!! Most of the time it's a little tick like that that's attached to people that gets bigger and bigger from all the energy they're sending it.

So actually, negative energies have no power source except you. You give them energy, or not. They can't make you do anything or feel a certain way. You're the one with the vital life force.

Negativity is not something that is naturally fed or sustained by spirit. I believe that it needs feeding and as soon as you stop feeding it, it doesn't bother you - it doesn't have the power to bother you against your true will.

When people realize that they're the one with the power, it changes their perspective pretty quickly and they take a bit step towards summoning that power and casting out anything they feel is attacking them.

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That's brilliant, Anna.
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Wise words, Anna. I came to sort of an epiphany over this past weekend and realized that the reason I could not get the NEA to leave me is that I was attached to him as he was to me. I had been focused on hanging onto the spirit of my loved one who died, "D" and for a time I had confused the NEA with being "D" and I realized that I was terrified of letting either one of them go. When this was shown to me, I knew that I had to let go, release my attachment to both of them and give them both permission to go free. In this way I was able to set myself free as well. I asked the archangels and my spirit guides to assist the NEA in leaving me, and to guide him into the light.

I knew also that I had to release my hold on all negative feelings, emotions, guilt and shame, grief and fear, and I imagined myself in the basket of a hot air balloon, untying the ropes one by one that tethered the balloon to all these negative attachments, and when the last one was untied, the balloon floated free and lifted me up to the sky, unhindered and unencumbered by the weight of negativity.

I had a lot of breakthroughs over the last couple days and feel I am now on the right path to spiritual recovery and growth. This website and forum have helped me a lot. Thanks to all of you who contribute here!

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