Is This Just My Subconscious Showing Me What I Want?

[LisaSparkle]

Hello Lovely People,

Well, I didn't know where else to go with this, so I figured this was the best place.

What I want to know is how to tell if seeing deceased relatives in your dreams is your subconscious showing you what you want to see or perhaps the real thing.

My grandmother passed in April of 2000 and lately I have been missing her terribly. I talk to her and look at her photo and sometimes I think I would do anything just to sit down with her for a little while and have a cup of tea and talk about life. Well, since I've started having these feelings, she's been showing up in my dreams fairly regularly. This has never happened before. In the dreams, she is always so real, and I run to her and I can touch her and see her so clearly. I put my hands on her face and I ask her how this can be and ask if she is real. She never says anything, just nods and smiles a huge smile. I'm crying right now, just writing this because I want so bad for it to be real.

There has been a lot of family drama in the past few months and that's when these feelings started for me. I've always missed her, but not like this. I've never missed anyone like this. The drama has died down, but the longing for my grandmother has stayed. I just wonder if there is any way in the world that perhaps it is really her I am connecting with...

Well, thanks to anyone who has read this far. Peace and love to all.

-Lisa

[MiBeloved]

Usually this indicates that your grandmother is in an adjacent astral world, waiting for the next move which is usually a human body.
If someone who is deceased has not gone to a higher dimension or a heavenly world, that person will be stuck in an adjacent astral place and after some time, will again come out in this world as somebody's baby. That somebody is usually a relative, a grand child or some relation of the family.

Orient your mind to accepting the dream encounters as real, and relate to her in a compassionate way in terms of her need for another body. Right now the culture dictates that there be only a few children and that we should wait until we secure a college degree and a career before begetting children, since they get in the way of these aspirations, so anyone who needs a body is in a position of needing sympathy, since there are less and less opportunities, even in the family those persons served in.

[Mynder]

Also, strong emotion _can_ span a bridge to the deceased strong enough for them to connect back to you through.

That is...they can usually hear you when you talk to them, however the reverse is not automatically true as well (they need to figure out how to communicate back, and you need to actually be open for this kind of response).

So, wherever she is now, your sense of longing may have been strong enough for her to "tap into" that and reach you in your dreams. Yes, she is still "there". She's not gone, nor will she ever be truly gone, although she may change to a point where her previous earth life has less overall meaning to her, i.e. she merges back into the bigger self and "plots a new course".

She might be waiting for a new body to incarnate as, or she might simply be there to comfort you. In either case, I do not believe she'd want you to suffer, but if this is necessary for you to finally work through your grief, then that may be precisely the reason for her showing up in your dreams: to reassure you that everything is alright. That you are alright. That she trusts and encourages you to face your life bravely and with your head held high.

[LisaSparkle]

Mynder and MiBeloved - many thanks. Yes, this all makes sense.

I'm not surprised she can hear me as I have been talking to her a lot.

MiBeloved, when you say, "Usually this indicates that your grandmother is in an adjacent astral world, waiting for the next move which is usually a human body.", what do you mean by that? The fact that I keep seeing her and how real it seems?

I also wonder what the nodding and smiling means. We were very close and I know she wouldn't want me to suffer. Why doesn't she say anything? The situations in the dreams are always very different, but she is always standing and smiling. It's always so real. I wish she'd say something, but even then I'm not sure it wouldn't just be my mind conjuring it up. Is there really any way to know for sure?

Much love x

[Mynder]

Well, if she stood there staring you down, with spittle coming out of her mouth, what would you think she feels towards you? Probably anger, right?

If she keeps nodding and smiling, you're doing something "right" from her point of view. You're doing alright. You're still on the right track, and there'll be better days ahead.

[MiBeloved]

Originally Posted by LisaSparkle

When you say, "Usually this indicates that your grandmother is in an adjacent astral world, waiting for the next move which is usually a human body.", what do you mean by that? The fact that I keep seeing her and how real it seems? I don't think there is anyone in our family getting ready to have a baby.

That is too bad, because I don't think that she has any other avenue to go in. If her only out is to come back into this world, then it is too bad that all entry points (wombs) are closed to her.

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Originally Posted by LisaSparkle

I also wonder what the nodding and smiling means. Why doesn't she say anything? The situations in the dreams are always very different, but she is always standing and smiling. I wish she'd say something, but even then I'm not sure it wouldn't just be my mind conjuring it up. Is there really any way to know for sure?

Much love x

By meditation and keeping a journal you can know what she is thinking or what she wants to relate to you.

My guess is that the nodding and smiling is that she is seeing you as a sort of bright light, as her only hope for a future. And that is based on your congenial relationship with her.
That relationship alone could guarantee her a route back into this world. It would be her highway into her next body, as your affection for her could well convert into your acceptance of her as your loving child.

But this doesn't necessarily means that she thinks of it in that way. Unless she is hip to reincarnation, it is not likely, but still the result of the affection between the two of you would be just that, if it continues to develop and if you do not cut her off.

The next time it happens when you meet her try to study your energy and her energy and see if her psychic energy is coming towards your reproductive organs. If it is, then you can guess what will happen eventually.

I mentioned this because you asked, not to freak you out.

[LisaSparkle]

Whoa. Well, to be honest, this is the last thing I expected to hear. I guess I need to think about it for a while.

She seems happy when I see her. And I have no plans to have a baby...

Thanks again .. x x

[MiBeloved]

You should help the old lady if you can.

Where else can she find a parent?

Who else cares about her?

[Mynder]

MiBeloved: why do you think that her only way back into the world is through her old family?

Earth bonds and spirit bonds are not necessarily always the same. What makes you so convinced in this particular case?

[MiBeloved]

Originally Posted by Mynder

MiBeloved: why do you think that her only way back into the world is through her old family?

Earth bonds and spirit bonds are not necessarily always the same. What makes you so convinced in this particular case?

Following your line of reasoning, social earthly connections and karmic accounts do not necessarily tally as divine spiritual connections and spiritual needs, so then keeping all the accounts in their separate ledgers, the old lady's social earthly accounts were deposited with the said people and therefore if she is to draw out her social security now, how can it just suddenly be taken from her spiritual bank account.

In keeping with your idea and with Christ's Give-unto-Caesar-the-things-that-belong-to-Caesar statement, it would be the right action to allow her to cash in, in the very same family in which she served in her past life.

On the divine end she was unable to cash out, otherwise you would not be seeing her in that condition in the astral world. It must be that she drew blank on the divine end and is left with her social stuffs from your past life because that is where she invested most of her energy.

Don't turn her away, because then she will become terribly distraught and depressed as her little 401K account would have sunk like Wall Street just did.

But really, this is spiritual stock market stuff in the sense that after we leave a body, if perhaps something went amiss and our calculations for divine life do not pan out, then our only out is to turn back and face our living relatives and get from them our due in the form of another body.

But if then they all turn their backs on us, and leave us out in the cold, then how will we feel? What will we do? Who will help us? Which other family will open its parenting potential to us?

In consideration, I am sure you would agree, that it is inappropriate to be mean to the old lady.

But the costs? The liability? The risks? The restrictions which come on when one has a baby?

At least it gives us some idea what our parents (guardians) did for us!!

[Mynder]

Sorry, but I just can't wrap my mind around this very limiting and narrow-minded-seeming concept of karma and spirituality.

I also don't see karma as a checkbook kind of thing, more as some global state of harmony and balance. But it's okay if we have different points of view here.

What I basically wanted to know was whether your answer was derived from your spiritual knowledge in general, or whether you had a strong intuitive "pull" that in this case this might be "it".

[MiBeloved]

knowledge is derived from meditation practice and developed psychic perception, in observation of the actual way karma is worked out.



global state of harmony and balance?

That is a a great idea, if only reality would fit that ideal!!


but talk about balance, in physics they say that every action has within it the potention for an equal reaction. Talk about balance.

[Mynder]

knowledge is derived from meditation practice and developed psychic perception, in observation of the actual way karma is worked out

And here I thought this all depended on the individual filter of consciousness and limiting beliefs of the entities involved.

Anyway...if she feels it is the right thing to do to have a child and thus open a chance for her grandmother to incarnate, then I am sure it will happen that way. If she doesn't feel it is right...I would assume any spirit that goes beyond the attribute of "petty" would not try to impose on that and find someplace else. After all, time is not perceived the same way "up there" that it is down here, and a generation more or less isn't that big of a deal.

Or am I understanding something fundamentally wrong here?

Your posts don't really sound anything like what my own intuition says about the spirit world. They sound more like you're trying to bully her into a decision she might not be ready to make. Even though she asked.

I may not have your amount of education about spiritual matters, but nevertheless...it feels madly wrong.

[MiBeloved]

Wasn't trying to bully her. Why should I? What have I got to gain? I don't need a body. I have one. And even if I needed one, I couldn't get one in that family because just as I can't knock on any and every door and gain entry, that family would not even think of accommodating me.

But we are on the same page, in that this is unsettling, if we have any type of obligation to help others to get bodies, once we acquire one and become potential parents.

When we look at it in that way, the whole scheme of life changes.

So it is best that we all just see things in your way.

I am seriously thinking of forgetting my realizations from meditation and psychic communications with my relatives who are deceased, and just going along with your ideas.

[Mynder]

"My ideas" includes the possibility of your experiences...if the people/spirits involved maintain these kinds of belief systems.

i.e. if a spirit "thinks" it needs to work out a karmic debt this way, then it does.

It is very similar to Erin's post about hell.

What I'm getting at is...if this is so...then it is "self-inflicted" and could be shed through working out the belief and eliminating that.

That is how it works for most things "down here". And as the old teaching goes..."as below, so above".

This is just my take...and not proven in any way. It's just what intuitively feels right for me. Your experiences may lead you in a different direction...but this particular conclusion in all likelyhood does not serve the OP.

[MiBeloved]

Sounds good to me!

[Samuel Poon]

Just want to share my opinion but I agree with Mynder

[LisaSparkle]

Uhh, I really just wanted an idea as to whether it was really her or just a dream. Thanks, anyway. I'll work it out on my own.

Peace to all x

[Mynder]

Don't get discouraged! Just goes to show that, just as life, the spiritual is very rich in variety...and that nobody harbors the ultimate answers.

Just go with what feels right. Follow your heart and intuition. Try not to over-think or over-analyze. When something feels good...take it at face value and chalk it up as something positive.