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Old 09-12-2009, 01:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Astral Projection, demonic posession, mind control slaves

Is it possible while your astrally projecting, for another entity to come into your body, and use it for it's own purpose?

I ask this because I'm starting to think most celebrities and musicians are possessed by demons they call "alter egos", such as Lady GaGa, Beyonce (aka Sasha Fierce), Mariah Carey (aka MiMi), Tori Amos (aka Pip, Clyde, Santa, Isabel, etc..). Many don't seem that conscious or alive, if you get my drift after years of doing their careers. They usually are full of "ego" and overcompensate for not being human any longer, like a demon I imagine would.

So is it possible that celebrites are perhaps mind controlled to astrally project outside of themselves, while a demon enters their body, and basically lives through them, while many people have no clue at all what really is going on? Perhaps they come back into their body after a performance, or maybe their mind controlled to live in the astral for most of their lifes, as the mission to bring about the NEW WORLD ORDER takes place?

Makes you wonder:

Sasha Fierce vs Beyonce:


Article about how Beyonce is a Mind Control Slave:
Beyonce to Sasha Fierce: Symolic Occult Rebirth | The Vigilant Citizen


Tori Amos's alter egos:
Santa, Clyde, Isabel, Tori(herself), Pip


Article about Tori Amos being a Mind Control Slave:
TORI AMOS / MIND CONTROL / MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER


Lady GaGa as "Kermit":


Article about Lady GaGa being a Mind Control Slave:
Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet | The Vigilant Citizen



Mariah Carey as "MiMi":
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What I wonder about is why you would go out of your way to explain these things in such a complicated fashion, when there are easier explanations available.

Stars are under a lot of pressure, rarely or never really able to "just be themselves". There is a lot they have to suppress because they can hardly ever "switch off". These things need to be vented in some way or other.

Channeling these suppressed emotions and wants into a persona that can express them more freely (because they're not "me") is not too surprising in my opinion.

Sure, this can also be seen as something "spiritual", because it still has to do with dealing with yourself, but I doubt astral projection and possession are the closest match as far as explanations go.
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What's with that site? anagrams, all kinds of weird symbols...
And what do they have against Tori Amos? She's such a special singer, I love her. Being a popular singer puts a lot of pressure on someone, and of course they put on a persona. After all, you don't pay 500 dollars for a ticket to see just some regular woman singing. At least not every time.

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Everything I know, and have read, gives a big "no" to accidental possession while astral projecting. Nothing can posses you unless blatantly allowed, which is why we are told to be careful with ouija boards and the like, and why so many cases leading to exorcism begin with a haunting and depression (negative spirit beating down ones will to reject it)

The most practical answer is Myder's, but if you are really looking for an occult reason.. it is possible for any person (including celebs) to decide to allow a possession. Perhaps they think the being will grant them greater power, talent, who knows. Perhaps it was an accidental allowing and the didn't expel it for a variety of possible reasons.
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You don't have to look and search far to find examples of "voluntary possession". Take entities as Abraham, Seth and so on. They possess their mediums in order to communicate their teachings to the masses.

They do this with consent from their hosts. And I also believe that this kind of consent is next to necessary for possession to take place. You are connected to your body. For another entity to "slip into it", it has to push you aside forcefully, which is very hard to do.

Your body vibrates at "your frequency". So it is easy for you to inhabit it, and it is very hard for most people to even leave it because you're so used to vibrating at your "body level".

An entity seeking possession of your body would have to adapt vibrationally to your body's vibration, either by changing your body's vibration (currently I can't imagine how this would be done) or by changing their own vibration to better match your body's vibration. But in changing their vibration to match your body's vibration, they start likening themselves to you. Are you a person who would enter and take over somebody else's shell without wasting a thought to their well-being? Then yes, take care, others don't have to change much in order to get into yours because your vibrations are already similar. You invite back in what you send out. Go defend yourself.

But if you respect the rights and well-being of others, then your mindset emits a vibration that is very uninviting to possession by others, and it would require a much higher change and use of force in order to achieve possession of your body against your will. The allowing part seems to be of great importance here. Usually, the "host" needs to raise their vibration quite a bit to make possession possible at all (see Esther Hick's story on how she began channeling Abraham, and Abraham is undoubtedly a collective being of a somewhat high vibrational level/power).

Look at Erin's posts. She describes that entities were "messing with her body" while she was astral projecting in the beginning. So eventually, she encased her body in a crystal shell filled with light. Note that she said "messing with" and not "inhabiting". It sounds more like they were playing with it, as if with a doll.

All this take with a grain of salt, because it comes not from first-hand experience (at least not in this life) but from what "feels right" to me. I am fairly confident of this, but it may well not be the whole picture.
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