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Old 08-28-2009, 05:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default how to recognize your own thoughts from thoughts that come from outside?

How do you know when what you are thinking has originated in your brain and when it is a variation of other people's thoughts that you are picking unconsciously?
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Good question.. I'd like to hear other's experience on this as well. I sometimes get the urge to say or do something out of the blue and i afterwards think, why did i do that. I think sometimes that's picking up on other people's projections or expectations about you and feeling compelled to act it out. So, from my experience I think it's maybe when you feel obliged to say something suddenly or behave a certain way, and it almost just bypasses your brain, but if you pay attention you can feel something is a bit off.

Hmm.. does that make any sense?
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I experience the same- sometimes i feel as if things i do are not really my intention but are affected by others' expectations. Afterwards i wonder why i acted this way since it is not aligned with my thoughts, and i remember that i felt compelled to do it.
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This subject is discussed in detail in one of my recent books, see the Web address below.

The first thing to do is to keep a journal of all such thoughts, even jotting it down during the day by keeping a paper or small note book in your pocket.
The next step is to observe anything which happens which corresponds to a previous thought.
Over time you will be able to identify foreign thoughts and the source of such thought.
One thing that is necessary to develop the required sensitivity of mind is meditation, and that is the subject in the book below:


https://www.createspace.com/Customer....do?id=3380228

Amazon.com: Meditation Pictorial (9780981933221): Michael Beloved: Books


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Meditation Pictorial: ISBN 098193322X : Michael Beloved : EAN 9780981933221 : Book
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Dern good question. If you figure it out, let me know.

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So what you think you thought you thought someone else's thought that entered your thoughts at the same time you were thinking about the same thoughts that that person thought... I think?

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Old 08-29-2009, 10:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Erin, what do you think? I somehow think you'd have this one a bit more figured out
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Old 08-29-2009, 01:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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My answer is that we are always picking up information from the energy floating around, like tuning in to a radio. Some people are more aware that that's where the info is coming from and some people are receiving it unconsciously.

This is why sometimes I get a great idea for an episode of my favorite show and a year later I see the episode on the air... because thoughts are energy, and if you have a thought it is out there for anyone to pick up on.

Picking up on that energy consciously is what psychics do. We tune in to the chatter that's already going on, we find the channel we want to listen to (i.e. that of our sitter) and listen. I can get a lot of information about a person's life situation just by tuning in to their chakras, which are like litlte energy broadcasters. They tell me your story.

I have to hold back from not reading everyone I run across.
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My answer is that we are always picking up information from the energy floating around, like tuning in to a radio. Some people are more aware that that's where the info is coming from and some people are receiving it unconsciously.
So then how can we become consciously aware of when it's someone else's energy? And how can we stop ourselves from enacting these things almost unwillingly?
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I think the well-developed mind doesn't necessarily shun this information. (I mean, it would be a lonely place to only listen to your own thoughts and never those of others.)

But we all have that judge in our head who loves nothing more than to weigh the merit of everything we encounter, compare it to what we think we already know, throw it past our conscience and higher self and what pops out is hopefully aligned with what we feel is useful information.

Does it really matter where it came from? Especially if we are all the same consciousness...

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How do you know when what you are thinking has originated in your brain and when it is a variation of other people's thoughts that you are picking unconsciously?
Does thought, any thought, originate from your brain? IOW, does the brain manufacture thought? I could be wrong, but my take is that all that the brain does is interpret thought. So where does it all come from?

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ttt,

I suppose "foreign" thoughts are much like foreign feelings;
for myself, I get both. When I was young, I was very puzzled by foreign feelings. I eventually realized I had more of them when I was around more people. I would walk away from a crowd completely confused about the feelings I suddenly had to deal with.

After this happened repeatedly, I began to see the connection between being around a crowd and having unexplained feelings. I began to sort out the feelings; I looked for a connection between the feelings I was having and my own recent experiences or memories. When the two did not match, I began to suspect I was picking up someone else's feeling.

In a similar way, you can look at your thought process to see what you have been thinking recently. Use the "editor" in your brain to try to back up and examine the sequence of thoughts that led to the "foreign" one. Do they add up? If not, you may have detected a thought that has come from outside of you.

If you are with people you are comfortable with, you can try asking if they are thinking about the subject matter that just came into your mind. You can tell by the looks on their faces if you are actually picking up their thoughts! Smile.

I had the "foreign thought" experience repeatedly recently. I asked for confirmation and eventually after several incidents even more bizarre I concluded that I was being contacted by a close friend who had died and who still had some things to say to me. This shocked me, since I don't usually hear from the dead. It's a good idea to be open to many possibilities.

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If you are with people you are comfortable with, you can try asking if they are thinking about the subject matter that just came into your mind.
A problem is that the thoghts that come all of sudden are not in words, they are just like an inspiration to do something, for example.
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Does thought, any thought, originate from your brain? IOW, does the brain manufacture thought?
I have no idea, where do thoughts really come from if not people?
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I have no idea, where do thoughts really come from if not people?
Have you studied any Deepak Chopra books? They might give you some insight into this.

The point I was trying to make was that chances are there are no 'other people thoughts versus your thoughts'....... on a deeper level. We are all tapping into universal consciousness, which includes your thoughts and other peoples thoughts.

An exercise recommended in Think and Grow Rich is to create an imaginary mastermind group that you hold a virtual meeting with. So for example your mastermind group could include Einstein, whom you get to ask a few questions every now and then. In that case, what are you doing then if not tapping into Einsten's thoughts? Steve wrote about how he sometimes summons the energy of the Christ entity when he needs some guidance. Isn't that tapping into Christ's thoughts?

I think my short answer to your question is: you can't know. Thoughts are not really divided into mine versus yours, in the sense that they are stationary, rather they are fluid and flow to those that are ready to receive them. Which is why you can sometimes be susceptible to negative thinking patterns of others, if that is what you are ripe for. And perhaps the reason many PD teachers warn to be careful who you surround yourself with.

Please realize I emphasize "on a deeper level". What we have allowed to flow into our little consciousness versus what there is in universal consciousness..........2 different things.

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This is what meditation is for. When you can totally still your mind so that it is blank, when images arise, you will recognize them as messages. When you know you have blanked your mind and then you ask for guidance, the images you receive will have a different character than your normal thoughts.

Know Yourself! When you reflect inwardly, you get to know the quality of your own thoughts , images, ideas, emotions, etc. so that when something 'alien' comes in you know it.

You have to patient, but until you train the monkey mind to stay quiet, you will not be receptive enough to know the external messages when you get
them. They can also be very subtle, very quiet.

You have to learn to tune in to the Divine with an empty mind.

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