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Erin Pavlina 08-11-2009 04:10 PM

Do you still astral project? (Blog)
 
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Do you still astral project?

Albalida 08-11-2009 05:17 PM

I haven't initiated an OBE in over a year, and recently have been having a lot of difficulty and no success. I think perhaps it was my major vibrational change. When I was depressed, it was easier to blank all thought out and just surrender to the vibrations. Not that I want to go back to that state, but I figured I need to find a new way to drive in this new gear. Personally, I just haven't explored the astral to my satisfaction yet. :) So, thank you for this entry! It really helped clear up what I've been wondering lately, if this is like riding a bike (you never forget) playing the guitar (you just get rusty) or balletic grace (use it or lose it.)

jayh 08-12-2009 04:33 AM

I think I once started to go astral, but I'm not sure. To me, it felt like my consciousness was all I had - no body, but I couldn't see anything either. It scared me to death at the time, because I didn't now about astral travel, and just considered it to be a sort of OBE. I imagined it was what it feels like to die.

It happened very randomly to me only once, but I sure would like to know how to try it again. Can anyone recommend a good resource online like a podcast or course to learn how to do this? When I search online I seem to get back a bunch of poorly designed web sites... :)

Albalida 08-12-2009 05:17 AM

I don't think that was an OBE, Jayh, but perhaps it was an advanced jhana:
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Originally Posted by http://science.jrank.org/pages/7857/Meditation-Eastern.html
Buddhist traditions analyze the results of meditation into eight stages of increasingly subtle states of consciousness called the "absorptions" or "trance" states of higher consciousness (in Pali, jhana; in Sanskrit, dhyana). These are, it is said, the states of mind the Buddha passed through in deep meditation on his way to enlightenment. The first is described as a mental state of detachment from sensual pleasures and craving, in which, however, the discursive intellect is still active. In the second state, the mind grows more still, concentration increases, discursive thought ends, and great joy and peace arise. The third stage is characterized by the transcendence of sensual joy itself and the attainment of equanimity, which brings about a higher form of bliss, and by the diminishing of the sense of self as the subject of this experience. The fourth trance state is where consciousness of all duality abates and one achieves the "utter purity of mindfulness," which lies beyond all words.

The second set of four even subtler states of mind are called the "formless" jhanas because they are based on contemplation of formless subjects: the infinity of space, the infinity of consciousness, nothingness, and "neither perception nor nonperception." The last of these is where subject and object are nearly indistinguishable and all pairs of opposites are totally transcended.

Here's a neat OBE tutorial YouTube channel I found:
YouTube - OBE Vibrations & 3 Ways To Tell How Close You Are To An OBE - Lucidology 101 Part 10/12

jayh 08-13-2009 01:58 AM

Thanks for the information - that's very interesting reading. I'll certainly look into this further - and thanks for the links!


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