Question about Possible Astral Vamps and Sleep Paralysis

[Novoneiro]

Okay, so here's whats going on. For most of my adult life I have been noticing strange things happening when I am sleeping - or rather, trying to sleep. I have been keeping these strange experiences to myself because the subject is just so weird that I have been unable to talk about it with others.
So, what usually happens is that I will start to feel like there is something moving on my bed. It is usually down by my feet. its almost like somebody is walking on my bed. This will semi wake me up and put me into a limbo sleep awake state. Then I will feel like something like a ghost or something is laying down into me. I usually get the feeling at this point that it wants me to give in and comply with what ever it is that it is doing. I can sense that it wants to take me to the next level. I am a very strong willed person and always have the will power to kick the offender out of me. One time when I kicked the intruder out, I heard a female voice in my ear say "Dont fight it." The voice was so real. It was definatly not a dream. Is this what some people on this site are calling an astral sex encounter? If so, it is more like astral rape. This experience happened again to me a couple of nights ago. I kept waking up the whole night after kicking the astral vamp out with an evil type of feeling in the air. I just want to keep these idiots away from me. Has anyone had any experience with this? What can I do?

[PurePhoenix]

I wouldn't say that's a vamp, they (usually stealthily) feed off humans.
That's more like a demon, which often make attempts to control humans and wreak havoc on earth.

The big concern i have, is that you have stated you have some spiritual / empathic sensitivity in this line;

I kept waking up the whole night after kicking the astral vamp out with an evil type of feeling in the air.

Except you have not stated where the evil intent is coming from. Is the being trying to "occupy" your body the source of the evil intent, or is it trying to occupy you so it can PROTECT you from the source of the evil intent?

Find that answer and you will have the problem resolved. Also i hate to burst your bubble, but your "willpower" has absolutely nothing to do with being able to kick out the invader. People can have plenty of will power and 0 spiritual growth/ability, when they are attacked they lose consciousness just as easily and as fast as someonoe with 0 will power. You either have a natural talent at controlling entities, or you have experience in doing so in prior lives / in between lives.

That is probably the reason for the attacks. They know you do not mentally understand your abilities and soul, so they see you as an easy target. They want to know how your abilities and soul work so if it really is a demon or other neg trying to invade you then you seriously need to learn to protect yourself.

Finally, no, this is nothing like astral sex.

[Erin Pavlina]

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[PurePhoenix]

EDIT: wow, that really was not necessary.
1) Demons cannot use astral energy. I am not claiming to know for sure who they were, but the 3 figures assisting you in your first projection certainly weren't demons.
2) Demons do not assist people in projecting. Because they are incapable of using astral energy, they also cannot help you project.
3) It would be wise to revise your experience there and try to find out what actually was going on.

Finally that has absolutely nothing to do with the opening posters' questions or concerns. I don't know why or how you came to the impression that these figures assisting you to project were demons but that conclusion is HIGHLY contrary to everyone elses' experiences.

[Albalida]

Originally Posted by PurePhoenix

that has absolutely nothing to do with the opening posters' questions or concerns. I don't know why or how you came to the impression that these figures assisting you to project were demons

*coughs politely* (I think that link meant to suggest that what Novoneiro THINKS is a demon, might really be a GUIDE. Please, PP, this is Mrs Pavlina's profession. And, uh... forum. )

[Mynder]

I suggest two possibilities that appear "plausible":

1. There really is at least one entity external to OP, and at least one of them is either truly malignant or simply wants to scare OP and have a good laugh

2. There is no evil entity external to OP. This could mean either a guide who is trying to help OP astral project or no entity at all. The sensory conviction of somebody being there could be simply OP's fear of leaving the body (there is a reason why we, for the most part, don't do that on a whim). Fears and other emotions can become tangible construcs in dreams and the astral, and it may look as if they "drain" their "creator" when in fact it's the creator actively sustaining the construct. Own your fears. Acknowledge them. Take heart, find courage, embrace and overcome them.

As I see it, OP has a choice to make, to either shut these happenings out (by using appropriate means and mantras of protection), or facing the inner fear, mentally preparing for either case, again with appropriate protection (Erin wrote what works for her, and there are many other ways to do this).

If you are utterly convinced that nothing can harm you, then you will be at the most stable and resistant to any kind of attack or energy "drain".

[Novoneiro]

Thanks to everyone who answered.

Im not sure if I agree with some of things that were said but I do realize now that it would help if I keep the energy around me more positive. It seems the negative forces are repelled by good energy.

[jayh]

Just throwing in my two cents here - the sensations you describe about feeling a heavy weight on you are very common physical sensations you would experience while going into sleep paralysis. It's just that you are conscious of them because your mind is awake. It's like your body is going to sleep because it thinks your mind is asleep too, but it's not - You can kind of trick yourself into experiencing sleep paralysis this way, and use it to astral travel. I've managed to do it a few times, and also experience the sensations of an "evil" presence walking around the bed, and breathing in my ear. I'm still not sure what this is - I often hear voices too when this happens. Work with it instead of fearing it, and you may have some fun!

[Reverend Keith]

Originally Posted by jayh

Just throwing in my two cents here - the sensations you describe about feeling a heavy weight on you are very common physical sensations you would experience while going into sleep paralysis. It's just that you are conscious of them because your mind is awake. It's like your body is going to sleep because it thinks your mind is asleep too, but it's not - You can kind of trick yourself into experiencing sleep paralysis this way, and use it to astral travel. I've managed to do it a few times, and also experience the sensations of an "evil" presence walking around the bed, and breathing in my ear. I'm still not sure what this is - I often hear voices too when this happens. Work with it instead of fearing it, and you may have some fun!

Robert Bruce describes this phenomena as the "Watcher at the Threshold". In his opinion, it's designed to scare you aware from conscious astral projecting until you have the courage to face it. Then you've passed the test and you can do what you want. Haven't run into it myself.

[jayh]

Originally Posted by Reverend Keith

Robert Bruce describes this phenomena as the "Watcher at the Threshold". In his opinion, it's designed to scare you aware from conscious astral projecting until you have the courage to face it. Then you've passed the test and you can do what you want. Haven't run into it myself.

Wow, I've never heard of that, but it's very fascinating. Thanks!

[SatanAzazel]

ask the gods for protection and robert bruce is one of the biggest fruads ever thsoe books are totally worthless very few people have the experinces have what he experinces he talks about seven planes of existence which a lot of projecors including myself know there a lot more than that !