A double pyramid.. a way to see our existence

[Geminie]

Hello everyone,

I'm new here, and I have a million + 234 questions... but I'll start with one that I have been recently pondering.

Whenever I try to explain my thoughts on more spiritual topics I use the analogy of a pyramid. We right now, are living in the physical plane, or at the bottom of the pyramid. At the top is Nirvana, God, the Source, Love/Light ... whatever is the most pure.

In order to move up in the pyramid your vibrational frequency must match that of the level of that specific plane. I met a man (more about him later..) and he told me that his master reached enlightenment... or oneness. or Nirvana... he got to the top of the pyramid... but while he was there, his body physically died. So it looks like you can't be one with the light and still be alive on Earth... from what he told me.

I'm assuming that there are different levels of becoming "one with" the light. That's not to say that he's no longer an enlightened individual, as I'm sure he still is.

Ok so my question is this.... since there is this upwards pyramid moving towards becoming one with ultimate good and light.. is there a backwards pyramid (directly underneath this one) with various levels or degrees of evil?

Is this like heaven + hell... I don't believe in heaven and hell in the traditional sense.. but since I do believe in the first pyramid I was describing does that mean that an opposite one has to exist? Like yin/yang... good/evil... does everything have balance. Since there is ultimate good/light /God... does ultimate evil exist too?

I don't actually believe in a pyramid... I was just trying to use that to describe my idea of how we evolve and sort of move up and closer to the Source, or to higher more aware beings....I think it's the same thing when astral projecting.. you can't reach higher planes or higher beings if your own vibrational frequency is very low.

Ok does that make any sense?? Is this a correct way of describing what I think?

Thanks for reading!

[Samuel Poon]

I think I know what you're trying to say, I think

That's kind of what I thought also.

Basically, how can there be light, without a dark? How can there be love, without hate? How can one understand anything without some kind of scale?

I dunno, but maybe the first pyramid actually already has a double pyramid inside?

[alloftheabove]

Perhaps an hourglass shape could be considered?

I should explain. The way I see it, at least at the moment, is that there is good and evil. the top half of the hourglass represents various forms/interpretations/frequencies of good, ultimately ending up at the most powerful (/meaningful?) level: god; source; love; light; etc.

The bottom half represents the various forms/interpretations/frequencies of bad/evil/etc, ending up with the most powerful form/frequency of evil/hate at the bottom (what form/interpretation represents that?).

In the middle, where the two halves meet, is us, in our most unaffected/neutral frequency. At some point in our lives, we start moving towards one end or the other. That is not to say, however, that if one is in the 'bad' half of the hourglass, that one is permanently biased towards 'bad', and vice versa for the good. Nor does the hourglass shape imply that one can be easily dragged into the 'bad' half.

Hows that for an interpretation? Any comments?

[Geminie]

yeah that's what I was thinking as well... as for astral projection and where in this makeshift hourglass/pyramid you end up.. how high or how low... depends on your vibrational frequency.

A new theory that I've only read about here, is that you can instantly raise or lower your vibrational frequency. That I never knew before... I thought that it takes years of meditation or personal development to significantly raise one's vibrations. I'm still pondering that one...

[StacyT]

Very cool to think of it as an hourglass - I love the visual!!


Kinda like, "For every vibration, there is an equal and opposite vibration."

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Geminie

Ok so my question is this.... since there is this upwards pyramid moving towards becoming one with ultimate good and light.. is there a backwards pyramid (directly underneath this one) with various levels or degrees of evil?

Is this like heaven + hell... I don't believe in heaven and hell in the traditional sense.. but since I do believe in the first pyramid I was describing does that mean that an opposite one has to exist? Like yin/yang... good/evil... does everything have balance. Since there is ultimate good/light /God... does ultimate evil exist too?

Not necessarily.

For example, is darkness the opposite of light..........or is it the absence of light?

Is cold the opposite of heat..........or is it the absence of heat?

You see, the illusion is that there *IS* an opposite. Its no accident that this property is reflected in the illusory expressions of physical duality.

Similarly, there are no TRULY evil beings. There are only beings that resist the light so strongly that they have embodied the consciousness of darkness.

What we think of as evil, is actually more like the sleeping half of the creator -- the part that dreams it is less than infinitely aware of all unity.

And balance is simply absolute awareness, or absolute light. Anything less than that is imbalance. Evil is not the balance of good -- it would be more accurately referred to as the disharmony that results when balance is *NOT* realized.

I mean, would you ever intentionally hurt another if you truly felt their pain as intensely as if it were your own? You see, we are one being. All disharmony (what some term evil), arises from a state of DIS-connection -- never from a state of CONNECTION.

Does that make sense?

[SimonaRich]

There are many enlightened people that still live on this earth. You do not have to die to achieve enlightenment.

[Geminie]

Thank you for your insight Anagogy, and SimonaRich I do realize that however, it was the fact that he couldn't be 100% one with "the source" while still being alive that I found intriguing. This person is still alive, still enlightened and living a full life ..

[wolfgang]

I can't think of levels of consciousness as how it goes. Or good versus evil.

Because if you listen to someone "awake" they don't feel good or evil as different things or right or wrong. All that is coming from our conditioning to make a self that draws a line somewhere and calls the other side "not me" or "bad".

Duality doesn't turn into something you get to go to one side of to be enlightened. If that were true there would still be judgments and conditioning running to make sure you are on the top of the pyramid being the "all good" apex.

Maybe you get to know that it's an illusion playing out in duality - I don't know how that equates to being "good" or kind to living beings.