Isn't there a less painful way to learn spiritual lessons? (Blog)

[Erin Pavlina]

Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Erin Pavlina's blog:

Isn?t there a less painful way to learn spiritual lessons?

[seeker5]

Thank you Erin

It's interesting to get up in the middle of the night feeling emotional pain and not being able to sleep, and then come across your new blog post about how to have a less painful way to achieve your lessons! .

Though, I think what you wrote applies to emotional lessons too. I think sometimes when you ignore something emotionally big in your life and you don't deal with it then it's going to keep coming back bigger and bigger and that's what I was thinking too I'm dealing with. I shoulda paid more attentions to the breadcrumbs earlier instead of now when they've manifested into a bigger loss . I'm going to make sure I'm eating the bread now and not put it off to later and have more losses.

[JoePike]

Thanks for answering so thoroughly Erin. That article expanded on a lot of points you've previously written about, and clarified the role of our guides perfectly. While you obviously don't have 'all the answers'...I really appreciate how you share what you do know so effectively.

[staceyterry]

Well... if that's the case, at least I know that I'm keeping my guides plenty busy!!

[IamBren]

I was listening to a Robert Holden online seminar on happiness, and I think one thing he said is appropriate here: the best gifts in life often come in the worst wrapping - keep unwrapping!

I know when something happens that I'm sad about, I'll eventually see the bigger picture. It seems to happen this way without fail. This helps me stay more positive and optimistic.

[Adrianne]

What I have learned about life lessons is that we choose a curriculum or set of lessons for ourselves before we incarnate. We pick the areas that our souls need to work on most and that will lead to the most fulfillment. Often in life when we first begin these lessons we learn mostly through negative learning experiences but as we progress in the lesson, the learning can shift to more and more positive learning experiences. Having awareness of our lessons can help us make this shift more rapidly. With some self-inquiry and awareness you can discover what the patterns of learning have been in your life and so what the lessons are that you have chosen to work on in this life.

Also, I am a professional intuitive and for the past few months I have been offering a free mini-intuitive reading on my website on discovering your primary life lesson. I tell people what the lesson is, what percentage complete it is and where it is currently showing up in their life. This is a good experience for me because I get an idea of all the different types of lessons souls choose to focus on and it is wonderful to get feedback from others about how the information has helped them put their life experiences into a different context. In the future they are able to notice their lesson showing up more consciously and so take a more active role in their growth and learning.

[jayh]

Thanks once again Erin for speaking directly to my needs Beautiful post!

[Erin Pavlina]

Adrianne, yes exactly right. Having awareness of what lessons are being presented to us makes it easier to tackle them.

[Laura Bruno]

Nice post. I've had a few "ass-drops" in my life, my 1998 brain injury arguably the biggest one. In my own life and working to support others back off their bums, these moments are some of the most potent and dramatic ones available for harnessing quantum leap-type energy. ... Any time people hear that gives positive momentum to those shifts, so kudos for the post!

[Hyperchiller]

Thanks Erin for that post.

If you say it like that then yes, landing on our asses is a gift if you contrast it to what MAY potentially be way worse if we didn't change our ways.

[Adrianne]

Originally Posted by Adrianne

What I have learned about life lessons is that we choose a curriculum or set of lessons for ourselves before we incarnate. We pick the areas that our souls need to work on most and that will lead to the most fulfillment. Often in life when we first begin these lessons we learn mostly through negative learning experiences but as we progress in the lesson, the learning can shift to more and more positive learning experiences. Having awareness of our lessons can help us make this shift more rapidly. With some self-inquiry and awareness you can discover what the patterns of learning have been in your life and so what the lessons are that you have chosen to work on in this life.

Also, I am a professional intuitive and for the past few months I have been offering a free mini-intuitive reading on my website on discovering your primary life lesson. I tell people what the lesson is, what percentage complete it is and where it is currently showing up in their life. This is a good experience for me because I get an idea of all the different types of lessons souls choose to focus on and it is wonderful to get feedback from others about how the information has helped them put their life experiences into a different context. In the future they are able to notice their lesson showing up more consciously and so take a more active role in their growth and learning.

Wow, a lot of people have really responded to this and signed up for my free reading offer! I am really overloaded now so since I am only one person I am going to have to take this off my site for the time being... However, I do currently offer a paid life lesson reading which covers your primary life lesson as well as the other usually between 3 and 6 lessons on your Soul's curriculum for this lifetime.

[missing]

so what happens if you decide the lesson is stupid, existence is stupid, and you want out? Do your guides leave you alone and stop dropping you on your ass? I don't know, the whole thing sounds rather sadistic and authoritarian, with a sprinkling of condescension. Sorta, "learn this lesson, or we're gonna hurt you realll bad... but only cause we love you... and you damn well better appreciate it, or we're gonna hit you even harder till you do!" *bam*. I wonder what the appeal is in being part of a consciousness where we hurt whom we love, "for their own good".

Am I the only person who sees it this way or am I just nuts? Hmm, maybe best not to answer that...

[Bliss Sage]

Originally Posted by missing

Am I the only person who sees it this way

No.

[Parthon]

No, probably not.

But they only drop you on your arse when you are facing a worse problem furthur up, for example: years of despair and loneliness, but because of your free will, you are quite capable of ignoring the sign and continue right into the trap.

Here's the thing: your guide's warning is always temporary, but the results of your actions could be permanent.

Most of the time they can nudge people with hints. If your someone who needs an arse kicking though, why is that?

[Bliss Sage]

Originally Posted by Parthon

But they only drop you on your arse

Honestly, I don't even subscribe to this prerequisite notion that guides are causing my suffering, deliberately or otherwise.

[missing]

Originally Posted by Bliss Sage

Honestly, I don't even subscribe to this prerequisite notion that guides are causing my suffering, deliberately or otherwise.

yea, I have a real hard time believing that my guides, who are supposed to be helping me, are the ones tossing me into the maze like a confused lab rat. I'd say whatever is causing me problems in my life right now is something more sinister. I can't put my finger on it, but I do know that certain suffering is just not necessary. Hell, all suffering. We humans make our own problems. Our "guides" our not the ones tossing us on our asses. We are. We're tossing ourselves on our own asses, not to mention each other. If our guides are worth anything, they're all doing a big collective facepalm as we speak.

it's good imagery Erin writes about, very vivid, but there's a real darkside to it, at least from my perspective. It makes your guides sound like your enemy, and if they are only doing it to prevent a worse, future malady down the road, than what the hell is that existing for? To teach us another, deeper lesson? For what purpose? I'm seriously doubting this idea that we come to earth to learn "lessons" altogether. What the hell is there to learn? I thought we were already perfect as we are. Coming here can only serve to ♥♥♥♥♥ us up, and realize the potential misery of a conscious existence. I don't know, something just doesn't add up here.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by missing

I'd say whatever is causing me problems in my life right now is something more sinister. We humans make our own problems.

So, you would say that you are something more sinister? You're making your own problems, after all, and what's causing you problems is something more sinister.

Are you sinister?

[Erin Pavlina]

I think you guys might be missing one point. Your guides don't drop you in the maze, you drop yourself. Your higher self preselected these guides to help you. You don't want to be in the maze without some help do you?

You can ignore their help. You can actively seek out their help. Or you can just tool along, occasionally checking in to see what advice they have for you. They are not sadistic.

Think of it more like a wake up call. you call the hotel operator and say, 'I need to be up at 6am or I'll miss an important business opportunity/meeting." The operator calls you at 6am. Are you mad at her? What if she didn't call you and said, "Oh sorry, I didn't think you actually wanted to be woken up so early, so I decided it would be more comfortable for you if you slept in. I hope that was alright."

If you decide the lesson is stupid, ignore it. We are all responsible for our own lives, our own choices, etc. I personally enjoy the nudgings I get from the guides. They've saved me a lot of heartache. But if you want to rough it and enter the maze without a compass, canteen, and a map, that's your choice too.

[Parthon]

Yah, what erin said!

Life is the maze, and we put ourselves there in order to grow and learn. Yes, we are already perfect and whole, but there's a whole pattern of mystery to learn and experience. Like a roller coaster ride (if you like them), you've been on it multiple times before, but it's still fun to go on it again.

You guides are exactly that, guides. Like Erin said, you picked them, so they do what you asked them to do. If you are offtrack, they will try and guide you back on track as gently as possible. Gently however can be seen as rough by us when we are material focused. We lose our job, or our house, but it's not really a significant part of us. It's just stuff, but we are so personally hurt by it.

In the end, if you don't want such 'harsh nudges' from your guides, stop being so stubborn, you dunderhead.