mischievous small beings?

[amixa]

so it wasn't until recently i started reading up on beings like elves and gnomes as i found myself reading up on iceland and how much they still believe in them.

i'm wondering if anyone here has had any 'run-ins' with short beings in the north american sphere...like if there are any brownies or whatever you want to call them (they seem to exist in cultures all over the world).
i was just at my boyfriends' parents house over the holidays and him and his brother's hats both disappeared without anyone touching them (they asked everyone seriously and no answers - so its not a prank). they both arrived at the same time and these are your typical scottish cap type hats (his mom is scottish)
anyway after contemplating for 2-3 seconds if there was a possibility mischievous sprites could have done this (especially native to scotland?) in the guest bedroom i saw some swirl of a traveling light being for a split second at the other side of the room. this has never happened so obviously and quickly outside of my home before. this swirl was near the floor as if it would have been a small being and i call it a swirl but it looks like there was some definition of a figure moving fast i just couldn't make it out properly.

either way they never found their caps.. and my boyfriend and i are considering telling his mother it could be a brownie who has a fond liking for traditional scottish caps...
any thoughts?

[vMike]

Yep probably elves and gnomes, if the hats were big, then it might be trolls also

[amixa]

couldn't make out a hat or anything! just an arm i think!
are these light beings then?
how come there aren't any stories of them being present in north america?

[Mato Kinze]

I have two mischeivious small beings that live in my house... my daughters.

Sorry... just joking. I know your question was a serious one, but I couldn't resist.

No North American Indigenous Peoples that I know of have any corresponding myths of "little people". They have myths of shapeshifters that go from Human to animal form, but I've never heard of anything like Elves, Gnomes, Fairies, Brownies, Pixies or the like.

'Course... just because I've never heard of them doesn't mean they don't exist.

[amixa]

just to add to this thread,
i went on a journey and there just happened to be two gnomes in my garden. i asked them how come they are here and how come natives don't have stories about you and they replied that they weren't needed -- so they never revealed themselves.
although i'm not quite sure what they do yet haha. but perhaps reteach humans about nature? ...

[Saraleee]

I've always thought the elves, fairies, gnomes and brownies and the like were a personification, if you will, of nature and the land.

But I did a lot of research on the myths and legends, and these beings only exist where people live together in close proximity--cities and villages and places like that. They seem to be more closely connected with people than with nature.

Saralee

[SimonaRich]

I really don't think they exist.

[oberlee]

Originally Posted by amixa

just to add to this thread,
i went on a journey and there just happened to be two gnomes in my garden. i asked them how come they are here and how come natives don't have stories about you and they replied that they weren't needed -- so they never revealed themselves.
although i'm not quite sure what they do yet haha. but perhaps reteach humans about nature? ...

Wait, I'm confused... you went on a "journey" but you found gnomes in YOUR garden? Does that mean you went on a journey to your backyard? Or perhaps you didn't mean to use the word "my" or perhaps English isn't your first language and I'm reading into these things too much. I'm just really confused by this post.

My 2 cents: call me crazy, but I don't believe or disbelieve anything. I don't think, however, that something like this that exists outside of our reality really exists within our reality, either. But who am I to say?

[oberlee]

Often, it's just someone who doesn't want to 'fess up. No, really.

At my old job, where my boyfriend still works, we had a bunch of weird stuff always happen: enveloped upside-down in the feeder, cookies placed on the copy machine, keys lost only to be found one by one in random places (refrigerator, plant, paper clip box), and a bunch of other things, of varying annoyingness. I was SO certain it was this one toad-lady because it fit in perfectly with her personality, which was very passive-aggressive.

But then when she left, it would start again. I was honestly convinced it was a spirit. My boyfriend thought I was crazy. But it was so...sick that it seemed highly unlikely that anyone there would do something like that.

It still happens, and apparently a colleague placed a hidden camera at his desk and found out who it was. While I might have thought this person would have done something initially as a joke, to keep it up for several years is disturbing.

So, if fairies and brownies, etc., exist where people live in proximity, you have a greater chance that these entities are really just these secretive corners of other people.

[Angela]

The Blue People. All you people who smugly insist the Blue People don't exist, watch out, because suddenly you won't be able to find your cellphone, or you won't be able to match any of your socks up.

Listen for the very faint giggling sound when that happens -- that's the Blue People.

[MinglewoodBlues]

No North American Indigenous Peoples that I know of have any corresponding myths of "little people". They have myths of shapeshifters that go from Human to animal form, but I've never heard of anything like Elves, Gnomes, Fairies, Brownies, Pixies or the like.

Oh yes they do. There are myths about "little people" from North and South American tribes. There have been writers like Robert Anton Wilson that have mentioned this. What was the little green guy he talked about in Cosmic Trigger? It was a native american legend creature associated with mescal and maize(corn) I think.

I don't necessarily believe in the elves in a literal sense but it is interesting that basically every continent and inhabited region in history has names for the mischievous 'Robin Good Fellow' types.

I had a Japanese girlfriend back in school who was a real trip. She believed in elves all her life and claimed to see them on many occasions. Then again she came out of an unusual sort of neo-pagan Japanese family. Her mother couldn't go outside after the sun went down because she believed she would become possessed by animal spirits and get lost. Her mother's boyfriend had a strange name. Mr. Donkey. He liked to climb trees a lot for no apparent reason . I don't know what that has to do with elves except that from my experience, those who believe in mischievous spirits lead mischievous lives.

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by MinglewoodBlues

Oh yes they do. There are myths about "little people" from North and South American tribes. There have been writers like Robert Anton Wilson that have mentioned this. What was the little green guy he talked about in Cosmic Trigger? It was a native american legend creature associated with mescal and maize(corn) I think.

Excellent! Thanks. Here's a link I found after a little more searching. My Great-Grandmother was Western Band Tsalagi (Cherokee) and loved to tell stories. I'm surprised she never shared this one.

[million]

I felt like i had a small being in my pants once, but when i checked it was just my penis.





Sorry, couldn't resist . Take it easy, i'm just joking

[amixa]

Originally Posted by oberlee

Wait, I'm confused... you went on a "journey" but you found gnomes in YOUR garden? Does that mean you went on a journey to your backyard? Or perhaps you didn't mean to use the word "my" or perhaps English isn't your first language and I'm reading into these things too much. I'm just really confused by this post.

sorry, by journey i meant the shamanic journeying that i do. its basically a tool to reach another state of consciousness and you can choose whether or not you will explore this world or other worlds. so i journeyed into my own backyard and saw them.
its the same thing when erin goes on an elevator to visit her spirit guide. one *could* call it a journeying session of some sort.

[amixa]

Originally Posted by Angela

The Blue People. All you people who smugly insist the Blue People don't exist, watch out, because suddenly you won't be able to find your cellphone, or you won't be able to match any of your socks up.

Listen for the very faint giggling sound when that happens -- that's the Blue People.

hahahahahahaha

its true!!! ok i've seen them .. once..

[amixa]

Originally Posted by Mato Kinze

Excellent! Thanks. Here's a link I found after a little more searching. My Great-Grandmother was Western Band Tsalagi (Cherokee) and loved to tell stories. I'm surprised she never shared this one.

oh I like this one!!!
sounds a lot like peter pan! hmm i wonder if peter pan originated from something like this.. i mean clearly the children were astral travelling to begin with!

[handle]

Many people in Newfoundland, Canada believe in small beings. So much so that they don't even like the mention of the word faerie. Some also believe that children are kidnapped and killed by such mystical creatures. If you do an internet search on the subject, you will find a lot of information and people that do believe in them. But make sure you have the correct spelling.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by amixa

hahahahahahaha

its true!!! ok i've seen them .. once..

You actually SAW the Blue People? According to legend, that means you yourself will become a Blue Person. Have you checked yourself for blueness?

[amixa]

Originally Posted by Angela

You actually SAW the Blue People? According to legend, that means you yourself will become a Blue Person. Have you checked yourself for blueness?

other then the bruise on my knee no blueness a'tall