US Presidential Election - Erin's call?

[Erin Pavlina]

Think of free will and destiny like a map. You have a destination, but many roads will take you there. Some are shorter, others more scenic, some roads are fraught with danger and road hazards. But eventually, you reach your destination. Broken or intact, in short order or in a long period of time, happy or sad.... you still reach it. How you get there is up to you. Where you go is predetermined, HOWEVER, even your destination can be changed using free will. Perhaps you decide you don't want to get to X-city. You can alter your destination.

[Nneka]

What if our destination is to know ourSelves as God. Then, the destination will always be the same. We would continue to create situations and experiences that would bring us to that knowledge. As Erin said, it wouldn't matter at all how we got there or the state of our emotions at the time, but we would always fulfill our destiny.

In the case of Al Gore, perhaps in his losing he gave rise to another leader. That leader was at least able to a large number of people out of their slumber to take a second look at the state of their country and the world.

In winning, Al Gore himself may have done that. Maybe, he would have awakened more.

Our destiny, applied to a state of being rather than a mission to complete, can be achieved any number of ways. When one door closes, many other windows open up.

In Spirit,
Nneka

[daj]

Some of you are so unaware...
You do realize McCain and Obama don't write their own speeches in most cases....infact most of Obama's speeches have been plagarized.

Who writes Obama’s speeches? [WTF!?] « José Miguel’s Weblog


So who's really in control? Congress and copywriters....

Read This to see what kind of programming is going on in the media regarding this election, there is no unbiased sources...

CNN Mind Control Tactics
Written by: Mike Dillard

So it’s a rare occasion… I’m sitting here poking around the net at midnight while watching a special on John McCain which was preceded by a special on Barack Obama. Now just for the record, I’m neither a Republican or a Democrat. If anything, I’m a Libertarian and if I had my choice, I’d be voting for Ron Paul.

Yet as I sit here on my couch, I’m utterly shocked by what I’ve seen tonight… Obama’s special positioned him as a golden boy who’s destined to change the world. McCain has been portrayed as the cheater, the liar, and an opportunist. His wife, as a drug addict and a thief.

Now I respect your views one way or another, and once again I’m not fans of either candidate, but what I’m witnessing is nothing short of intentional mind control…

You see, I’m watching these specials as a marketer and a copywriter, (which is in this case a script writer). Having acquired the skill of copywriting, I’m absolutely speechless at what I’m seeing.The producer/writer of these episodes is utterly devious, and disgustingly talented…

As I watch the McCain episode, I’m just counting and listing the subconscious implants as they flood through my television…

The following words were pulled out of the McCain “report” in less than 20 minutes…

“odd couple, scandal, cheater, drug addict, divorce, would test patience and tenacity, opposition, label, lied, short votes, frustrated, anger, ugly side, constant struggle, furious, his only worry, attacks, viscous, out of wed-lock, angrily, smear, you got beat, bitter, complained, disaster, not enough resources, flirtation, repair, disastrous start, debacle, lose, combative, unpopular, calculating, oldest…”

Now Obama’s turn.
This is the second airing of his special, and the following words were pulled from the first 10 minutes…

“biggest crowds, under-dog, caught fire, yes we can, rock star, magnet, making history, next president of the US, unlikely candidate, possible, fascinating, opportunities, wonderful, pure Americana, spectacular, loving, sweet, right vs.wrong, strong, persistent, dream, promise, win, smart, charisma, hopeful, bright eyes, joyful, outgoing, vibrant, brilliant…”

You’ve got to be kidding me.

My friends, if you don’t believe in the power of copywriting, subconscious implants, and persuasion, then you’d better wake-up because you’re mind is being controlled by the mass media, andI’ve just sat here and watched it happen once again from a network that’s supposed to be unbiased.

Now just incase you’ve fallen for that load of BS, “unbiased” doesn’t exist in businesses that are out for profit, which are controlled by people who are out for power. There’s always an agenda, and if they can try to frame their twisted content as “unbiased” in order to make it more palatable for us to swallow, they will… And they do.

In my opinion, copywriting is the most powerful skill in the world… Nuclear weapons have nothing on the hypnotic power of the spoken, persuasive word, and are in fact, servants of their verbal master.

It is the single, most valuable skill I’ve acquired.

If you have not invested in your copywriting skills, and mastered this power, you are spinning your wheels and for the most part… Powerless.

Powerless to engage people. Powerless to grab attention. Powerless to interact. Powerless to persuade, powerless to motivate, and powerless to sell.

Those who have mastered the skill of copywriting dominate this market. They produce the most leads, sell the most products, sponsor the most distributors, and make the most money.

If you think I’m full of it, just look around…

Copywriters are the most powerful people in the world. The President of the United States of America isn’t giving the resounding speech that motivates and stirs a nation to the drum beat of war.
He’s reading a script written by someone else…

from: MikeDillard.net » The Personal Blog Of Mike Dillard

[wachusettgirl]

Originally Posted by daj

Some of you are so unaware...
You do realize McCain and Obama don't write their own speeches in most cases....infact most of Obama's speeches have been plagarized.

Who writes Obama’s speeches? [WTF!?] « José Miguel’s Weblog


So who's really in control? Congress and copywriters....

Read This to see what kind of programming is going on in the media regarding this election, there is no unbiased sources...

CNN Mind Control Tactics
Written by: Mike Dillard

from: MikeDillard.net » The Personal Blog Of Mike Dillard

Wow, talk about using scare tactics to make people less trusting and more fearful than ever. CNN, or any other form of media coverage doesn't control my mind, I have the ability to see when a report has a biased slant to it, and take from it what I will. And does it honestly come as a surprise that political candidates use professional speechwriters? I've watched several live interviews with Obama and been impressed.

[daj]

It's not about using fear, it's about waking people up to the fact that it's all pre-planned who's going to win. We don't live in a democracy, we never have. The mind control is deep here.

I don't vote. Will never vote. I take no sides. I am my own president. I don't think people understand that when they vote for something, or someone they give up their own power. A big loosh exchange happens between you and the person you vote for. I refuse to give my energy to Obama, McCain, Ron Paul, or Bob Barr. More people should refuse to vote, and become righteous in their own power. That's when a difference will finally be made.

[wachusettgirl]

Originally Posted by daj

It's not about using fear, it's about waking people up to the fact that it's all pre-planned who's going to win. We don't live in a democracy, we never have. The mind control is deep here.

I don't vote. Will never vote. I take no sides. I am my own president. I don't think people understand that when they vote for something, or someone they give up their own power. A big loosh exchange happens between you and the person you vote for. I refuse to give my energy to Obama, McCain, Ron Paul, or Bob Barr. More people should refuse to vote, and become righteous in their own power. That's when a difference will finally be made.

I respect that as your choice, but I'm choosing to vote. One of these men will be elected as the next US president, and I want to excercise my right to have a say in who that will be. As far as the mind control goes, I choose also not to worry about that, so as to not bring it into my universe. I believe that I have free will, and nobody can control my mind unless I allow it.

[Erin Pavlina]

I read this on someone's signature over at mothering.com.

"I'd rather vote for what I want and not get it than vote for what I don't want and get lots of it."

Vote for what you want. Don't choose the lesser of two evils. If you're really jazzed about someone, vote for them. If not, don't vote for them.

[Claradonna]

If you don't put a tiny bit of energy into selecting people to administrate the country, where will your water come from? Your city parks? Your schools?


Turning your back on democracy and politics isn't the answer.
You are living under the administration of this institution no matter whether you vote or not. If you don't vote, you are giving up power to others to choose for you.

Choosing the best available IS, as is knowing that as the country moves forward, the whole of consciousness will be raised, including eventually that of the very body from which the future leaders will come.

[kismet]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

Think of free will and destiny like a map. You have a destination, but many roads will take you there. Some are shorter, others more scenic, some roads are fraught with danger and road hazards. But eventually, you reach your destination. Broken or intact, in short order or in a long period of time, happy or sad.... you still reach it. How you get there is up to you. Where you go is predetermined, HOWEVER, even your destination can be changed using free will. Perhaps you decide you don't want to get to X-city. You can alter your destination.

But life and therefore destiny is not about destinations. Life is a series of experiences, there is no destination. Therefore all of those roads and experiences must be part of the destiny, destined to go down certain roads and experience certain experiences. Each road absolutely alters completely where it leads and what roads it crosses. A "destination" implies that you stop moving and are no longer on a path. You have "arrived" and are not going anywhere else. Change is the natural order and law of things. Therefore isn't every thought and smallest action guided by this hand of fate.

Different roads absolutely alter your experiences and where you go and who you go with. The tinniest things can alter it. Often you don't even know "x-city" is a possibility, let alone consciously decide against it. Most people are so self-destructive and get in their own way from what they want and where they want to go that they never get there, or destroy what they already have. And fate isn't about just where you go, but what you've already been dealt. Is it not your fate if you have a mental illness(s) to have that.

I'm starting to believe either I have no real control at all, and that feeling of "choice" is just an illusion. That we're kind of pre-programmed from the beginning. It's already proven how predictable people and animals are to react and their feelings and behavior based on the most basic inborn nature and outside stimulus that triggers it. We react to this pre-wiring, we don't create it. So, it's not far off to think if there even is a "spiritual" component and these things are decided and programmed in before birth, that we would be just as much a puppet to that as we are to our physical genes and expressions. On the other hand, perhaps it's all just random - a probabilistic algorithm.

[daj]

YouTube - Björk - Declare Independence Bjork - Declare Independence

Everyone should watch that over & over again!


Why should anyone have any control over water? Water should be free for all. There's many places to get free water, they might not be as clean as they use to be, but you can use a filtering mechanism.

Why should anyone have control over the earth's land. We don't own it. We have no right to call it our own, and destroy it. City Parks = tamed nature. I rather see it wild and free.

Schools? Schools are just mind-control/brainwashing tools to make you forget who you really are. The smartest people I've met never graduated or went to school.

There's many groups of people in other countries who aren't governed by a governmental system. They live life freely how they've been accustomed too or how they want too. Why can't more people find their own power, and raise their own flag?

Why do people keep on depending on some centralized government to make rules for them?
Especially now when most of us see the ******** that it all is.

Originally Posted by Claradonna

If you don't put a tiny bit of energy into selecting people to administrate the country, where will your water come from? Your city parks? Your schools?


Turning your back on democracy and politics isn't the answer.
You are living under the administration of this institution no matter whether you vote or not. If you don't vote, you are giving up power to others to choose for you.

Choosing the best available IS, as is knowing that as the country moves forward, the whole of consciousness will be raised, including eventually that of the very body from which the future leaders will come.

[Eric Revelin]

Because most people aren't ready to take full responsibility for themselves. And when they are, will government disappear? No. For society to exist there must be order. Even in order-by-choice Anarchy you have government, the difference is that there is no central entity and power is spread equally amongst all people.

Present that idea and listen to what people say against it. They'll talk about how religious conservatives will ruin things if they're given free reign. The religious conservatives talk about how immorality will run rampant. Those concerned about the underprivileged will talk about how they'll be trampled upon in a world without a central government.

Let's break it down:

1. People are afraid of each other.
2. People are afraid of the government, but the government places limits on the people that scare them more than it does.
3. People want to be protected from being screwed over, and they want a security blanket if they're put into a position where they cannot fend for themselves.

The permanent solution would be for us to grow up. That is to say, we'd need to start treating each other with respect. Religious conservatives and liberal non-believers (I know it's an oversimplification, but go with it) would have to be able to discuss their issues with each other without raising their voices or threatening to force their views on each other (while justifying it with, "they started it!"). We would have to be willing to share our resources instead of hording them, and we'd have to quell greed and deception as soon as they reared their ugly heads without resorting to force or fear. We'd also have to work together toward alleviating poverty and helping those who can't help themselves instead of relying on charities and government hand-outs.

This kind of world can exist but, due to the way we think, it can't happen right now. Government is the imperfect solution. It's the entity that does as much harm as it does good. It takes from the poor and gives to the rich, then it offers the poor welfare and food stamps. Without government we would risk chaos (at least in the short term).

The truth is that government is an illusion. By and large no one can really force us to do anything. Bosses have no power; if factory workers banded together, fired their employer and took over the operation themselves there's not much the company's CEO could do about it. Legally the owner could try to fight them, but if it started happening in other factories and occurred on a large enough scale the legal system wouldn't be able to stop it.

As an Anarchist at heart, I see it this way: we're living in an order-by-choice world. All government is illusory. Government is a psychological comfort or the shadowy menace that haunts our dreams, but either way it exists only because we think it does, and the illusion continues because we consent to it.

For this to change first we must imagine a world wherein the individual is intelligent and empowered, then we must enable these visionaries to snap their strings as we cut our own alongside them.

The average person would probably say they're smart, but more often than not they don't really believe they are. If they believe it, they still feel powerless overall. They don't know how to translate their gifts to action. They can dream but they can't paint the landscape of the real world with what they see in their minds. They're capable of it, but we're still in the dark ages. This is going to take time.

We've got our work cut out for us. I say look at government as the catalyst for change. Not because it'll change, because I don't think it will. If government were truly noble it would work toward the day when it wasn't needed anymore but it clearly desires its own survival. No, it's a catalyst for shaking people out of their apathy. If daddy government won't take care of us we're gonna have to stand on our own two feet eventually. If a miracle happens and it does do noble things, then it serves as a teacher and an inspiration.

The question isn't whether or not we should have government or whether we shouldn't, or whether we should vote for Obama or McCain as the next president. The real question is how we'll find and utilize the opportunities presented by whichever scenario occurs.

[desertrat]

When I did a search for my old thread on loosh , I found this. When dji used the word loosh did he mean the same loosh energy that Robert Monroe talked about in his book ? Was he saying when we vote for some one we give them loosh energy ? desert rat

[desertrat]

I meant Daj when I said dji , sory Daj .

[Weena]

I remember seeing a show with a Chinese astrologer/psychic who was asked who was going to win and he had said Obama would win. Spot on.