The Dangers of Astral Projection (Blog)

[Erin Pavlina]

StellaBlue, you don't want to be "taken" at the mercy of unseen forces. Certainly not while driving!

[StellaBlue]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

StellaBlue, you don't want to be "taken" at the mercy of unseen forces. Certainly not while driving!

Well, I'm not sure that's exactly what is happening. I guess maybe I worded it wrong. I just wasn't sure how to explain it. It just seems to happen automatically when I focus hard on something or relax/rest/meditate. It is probably just something I will learn more about with time, or... maybe I am just nuts. That's why I don't tell anyone about these things

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

How frequently do I astral project?
Not nearly as often as I used to. During my teen years I was projecting as much as 3 or 4 times per week. I had some serious business out there at the time. In my 20's I would do it like 3 times a month maybe. Now, with 2 kids and working full time and spending so much time in the ether during the day, I'm definitely more interested in resting at night and not going out as often. What happens now is that I project when called (long story that I will share in another blog entry probably), I project when something is up with my kids who psychically call me (another long story I should probably blog about), and there are a couple of other reasons I'll go out that I'm not ready to explore publicly yet. To summarize, maybe once a month, sometimes twice a week. Depends on what's happening.

Do I still get the shaking/tingling?
Yes, every time. But it goes much faster now. I mean, I can separate much faster. I can also block it if it's happening and I don't feel like participating.

Do I ever talk to the demons and find out what they really want?
Yes, I used to do that a lot, back in the teen years. I could write a book about that (and did actually but didn't publish it and am thinking about it still). I don't see many demons now because I avoid them. But occasionally one will come around and I don't spend much time in conversation.

Great questions. Keep em comin!

Can I put a drawing in another room and have you project and be able to tell me what the drawing is of?

[Erin Pavlina]

That's a good standard test. That may have worked well in my hey day but I don't think I could do it now.

And the other thing is that if you slip into the astral plane you won't see the paper. If you're just out of body or having a mental projection you might.

[ConnorM]

I am only 13 and I have been trying to do this for awhile.
I was introduced to this by my scout leader, Michael Banner (He has been doing it since he was 11)

My question is..

Is it possible for you to be.. "turned" into one of the astral beings?

(i.e Vampire's, Demon's.. etc..)

[Erin Pavlina]

No, ConnorM, wrong genus.

[ConnorM]

That's good. I was scared in case I managed to project and then randomly got turned into a baddie.


I think I am actually getting close to doing it..
This week I have been waking up around 4 in the morning being unable to go back to sleep, because whenever I closed my eyes I would hear the sound you hear when you yawn (The tensing sound) and then get the feeling of my face being pulled to the side. o_o;


Any insight?

[Niamh]

Icky.. Nu Uh! I've gotten to the point of standing next to my body... but I often get confused with the whole "you don't need to open *those* eyes to see here". And I open my body's eyes.. ta da, I'm awake.

I don't think I'd considered the whole "demons visiting your body" thing though... I thought you would be pulled back to your body if anything went near. Nu Uh!! I don't think I'll try again until I fight off this new-found fear.

Demons! with my body! while I'm not there?! Nope... nonono not letting that happen.. hmph

[supertom]

how often do you guys go astral?? This sure beats sleeping i wanna do it every night !!!

[missmaria73]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

How frequently do I astral project?
Not nearly as often as I used to. During my teen years I was projecting as much as 3 or 4 times per week. I had some serious business out there at the time. In my 20's I would do it like 3 times a month maybe. Now, with 2 kids and working full time and spending so much time in the ether during the day, I'm definitely more interested in resting at night and not going out as often. What happens now is that I project when called (long story that I will share in another blog entry probably), I project when something is up with my kids who psychically call me (another long story I should probably blog about), and there are a couple of other reasons I'll go out that I'm not ready to explore publicly yet. To summarize, maybe once a month, sometimes twice a week. Depends on what's happening.

Do I still get the shaking/tingling?
Yes, every time. But it goes much faster now. I mean, I can separate much faster. I can also block it if it's happening and I don't feel like participating.

Do I ever talk to the demons and find out what they really want?
Yes, I used to do that a lot, back in the teen years. I could write a book about that (and did actually but didn't publish it and am thinking about it still). I don't see many demons now because I avoid them. But occasionally one will come around and I don't spend much time in conversation.

Great questions. Keep em comin!

Hi Erin, when I was eighteen years old (now 35) I had a single experience which scared the living daylights out of me. I can still remember the freaked out, out of control, fear reaction I had to the whole thing whence it occurred, just like it was yesterday. I have long wondered if that experience was what other people call "astral projection'. I'll give you a brief run down on what happened: I was laying down on a double bed with my partner sleeping next to me. I do recall thinking that I needed to go to the bathroom a second prior to drifting off (to sleep or someother conscious state). I then sat up, turned to the side of the bed, stood up, walked through to ensuites bathroom, stood near the toilet facility, lifted my hands to reach for my button on my jeans and my hands went straight through, there was no 'body' there at all, I immediately got absolutely petrified and then I zapped faster than lightening back into my body. I opened my physical eyes (although consciously I was already awake), felt a little disconnected from my body for aabout half a minute then got up and had to go have a rather large glass of water to wash the whole experience down with.
All I can say is, that was the most freakiest feeling ~ I was on completely unfamiliar territory which I didn't know how to control. ever since that experience, the experience of death scares me alot. I wonder if after I leave my body through death am I going to have that scarey feeling again.
Anyways, I'm wondering if you could tell me if that experience is what you describe as an 'astral projection'? And I'd like to try to get past this fear I have of death, which has come from that experience many years ago ~ any helpful thoughts or suggestions that I may be able to think about to assist me with working past that fear?

[Erin Pavlina]

You probably had a spontaneous out of body experience. It happens.

When you die you won't be alone. Either your deceased loved ones or an angel will come and greet you and help you make the transition. The only caveat to that is sometimes when people die instantly and unexpectedly it can take a short while for this process to be initiated.

[missmaria73]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

You probably had a spontaneous out of body experience. It happens.

When you die you won't be alone. Either your deceased loved ones or an angel will come and greet you and help you make the transition. The only caveat to that is sometimes when people die instantly and unexpectedly it can take a short while for this process to be initiated.

Thanks Erin, that was helpful. Have a great weekend. Maria.

[crazzymikey]

Hey,

A while back and in the past I have had what I thought to be extremely vivid sex dreams - I now realise that they were actually astral sex. I don't normally remember astral projecting but these incidents were extremely vivid and real, I knew what was happening as it happened just like in real life. They were a memory the next day not a dream.

Anyways I am concerned over what it was. I had the most amazing sex ever and it was passionate, sensual and encompassing. I couln't see the person I was with, it was more the sensation and kinda body parts/silhouttes. At the same time it was in my bed - I didnt go anywhere. Whom ever I was with must have come to me. I read all these things about demons and uncubi on here. I don't like the idea of having my energy taken or being violated by a sinister being. Being a gay guy it was definitley a man/male spirit that I was with. Is it possible it was someone I knew? or a spirit from a past life? a guide? or a demon? or a incubi? How can I tell? If I want to stop it - how would I do that? if its a good spirit how do I get them back? lol.

The whole annoymous sex thing seems more on the demon side to me? it was passionate sex and nothing else.

Although I wanted more and it was not totally unwanted, I don't think I could have stopped it, I felt I was being encompassed by something bigger than me, it was so seductive, it over powered me.

Can anyone help shed some light on this for me please?

[ming]

A few years ago I had a go at astral projection and all I achieved was my body shaking exactly like an airplane taking off it was so scary that I came off it straight away. Now reading your posts I can see that it was somehow astral projection but at the time I couldn't understand it and it felt like I was having a heart attack.

[HeadofTheVector]

Originally Posted by crazzymikey

Hey,

A while back and in the past I have had what I thought to be extremely vivid sex dreams - I now realise that they were actually astral sex. I don't normally remember astral projecting but these incidents were extremely vivid and real, I knew what was happening as it happened just like in real life. They were a memory the next day not a dream.

Anyways I am concerned over what it was. I had the most amazing sex ever and it was passionate, sensual and encompassing. I couln't see the person I was with, it was more the sensation and kinda body parts/silhouttes. At the same time it was in my bed - I didnt go anywhere. Whom ever I was with must have come to me. I read all these things about demons and uncubi on here. I don't like the idea of having my energy taken or being violated by a sinister being. Being a gay guy it was definitley a man/male spirit that I was with. Is it possible it was someone I knew? or a spirit from a past life? a guide? or a demon? or a incubi? How can I tell? If I want to stop it - how would I do that? if its a good spirit how do I get them back? lol.

The whole annoymous sex thing seems more on the demon side to me? it was passionate sex and nothing else.

Although I wanted more and it was not totally unwanted, I don't think I could have stopped it, I felt I was being encompassed by something bigger than me, it was so seductive, it over powered me.

Can anyone help shed some light on this for me please?

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Although the above post is an older one (Feb. '09), I felt compelled to address it since the phenomena that the writer describes is something I, too, have experienced and something I live in dread of having happen again:

I think I know what you are describing. It has happened to me, too, and it is disturbing but arousing all the same. I think the "distress" part can be attributed to a sense of guilt on the part of the "victim," or to a suspicion that this entity might be far from benign. It is anyone's guess as to the identify of this drop-in visitor. It could be someone you literally DO know. It seems more likely that it would not be someone known to you.

If this was "astral sex," it does not seem as though you were the astral traveler. Indeed, I would deduce that you were simply a target or, in more sinister terms, the victim.

First of all, I do not think sexual gratification while one is sleeping is always brought about by supernatural presences. Sometimes the release of sexual tension is just that: the body's way of bringing about release while asleep. To read articles that attribute these nocturnal discharges to "spirits" strikes me as nonsensical. I wish I could say the same for these other more "lucid" incidents, however, such as the one that happened to you.

With the recent explosion of interest in the supernatural, not to mention all sorts of other allusions to the spirit world in the media and on the 'net, we have incited a virtual ghost storm.

A clue (from my perspective, anyway) to the intentions of this invisible force that came upon you is in the way you described its presence as being bigger than you and overpowering. The sensations you felt really made sense because "sex" with one of these dark forces does not actually include penetration, although I have no doubt that once the spirit procures enough human sustenance via energy leeching, the sexual act will be that much closer to the real thing.

I believe you know in your heart that this force that overcame you was more sinister - and even malicious - than anything else.

As a matter of fact, I will go so far as to say that we humans are being attacked, "raped," tortured while we sleep, yanked from our bodies in the middle of the night, spied on, etc., at the whim of any number of invisible entities. Take your pick; ghosts, demons, astral projectors and "mystic travelers," earth-bound spirits, etc. The ones that don't ascend to higher states of consciousness simply prowl around on the earthly plane doing what they do best: seducing or tormenting their prey in exchange for another hit of "life force." Apparently these entities DO have physical appetites despite their lack of physical bodies.

Perhaps I'm on the wrong forum for not suggesting to you that you take up your amulets and charms in order to banish this seductive spirit. Rather, my advice would be to to strictly discourage this type of carnal indulgence, the sooner the better. A prayer to the One who will be there for you always is, I think, the only real solution along with abstinence. It is tempting sometimes to submit to the spirit's (or soul traveler)'s seductions, but for a few moments of pseudo- sex, it is not worth the price you will ultimately pay.

The scenario you have described (and one in which I, too, have engaged) might not be so different, in the long run, from selling your soul to the devil. Good luck.