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I can't remember, but did they ever find out who was the father of her baby?

That's amazing, though. I wouldn't doubt he would do that, either.
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Yeah Larry Birkhead was determined to be the baby's biological father.
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Well, I think I might have... The great guitarist Dimebag Darrell from the band Pantera, I love that guy and the work he did, he played such emotive and unique solos. He was shot and killed in 2004 I think..

A few years ago when I was 15-16 back when my passion for guitar was more ignited, I had a dream where I was talking on the phone with him in some strange house, I could hardly believe it, the only thing I managed to ask him was "What is your favorite song to play?" to which I got the answer "Cat Scratch Fever" which I'm not 100% sure if I had known that Pantera had covered that song (it was by Ted Nugent I think).

Anyways, fast forward a year, another high passion time, when I finally got a new guitar, it was equipped with a tremolo (bar to bend the strings with) like Dime used and I was super hyped about it. I had another dream where he was in my room playing it O_O, talking about his first and second guitar.. He told me he liked it, and that's about all I remember.

He's still one of my favorite players but I can't recall any more dreams about him.. I'd like to think he was actually visiting me..
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Dear Ms Pavlina, If you receive anymore messages from Anna Nicole Smith please share them. I have a blog about her and there are many people who support her mother Virgie Arthur in wanting the person responsible for her death and the death of her son Daniel held accountable.

Her "lawyer" Howard K. Stern is suing Houston Texas billionaire attorney John O'Quinn hoping for a hand out and also Rita Cosby for her book "Blonde Ambition".

Virgie Arthur is suing Howard and others including bloggers for defamation. It is a mess. We just want justice for Anna Nicole and Daniel. One current issue of discussion is would Anna and Daniel want their current resting places to be in the Bahamas where no family or friends can honor them? There are tons of issues, that is just one of them. Thank you for sharing your dream. A friend of mine picked up your blog in a Google Alert.
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Anna Nicole Smith used the word "integral"?

Yes, I can see where someone who operated in broadcast mode in the human game would also be in broadcast in an afterlife. Peter Sellers showed up for me and my roommate the night he died, after all.

I wonder if the addiction to mass recognition and the illusion of worth from public adulation gets carried over with you as a sort of residual gunk in the afterlife.
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Dear Ms Pavlina, If you receive anymore messages from Anna Nicole Smith please share them. I have a blog about her and there are many people who support her mother Virgie Arthur in wanting the person responsible for her death and the death of her son Daniel held accountable.

Her "lawyer" Howard K. Stern is suing Houston Texas billionaire attorney John O'Quinn hoping for a hand out and also Rita Cosby for her book "Blonde Ambition".

Virgie Arthur is suing Howard and others including bloggers for defamation. It is a mess. We just want justice for Anna Nicole and Daniel. One current issue of discussion is would Anna and Daniel want their current resting places to be in the Bahamas where no family or friends can honor them? There are tons of issues, that is just one of them. Thank you for sharing your dream. A friend of mine picked up your blog in a Google Alert.
It would be so great to hear more about this. So much has been discovered since her death.
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Erin,

How does one discern whether a dream involves communication from non-physical entities, or if it is "just a dream"?

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Anna Nicole Smith used the word "integral"?

Yes, I can see where someone who operated in broadcast mode in the human game would also be in broadcast in an afterlife. Peter Sellers showed up for me and my roommate the night he died, after all.

I wonder if the addiction to mass recognition and the illusion of worth from public adulation gets carried over with you as a sort of residual gunk in the afterlife.
Wouldn't using the word "integral" be Ms Pavlina paraphrasing?
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I never had Anna Nicole come to me in a dream, but I believe Howard K. Stern was conditioning her mind with a cocktail of drugs & mind control techniques to become very submissive & hypnotized so she would follow his commands. I believe that's why Anna Nicole was out of it most of the time in the public eye. Marilyn Monroe was another death due to CIA mind-control and a cocktail of drugs. Interesting how Anna Nicole was also viewed as, "the marilyn monroe" of our times. Footage was shown on youtube and various news sources of Howard using mind-control techniques on her:

YouTube - Anna Nicole Wacked Out Of Her Mind In Clown Makeup!


For some reason I feel there's a major connection between the clown makeup Anna Nicole was wearing in the footage of her above, and Heath Ledger's role in the "Dark Knight" which ultimately killed him. I also feel Britney Spears was having the same mind-control issues with that Sam Lutfi guy who her parents finally got a restraining order on so he isn't around, he was using the same mind control techniques on her as well by giving her a cocktail of meds which made her act out like she was doing.

Article about that:
Britney Spears Drugged By Sam Lutfi, Parents Allege - News Story | Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV News





Here's some interesting videos about mind-control and celebrities(which tie into the above):
YouTube - Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control
YouTube - Britney Spears Breaks her Mind Control Conditioning
YouTube - Madonna & Britney Spears Kabbalah Worship

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Algernon, it's not always easy, but there is a distinct and different quality to a communication with deceased people dream than there is in your regular "can't-remember-my-locker-combination" dreams. Experience with many dreamscapes will help you begin to discern what kind of dream you're having.

Deceased people very often use dreams to connect with the living. It's the perfect middle ground, where you can receive their energy and they can find you.


Angela, I don't think her life as a celebrity figured in to her wanting justice. When I do readings I often encounter people who were murdered and are hanging around until they receive justice. However, Anna Nicole is more likely to get picked up by mediums because of her recognizability, so that's very true.

When I encountered Anna Nicole she seemed really sad, frustrated, and angry. I felt really sorry for her.
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So, you think that people who were "wronged" in life seek the human kind of justice, as in the other person who murdered them being brought to legal comeuppance? I would have thought that a person who had passed on (the Wrongee) would trust that the Wronger would meet with a higher sort of justice than can be meted out in the human game.

Unless the justice is not for the Wrongee, but rather, the Wrongee is giving a "gift" of sorts to the left-behinds? Except that it seems that the Dead Wrongees often have an awful lot of bad feeling -- like anger and indignation. It seems like it's more of "Me!" kind of justice. I wouldn't think that the Wronger being brought to human-style justice would bring any real sense of satisfaction or fulfillment.

Maybe such Wrongees are really just looking or help in letting go?
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Algernon, it's not always easy, but there is a distinct and different quality to a communication with deceased people dream than there is in your regular "can't-remember-my-locker-combination" dreams. Experience with many dreamscapes will help you begin to discern what kind of dream you're having.

Deceased people very often use dreams to connect with the living. It's the perfect middle ground, where you can receive their energy and they can find you.


Angela, I don't think her life as a celebrity figured in to her wanting justice. When I do readings I often encounter people who were murdered and are hanging around until they receive justice. However, Anna Nicole is more likely to get picked up by mediums because of her recognizability, so that's very true.

When I encountered Anna Nicole she seemed really sad, frustrated, and angry. I felt really sorry for her.

Hi Erin, thank you so much for sharing this with us. We know what she told you to be true. What can we do to help her get justice??? Is there anything else you can share??? Did she mention anything about her Son??? I know she is mad because everyone is being so very mean to her mom.
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Hi everybody, I'm new here and I don't know a thing about the para normal but I do believe that Anna is so very sad and trapped by the evil deeds done by Howard Stern. Poor Daniel too, he was so innocent of all the dark entities surrounding his life since Stern entered. It makes me sad to think Anna is a troubled spirit. I'm so very interested in this case and would like to see both of their spirits at rest.
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Thank you so very much.
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Wow, I didn't know that there were people out there who believe Howard was responsible for Anna Nicole's and Daniel's deaths. When I had the communication I quietly filed it away as not being something I could do anything about. I was unaware of any theories floating around that jived with Anna's account to me.

Thank you and welcome to the new posters here on the forums. I was contacted by someone close to Anna's mom so I'll be discussing what I know with her shortly. If anything comes of it, I'll post or blog about it.
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Angela, oh you bet some of the deceased people hang around seeking justice. First of all, if there is someone in their life who is still in danger they will want to warn and help the person before they are hurt too. Secondly, remember there are varying levels of crossing over, and some spirits are very attached to their earthly existence. We're not talking about the 90 year old grandmother who dies peacefully in her sleep; usually this is murder, accident, and sometimes suicide.

Also, you've got the creation karmic debt. Sometimes the dead person doesn't want to have to "work it out" in the next life with their murderer. Better justice should be done in the life in which it occured.

On the other hand, I'm sure there are spirits out there who are murdered and can forgive easily, let go, cross over, and move on without waiting to see human justice.
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Wow, I didn't know that there were people out there who believe Howard was responsible for Anna Nicole's and Daniel's deaths. When I had the communication I quietly filed it away as not being something I could do anything about. I was unaware of any theories floating around that jived with Anna's account to me.

Thank you and welcome to the new posters here on the forums. I was contacted by someone close to Anna's mom so I'll be discussing what I know with her shortly. If anything comes of it, I'll post or blog about it.

Hi Erin, yes there are quite a lot of us. There are so many unanswered questions about BOTH murders. We have come to our beliefs based on everything he has done, and the evidence. Is there any way for you to contact Anna??? To get more information??? Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
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Interesting post. I was asking myself this very same question a few days ago (if Erin ever got contacted by deceased celebrities). And I was asking myself this question because I had a dream with Anna (who, I must admit, I don't know much about). I dreamed she was distraught, and that she was pulling a dark coffin through the snow into a huge lake (river?). It was all so very cold, but she was too desperate to notice it. It was a strange dream. And this was a strange coincidence. I guess my question is answered now.
I hope she finds peace soon enough.
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Interesting post. I was asking myself this very same question a few days ago (if Erin ever got contacted by deceased celebrities). And I was asking myself this question because I had a dream with Anna (who, I must admit, I don't know much about). I dreamed she was distraught, and that she was pulling a dark coffin through the snow into a huge lake (river?). It was all so very cold, but she was too desperate to notice it. It was a strange dream. And this was a strange coincidence. I guess my question is answered now.
I hope she finds peace soon enough.
Wow, thank you so much for sharing that. I am afraid, neither she nor her son can get any peace without JUSTICE.
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There has been contact between me and Anna's mother's "camp" for lack of a better word. I don't want to say too much since apparently there is an ongoing investigation, but a plan is in place to see if I can help the situation at all. We'll see.
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There has been contact between me and Anna's mother's "camp" for lack of a better word. I don't want to say too much since apparently there is an ongoing investigation, but a plan is in place to see if I can help the situation at all. We'll see.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. God Bless you. This is the best news I've heard in a long while.
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There has been contact between me and Anna's mother's "camp" for lack of a better word. I don't want to say too much since apparently there is an ongoing investigation, but a plan is in place to see if I can help the situation at all. We'll see.
Wonderful. God bless you and all of us who want to help those poor lost souls. I feel in my heart they are lost and yearning to rest in peace.
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There has been contact between me and Anna's mother's "camp" for lack of a better word. I don't want to say too much since apparently there is an ongoing investigation, but a plan is in place to see if I can help the situation at all. We'll see.
OH that would be so wonderful. Thank YOU !
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There has been contact between me and Anna's mother's "camp" for lack of a better word. I don't want to say too much since apparently there is an ongoing investigation, but a plan is in place to see if I can help the situation at all. We'll see.

Hello Erin, I've been trying to get registered all day! Thank you for blogging about your contact with Anna. I know many who are fighting with Anna's mother for Justice in the murder of Anna and Daniel have already posted here. Maybe you will be able to achieve with your contact with her and/or Danny what we have been able to do in nearly 2 years, and that is give us enough information to make law enforcement acknowledge all the smoking guns and reopen the investigation into their deaths, and to ultimately bring them home to the United States, where they both yearn to be, IMO
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Unless Anna and Daniel were physically forced to take the drugs, I don't see how their deaths would be legally considered murders. "Facilitation of someone's self-destruction" is a very difficult charge to prove.

All in all, this is a tawdry affair, and I don't necessarily see Anna as a victim.

In fact, just because she is broadcasting a message with a certain slant, does that necessarily mean it's true?
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I don't know the whole story, admittedly. I just know what I've seen on TV about the case & have read online. The mind-control video of Anna wearing clown makeup and acting like a completely different personality at the hands of Howard, while he just laughs and sends her commands is quite appalling.
Also the fact that Howard gave Anna & her son Daniel the drugs/meds they were on, makes him an "enabler". I think in a court of law it would come down to intent, in a case like this, and from my standpoint Howard's looks to be of a criminal nature.



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Unless Anna and Daniel were physically forced to take the drugs, I don't see how their deaths would be legally considered murders. "Facilitation of someone's self-destruction" is very difficult charge to prove.

All in all, this is a tawdry affair, and I don't necessarily see Anna as a victim.

In fact, just because she is broadcasting a message with a certain slant, does that necessarily mean it's true?
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I am afraid, neither she nor her son can get any peace without JUSTICE.
I just don't get this. I can understand why the LIVING would have a difficult time achieving peace without some kind of human justice. But it seems to me that if it's the dead you're worried about, then Erin's efforts would be more wisely placed on helping them let go of an illusionary "need" for human justice, and move on to a higher consciousness. When you're dead, peace doesn't depend on earth-bound circumstances.

Actually, the same could be said of the living, too.
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The living and the dead are bound by the same laws of karma, so I can understand why a murdered soul would want some sort of human justice.
As Erin said, if a murdered soul can help to bring about justice while they're still in the Ether, that may help to resolve some of the karma of the event, then there is less karma to resolve in the lifetimes that follow.
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