How many souls?

[Dan.Linehan]

How many souls are there waiting to incarnate? We already have almost 7 billion and they just keep coming. That's not even counting animals.

Is there a finite number of souls? Or does each soul incarnation (or life) just represent certain specific aspects / merely a piece of a more complex entity?

[Michelle]

This leads me to wonder whether a soul can inhabit more than one body at a time... perhaps we are all living a few lives at once?

[free spirit]

That's assuming Earth is the only time and place souls can reincarnate to, which to me seems highly inplausable, if reincarnation exists, which I believe it does.

I would imagine the only waiting that happens is a souls time to decide, what, where and why they would choose to incarnate.

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

How many souls are there waiting to incarnate?

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[coLLege kid07]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

How many souls are there waiting to incarnate? We already have almost 7 billion and they just keep coming. That's not even counting animals.

Is there a finite number of souls? Or does each soul incarnation (or life) just represent certain specific aspects / merely a piece of a more complex entity?

Not sure if on topic...but would souls be able to reincarnate as things that aren't human. Say if I died today and then reincarnated back as a parrot...is that possible?

I'd say yes bit kind of interesting to think about.

[StellaBlue]

Originally Posted by coLLege kid07

Not sure if on topic...but would souls be able to reincarnate as things that aren't human. Say if I died today and then reincarnated back as a parrot...is that possible?

I'd say yes bit kind of interesting to think about.

I think so. I think plants as well. Trees most certainly speak to me. Try listening

I don't really think we can comprehend the number of souls there are (especially with regards to what Free Spirit said about time and place). We think too logically...

[Calimero]

Those who believe in reincarnation believe that you can reincarnate as plants or animals as well.
Now since humans are on earth, many other species have disappeared. So no way that souls can reincarnate into species that are not on earth anymore.
So a part of the souls will probably chose to reincarnate into a human body as the conditions to live for many other species are getting worse to survive.
Now reincarnating into a human body means that again the numbers of other species will start to drop. So it is about time that those souls that reincarnate into human bodies start to remember what they came for.

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Calimero

Those who believe in reincarnation believe that you can reincarnate as plants or animals as well.
Now since humans are on earth, many other species have disappeared. So no way that souls can reincarnate into species that are not on earth anymore.
So a part of the souls will probably chose to reincarnate into a human body as the conditions to live for many other species are getting worse to survive.
Now reincarnating into a human body means that again the numbers of other species will start to drop. So it is about time that those souls that reincarnate into human bodies start to remember what they came for.

I don't think all of them believe in reincarnation into plants.

[Calimero]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1

I don't think all of them believe in reincarnation into plants.

I am sorry. You are right. I had to say, those people I met that believe in reincarnation, all of them believed that.....
Thanks for letting me see my mistake.

[pianoperformer]

A mole of souls.

[amixa]

Originally Posted by Calimero

Those who believe in reincarnation believe that you can reincarnate as plants or animals as well.
Now since humans are on earth, many other species have disappeared. So no way that souls can reincarnate into species that are not on earth anymore.
So a part of the souls will probably chose to reincarnate into a human body as the conditions to live for many other species are getting worse to survive.
Now reincarnating into a human body means that again the numbers of other species will start to drop. So it is about time that those souls that reincarnate into human bodies start to remember what they came for.

yeah i too thought like this cause if energy is never destroyed.. where are all the 'energy' souls disappearing to? they must be becoming humans as well. or something to that effect. humans.. or insects. you can never have enough of those :P

god imagine if it was like catholicism. you have a soul, you're born.. you die you go to heaven/hell.. so then where are all these new souls coming from? it never made any logical sense to me.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

How many souls are there waiting to incarnate? We already have almost 7 billion and they just keep coming. That's not even counting animals.

Is there a finite number of souls? Or does each soul incarnation (or life) just represent certain specific aspects / merely a piece of a more complex entity?

I think the latter idea is closer to the truth. There is no fixed number of souls. There are an infinite number of facets to the one soul. None of the facets are identical, yet they are all part of the same diamond.

Originally Posted by Michelle

This leads me to wonder whether a soul can inhabit more than one body at a time... perhaps we are all living a few lives at once?

I would say yes to the idea that souls can inhabit multiple bodies at once, but no to us all doing it. Some souls don't like, or simply are not evolved enough, to divide their soul energy amongst multiple bodies.

Originally Posted by free spirit

That's assuming Earth is the only time and place souls can reincarnate to, which to me seems highly inplausable, if reincarnation exists, which I believe it does.

I would imagine the only waiting that happens is a souls time to decide, what, where and why they would choose to incarnate.

Not only can souls incarnate are multiple worlds, there are also completely alternate dimensions and realities a soul can incarnate into, depending on the experiences they wish to have. In addition, time does not exist in the "spirit world" and they may incarnate into "past time" or "future time". But don't worry, their actions in these parallel foci do not affect the history of the present.

Originally Posted by coLLege kid07

Not sure if on topic...but would souls be able to reincarnate as things that aren't human. Say if I died today and then reincarnated back as a parrot...is that possible?

I'd say yes bit kind of interesting to think about.

In my opinion, they "could", but they wouldn't choose to. Once your consciousness evolves to a certain complexity, it incarnates in bodies able to accommodate the complexities of that state of consciousness. Once you've evolved beyond the animal's mental complexity, you wouldn't normally reincarnate back to the more simple life form. Not only that, but if a more complex soul pattern incarnated into a less complex form, the presence of the consciousness in that body would actually cause its genetics to change (over a long period of time), and evolve to accommodate the new energy. This is where the human form came from -- complex soul patterns incarnating in ape/monkey bodies, which caused them to accommodate to that complexity.

Originally Posted by amixa

yeah i too thought like this cause if energy is never destroyed.. where are all the 'energy' souls disappearing to? they must be becoming humans as well. or something to that effect. humans.. or insects. you can never have enough of those :P

god imagine if it was like catholicism. you have a soul, you're born.. you die you go to heaven/hell.. so then where are all these new souls coming from? it never made any logical sense to me.

Where did they come in the first place? That's the real question. There has never been nothing, and existence has always been absolute. The consciousness that is has always been and the forms that exist are energy aspects that occasionally choose the experience of duality or individuality. As "old souls" graduate to rejoin the one, there will always be more energy patterns that want to experience individuality. Think of it as reincarnation on the logos level.

Of course, there are far more complexities to the issue and I'm making a gross generalization here.

[Calimero]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

In my opinion, they "could", but they wouldn't choose to. Once your consciousness evolves to a certain complexity, it incarnates in bodies able to accommodate the complexities of that state of consciousness. Once you've evolved beyond the animal's mental complexity, you wouldn't normally reincarnate back to the more simple life form. Not only that, but if a more complex soul pattern incarnated into a less complex form, the presence of the consciousness in that body would actually cause its genetics to change (over a long period of time), and evolve to accommodate the new energy. This is where the human form came from -- complex soul patterns incarnating in ape/monkey bodies, which caused them to accommodate to that complexity.

For as far as I can understand, you are saying that the human body at this time is only accommodation that suits the most complex state of consciousness on earth. So all human beings are like souls with a complexity that is beyond the animals complexity.

Now if the complexity of consciousness of souls goes beyond of the level of accommodation that the human body can give, and the souls would chose to reincarnate on earth in a human body, as there is no higher accommodation form yet, after a long time an new even more complex body than the human body will appear on earth as these souls would cause genetic changes after a long period of time. Something like that?

Or do you think that humans are the last stage of complexity on earth?
What I mean is maybe souls do not reincarnate or wish to reincarnate once their consciousness gets beyond complexity that a human body can carry?

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Calimero

For as far as I can understand, you are saying that the human body at this time is only accommodation that suits the most complex state of consciousness on earth. So all human beings are like souls with a complexity that is beyond the animals complexity.

Yes. Exactly. However, there are a small percentage of homo sapiens who are just barely at the human level of complexity. You might call them sociopaths. They are very "animal like" and predatory.

Originally Posted by Calimero

Now if the complexity of consciousness of souls goes beyond of the level of accommodation that the human body can give, and the souls would chose to reincarnate on earth in a human body, as there is no higher accommodation form yet, after a long time an new even more complex body than the human body will appear on earth as these souls would cause genetic changes after a long period of time. Something like that?

Indeed. In fact, it is going on as we speak and has been going on for quite some time. We, or at least a portion of the population, are about to make a radical leap in evolution.

Originally Posted by Calimero

Or do you think that humans are the last stage of complexity on earth?
What I mean is maybe souls do not reincarnate or wish to reincarnate once their consciousness gets beyond complexity that a human body can carry?

Some souls simply refuse to incarnate. Nothing is forced upon them. These souls choose to progress vicariously, studying the experiences of others. Incarnation is considered the "fast way" of progressing, but it isn't the only way.

When a soul reaches the point where it has attained a complexity beyond that of a human form, it will normally reincarnate in a more advanced body. Usually some sort of "light body". It still has physicality, but it is less dense than that of a earth body. Many of the so called extra-terrestrials people report seeing are beings of this nature. They are hyper-dimensional and can move back and forth through time. They are highly psychic. Some sources would refer to them as examples of "fourth-density" consciousness.

Suffice it to say, that reality as I have come to understand it, is composed of light and vibration. There are seven notes in the octave of existence -- similar to a piano. We currently exist at the 3rd note (3rd density). This is human complexity. 2nd density is animal complexity, and 1st density is the complexity of matter consciousness.

Due to various natural interactions of spiritual energy (aquarian age), and due to a high volume of complex soul patterns incarnating on planet Earth at this time (whom we'll call the "system busters"), the consciousness of the planet is increasing at an exponential rate. What is interesting is that because of this, a unique opportunity is going to present itself. Our reality -- its consciousness -- is going to start to vibrate in resonance with the density above our own. Of course, this will only be temporary, and eventually the two notes will separate. Those attuned to the higher note will stay at that note, those not, will stay where their consciousness resonates.

What this means is that we will have the opportunity to assume a fourth density state of existence without having to reincarnate in a different body. This is the "Earth shift" you hear new agers talking about. Or if you have a christian bent, it may have some things in common with the idea of "the rapture".

Wow, that was a lot to take in, wasn't it?

Well if you don't think I'm crazy by now, feel free to ask questions.

[RTF671]

I am also a firm believer in Anagogy says. We are born into this fairly ignorant, but by no means a blank slate. We all arrive in varying degrees of personal development. Some who just pass the minimum requirements to be here, the vast intellects, and everyone in the middle.

The time we spend here is transient. Although very important. We are here to learn and experience. And somewhere along those hopefully learn to respect our selves and the others around us. Those who make will leave this third density and make way into the fourth. Those who do not will repeat it, which is not a bad option because we all progress at our own paces. No need to rush, everybody gets there at the same time (which is irrelevant and transient).

Always consider the forces of Creation (God, if you will) are truly vast and not limited to see. They stretch out in all directions including some of the wierdiest things you could think of (astral projections, gravity, have to eat? who thought of that?). The phrase "there is nothing new under the sun" has some merit. Between all the possibilities of alternate realities and unseen realms it probably exists. Also it has intelligent design between all facets. Take for example the basic principles of electricity. Voltage, current, and resistance. Those three words mean so much more than electric principles. They pop up everywhere like in water (current in a river), physical attraction (an intangible "voltage"), dark/lightworkers (neg/pos voltage). Or the spectrum of visible light. Each chakra has a color and each "density" does just to name two.

Alright I'm bringing this tangent rant to a close. Remember if you do not agree with anything I said by no means be forced to believe it, I only offer insight I have found useful.

Thank you Anagogy, your post inspired to write. I have been lurking far too long.
I freely send my love and the radiance of my being out to all of you.

[Anagogy]

Thanks for posting RTF671. Interesting comments.

[Elfwing]

I remember reading -somewhere- or other that souls may "split" but tend to reintergrate after the lives are over. However, I can't remember the source and nor have I ever read it more than once.

... Or maybe I just read too much about multiple personalities.