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Old 06-10-2008, 11:44 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Why get a reading...

The best time to get a reading is if you're stuck and can't hear the voice of your own intuition or guides. You're open and ready to hear what you need to hear but not always what you want to hear. A lot of what I tell people are things they weren't quite ready to admit to themselves, but hearing someone else bring it up helps them realize they need to face it.

Sometimes people book readings to make sure they're on the right path. in other words, they know what they want to do but hearing it from someone who doesn't know them gives them the impetus to get moving. It's confirmation and validation that you're already on the right path.


Spartan: That's really funny. Do you realize how long it would take me to do 14,668 mini readings? LOL. Probably 20 years!
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:52 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Spartan: That's really funny. Do you realize how long it would take me to do 14,668 mini readings? LOL. Probably 20 years!
Heck teach Steve to do them, readings from him can be half price!

Open a psychic school, train other psychics so they can work for you!

Or even limit your readings to members with 500+ posts. Charge $20 to deter idiots, then limit each member to 1 reading every 6 months!

There are plenty of solutions!
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What exactly is the problem you're wanting me to solve darlin?
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I think he needs to learn how to earn enough money such that $295 feels like a cup of coffee.
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@Spartan: Here are some articles I'd suggest for help with getting past the script you seem to be running:
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I'm trying to expand your target market to include poor students who can't afford a $300 reading. Then more people would reap the benefits of your abilities and could stop being so skeptical. Also, some people may prefer readings done in this way.

I for one would like to find out if you're for real. I would look forward to such a service. And it would make you more accessible to your readers.

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I'm trying to expand your target market to include poor students who can't afford a $300 reading. Then more people would reap the benefits of your abilities and could stop being so skeptical. Also, some people may prefer readings done in this way.

I for one would like to find out if you're for real. I would look forward to such a service. And It would make you more accessible to your readers.
That's what all the free articles and podcasts are for.

As mentioned in the podcast, skepticism is something people eventually choose to move beyond when they're ready. It's not our place to force people to open themselves to experiences they aren't ready to have since that would contradict their free will.

In your case I'd suggest it's healthy for you to remain skeptical and doubtful. You don't quite fit the profile of someone who's ready to take on conscious psychic development just yet. I mean no offense by this. Before I met Erin I was in a similar place, and it would have been too overwhelming for me to start having these kinds of experiences before I was ready for them.
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Spartan's currently a skeptic - he just wants to see it for himself without spending hundreds of dollars.

Me too . Oh well for us haha.

I actually don't feel the need right now fora reading but I'd definitely get one in the future.
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Thanks for those, but I think I might have read them already.

My problem is I want to believe in something more than a deterministic world, where everyone is a slave to their genes and environment, where self-interest is the rationale behind every action. I have many perceived problems, and many worries about the future. I worry constantly and I have a lot of irrational fear. I would feel extremely comforted if I found out there was more to existence than just this. I know you say there is, but I need proof for myself, otherwise I could never believe.

You describe something exciting, something that sounds like science-fiction. It sounds pretty cool, but very improbable.

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@Spartan: The universe doesn't quite work the way you assume it does. What you're actually doing is asking the universe to provide you with proof while simultaneously demanding that it not provide that proof. The proof cannot manifest under those conditions. Even if you got a reading with Erin or another skilled psychic, it's extremely likely that the information that would come through for you would be fuzzy and vague enough to leave plenty of room for doubt. That is the order you've placed with the universe, so that is all you can receive at this time.

The universe is actually waiting on you to place a different order if you want to experience something new. It is powerless to do otherwise.
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Me too . Oh well for us haha.
My readings with Erin were spot on. If you're mostly a skeptic, but even somewhat open to the idea that all this is possible, my advice would be to definitely invest in a reading.

The forums didn't exist when I got my first reading, so the only thing Erin could have known about me were a couple details about the relationship I was in at the time, from an e-mail I sent Steve asking for his advice. (That was before his contact form said specifically not to ask for advice -- I was one of those early adopter advice seekers who ruined it for everyone.)

Even though Erin couldn't have known hardly the first thing about me, within a couple minutes she had brought me to tears. She started relaying messages from my sister who died some twenty years ago. You couldn't know how unprepared I was for that. It was not something I asked for, or even remotely expected. I just wanted relationship advice.

Right off the bat, "Oh, your sister is coming through."

Then the messages started. To say the things she did, Erin would have had to know not only that my sister had died, which, I promise you, she couldn't have known, but when her death happened, her nickname for me, how her death impacted my family, how it affected my upbringing afterwards. Everything she told me was decidedly impossible for her to know, but right there it was.

If you're not too scared to be open to the idea that intuitive powers are possible, I'd highly recommend getting a reading. It might change your world view. But fair warning, to hear a deceased relative tell you they've been watching over you for twenty years, when all that time the only thing you had faith in was a dirt nap, is emotionally overwhelming.
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@Spartan: The universe doesn't quite work the way you assume it does. What you're actually doing is asking the universe to provide you with proof while simultaneously demanding that it not provide that proof. The proof cannot manifest under those conditions. Even if you got a reading with Erin or another skilled psychic, it's extremely likely that the information that would come through for you would be fuzzy and vague enough to leave plenty of room for doubt. That is the order you've placed with the universe, so that is all you can receive at this time.

The universe is actually waiting on you to place a different order if you want to experience something new. It is powerless to do otherwise.
I don't think I can suspend disbelief, so I'm also powerless to do otherwise, therefore we have a conundrum!

Perhaps in the future I will think differently. What are the chances of me being shocked into belief by some strange experience? Or do I need to change my belief system first?

If there is an afterlife, I hope it isn't hard work like this life!? Please let it be worry free, otherwise non-existence may even be preferable. What do you think?

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Then the messages started. To say the things she did, Erin would have had to know not only that my sister had died, which, I promise you, she couldn't have known, but when her death happened, her nickname for me, how her death impacted my family and finally, how it affected my upbringing afterwards. Everything she told me was decidedly impossible for her to know, but right there it was.
That's the kind of proof I would require.
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It's not all about you.
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Lol, to me it is. Although I'm probably just an annoying leech to you.
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Erin,

Someone I know (I don't want to say who to protect their identity, but trust me that it's definitely not myself) has some kind of psychic ability. This person has told me that sometimes they see the recently deceased, it's like they hone in on this person (as they put it).

They've also had visions of murders being committed and things like that; so they know who did it, and how, and what the person who was murdered was feeling and thinking at the time of death (I think they said they can even see it through the victim's eyes).

This is, depending on how one views it, both a blessing and a curse. This person doesn't really want to talk to anybody about these experiences and I think I can understand why.

But I'm curious - if someone has bizarre experiences, like you discover you're a psychic medium or something, do you have any responsibility or obligation to use that gift to help people? What if you somehow don't want that responsibility and just don't do anything at all with the gift?

I wish there was a way I could help this person...
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Rachelle,

This is only my opinion, but I dont' think it matters if someone does anything with their gift or not. Think of it as a natural talent, like someone who is naturally good at the piano, for example, who chooses not to be a pianist, or may only choose to play the piano in private. Some may say that they are waisting their gift, but that person may say they have many gifts that they want to utilize.

Similarly, if one naturally has some psychic or mediumship abilities, I don't think that person is required to do anything with it. They may even just use it for themselves (use intuition to gain more Yinsight about situations, for example).
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I didn't do anything with my gift for years, partly because I didn't know what to do with it and I didn't know it could benefit anyone else. But mostly I was afraid of constantly being faced by negative entities.

What you're describing sounds similar to Allison DuBois's gift. Allison has written some interesting books on her experiences. I would probably recommend her first book to your friend if your friend was interested.
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I didn't do anything with my gift for years, partly because I didn't know what to do with it and I didn't know it could benefit anyone else. But mostly I was afraid of constantly being faced by negative entities.
Do you believe that everyone has such abilities available if only they knew about them and how to effectively access them?
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Yes I believe anyone can increase their psychic abilities. It's like a muscle. For some people it's dormant, weak, flabby, whereas others are mysteriously gifted with some good muscles even when they aren't working out too much. But some people will thrive with the abilities and some won't. And it also takes time and energy. I really saw my skills improve the more I used them. And now after more than 1000 readings I am ripped.
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I taught psychic development classes for ten years. Part of my initial motivation was a firm belief that everyone has the ability and like Erin has said, it's like a muscle that we've never been taught to use. I started teaching from home for 2hrs in the evening once a week. It was pay as you go and open to anyone interested.

We ran through a simple but effective program which included psychometry, guided meditations, (sensing energy from objects), sensing energy fields, aura cleansing, raising vibrational levels and finished the last hour with the group taking turns to sit up the front while the rest of the class tuned in to auras, past lives, guides and dead people.

Everyone who came along sensed something and recieved validation for themselves. The classes attracted an eclectic group of men and women. I had a tattooed truck driver who had remove his front teeth when we worked because the energy made the wires in his teeth squeal and a CEO of a major corperation. We had a lot of laughs. When we ran out of chairs they sat on floor until we had to move to a conference room at the community centre.

The more skilled the core group got at working at higher vibrational levels, the quicker new people caught up. Group energy is very potent. It is much easier to sense on higher frequencies. Of all the people who passed through my classes over the years, only a handful went on to work as psychics. There were many others who had the ability to but chose not to.

Working as a psychic medium requires more than just psychic ability. It is a huge responsibilty because you are often walking in clients deeply private material. You have to remove yourself (judgements, feelings, thoughts, opinions, ego) while still being mindful enough to ask appropriate questions of spirit. You need to be able to ascertain your clients mental state. Some people will go to a psychic when they need counselling, are physically or mentally ill. You can't futurize for someone who's overwhelmed by the immediate. You have to be honest enough with yourself to able to seek clarification or confirmation from spirit if you're uncertain about what you've been given. Most of all you need to be a humanitarian with an abundance of compassion for your fellow man.

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is it possible to ask for the level of truth and empowerment from words or books ?? you could say im getting a bad vibe about that book??
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It's unfortunate that people believe psychic senstivity is an extraordinary ability. I think it's really a natural ability we all possess to one degree or another, but most people haven't developed it much.
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Indeed.

I consider myself very fortunate for always having a closeness to my intuitive abilities, even when I didn't really know what they were or how to use them effectively (and as Steve says, they're something you develop; you don't just find them and start predicting the lottery, or something ).

What I think is unfortunate is that people are so willing to close off the possibility of something so easily, simply because it satisfies their talent themes or makes their life a little bit less scary.

I've spoken to a lot of sceptics, and most of them are sceptical not because it's logical or rational--that's just what they say on the surface. When you really dig and dig (read: subject them to things that completely blow their paradigm), they reveal that, really, they just want a model of reality that is elegant and simple, since the model "people like us" propose is inherently more vast (and interesting!).

But what of it?

Just because something is more expansive and complex, it doesn't mean you should shun its existence. To me, that's downright limiting, and super-bad if you want to be effective.

But, led by their talents--the things that operate, usually, below their level of awareness that influence what they do and how they process information--they make the choice for something more elegant rather than something more accurate.

I can understand why they do this, but really, it's a case of poorly expressed talent themes, much like the domineering person at work with the super-useful Command talent theme who dominates others instead of channelling his talent more productively in a way that is in alignment with what is useful for everyone, or if you like, what's in alignment with truth, love, and power.

I'll openly say that my talent themes allow me to adopt the psychic paradigm (and all that comes with it) very easily, but I've still had to deal with situations where I was expressing my talents in a non-productive way. Ultimately, you want to master your talents, not let them master you, so you can be free to do what is important. For me, human potential is too important to worry about the complexity and confusion that comes with adopting a more expansive model of reality, and while it may be easier to live a simpler life, I consciously choose how to direct my talent themes--especially my very dominant Maximiser talent theme--in a way that is useful not just to me, but to everyone. This isn't so much a point you reach on the "ladder" of self-improvement; it's a choice you make. Your experiences in life will reflect that choice and determine your development, or lack thereof.

You're free to make the easier decision, and there's even room for that, but if you do, you must accept the full package. I've seen that package, and while it kind of looks cosy and simple (like a coffin ), I don't think it's what sentient, conscious human beings should resign themselves to. I think it's the result of inefficient systems that take us away from our true nature, and in an attempt to compensate with the unnatural results caused by that, we make decisions not because we're fully alive, sentient, and intelligent, but because we're scared and, simply put, don't feel good. But, as Steve says:
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I was reading an interview of Erin where she is asked what is coming up for her in the next year (this was in 07') and she mentions that she is working on an audio program that is designed to help people communicate with their spirit guides/higher self.

Is this 96 min podcast the audio program she was referring to?
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No, alas, I have yet to manifest the audio program I've wanted. I think I've outlined like 3 of them. You know how they say that if you add something to a full plate you have to remove something? Still determining if that should be Steve, the kids, showering, readings, eating, etc. But it will happen eventually...
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No, alas, I have yet to manifest the audio program I've wanted. I think I've outlined like 3 of them. You know how they say that if you add something to a full plate you have to remove something? Still determining if that should be Steve, the kids, showering, readings, eating, etc. But it will happen eventually...

that would be cool, test it out noobs and see how their skills improve, than refine and improve your program.
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