Encouragement needed for LoA

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Ace22

Unfortunately at this point mindless thoughts race through my head and all I can concentrate on is "White".

Oh. Well, there's your problem.

Anyway, try blue. The chakra colour of communication and expression. Might be useful for an intention to perform on a world tour.

Also, try subjective communication. What this means - enter your room and call up whoever you want to talk to. (Like, David Bowie's agent). Tell him you're available and talented and please will he get David to contact you for his next world tour.

And since you're the praying sort, you may want to check out this book - "The Amazing Laws of Cosmic Mind Power" by Joseph Murphy. Yeah, cheesy title, but he's the praying, God-based sort of LOA practitioner.

[Acting Like Godot]

Oh, and talk to Blake. He might be helpful.

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Well, I can't say I have much direct experience in praying to God. Manifesting tends to come much easier for me, when I simply pretend to be God. Hence my nickname - "Acting Like Godot".

Oh... I figured you were just always late..

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by Ace22

Oh, lest I foget; I firmly believe that God is in control of everything. My timing is not God's timing. Like I said before, I've seen miraculous things happen that were more than coincidence and done in a fashion that I never would have dreamed of. So prayer is a big part of my approach. I, like many musicians, believe that all music, talent and all things good come from God. But again, God has His own daytimer. Yet if God blessed me with this abililty to move my fingers like an IBM selectric II *(shows my age) then He must have a plan for this well groomed talent. Something that may even involve a "greater good".

OK, I'll shut up and listen now.

Ace,
A couple of things come up for me when reading your posts. Understand, this is just what I'm getting and may have absolutely no impact on your situation whatsoever, but here it is anyway:

You're fighting so hard to make this happen you are completely out of balance. LoA is fine and it's a good practice, but obsession over anything is never good. You yourself have said that you have suffered a break up three times over your "dream". I don't discount your dream, but if you focus on it to the exclusion of everything else, you will never acheive what you are truly meant to do.

You claim to be a believer that God has granted you this gift. You say you assume he has a purpose for this gift he gave you. Who are you to say that his intent is to have you tour with a big name star?

Have you asked?

Instead of taking the elevator and stairs down, try going up instead. Exact same process, exact same emotions, just up instead of down.

When you get to the top, ask whoever/whatever you meet if they have any help for you or can direct you to someone who does.

Those you meet in this state are your Spirit Guides/Allies/Angels (we use a lot of different names for things around here and I don't want to leave anyone out )and they will help you. God may even answer directly. Ask them/him what they/he need you to know - not what you want to know. What you want to know may have nothing to do with what you're supposed to or need to do. Do not ask how to get a Tour gig; do not ask who you should seek out to get your "in". You could ask "What do I need to do?" or "What do I need to know?" You could ask what your purpose is. You could ask why you have this gift. But do not ask questions that make assumptions.

Try this and see what happens. It may help you.

Oh, and dude, take a breath and relax Try to get some balance back in your life. Cedar is great way to help you do this.

Let us know how it goes.

Peace.

[Acting Like Godot]

So far I've tried going up only once. Met something, asked it what it was, and poof! I went out of alpha straightaway. Guess it didn't want to answer.

So I still prefer going down. But going down is useless if you're going to sit in a white room doing nothing.

Ace, ask Blake if anyone else who's helpful is around. If so, ask Blake to take you to that person's room.

If all this is getting too wacky for you, try one of those LOA writing-based exercises. Just write about what you want etc etc.

[Ace22]

Originally Posted by Mato Kinze

. Ask them/him what they/he need you to know - not what you want to know. What you want to know may have nothing to do with what you're supposed to or need to do. Do not ask how to get a Tour gig; do not ask who you should seek out to get your "in". You could ask "What do I need to do?" or "What do I need to know?" You could ask what your purpose is. You could ask why you have this gift. But do not ask questions that make assumptions.

Does this not negate the purpose of being "sure" of your intention? I know what I want. If God has other plans, I'm sure He'll manifest His intentions on me with no problems.

My email address is Ace@AceAndres.com for those of you that can give me more in depth suggestions without using up Erin's bandwidth.

And I would certainly like to know more about the Magic.

Thanks

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by Ace22

Does this not negate the purpose of being "sure" of your intention? I know what I want. If God has other plans, I'm sure He'll manifest His intentions on me with no problems.

My email address is Ace@AceAndres.com for those of you that can give me more in depth suggestions without using up Erin's bandwidth.

And I would certainly like to know more about the Magic.

Thanks

I don't want to speak for her, but I think Erin'd say she has plenty of bandwidth for this topic since what we discuss here may be the same thing others are struggling with or may help someone else ask some good questions; all of which are kinda the point to her even having this forum in the first place.

That being said - Erin, if we need to take this off site, let us know.

Ace,
"Intent" is fine, but if your intent is contrary to your purpose, you'll have nothing but heartache and trouble. To live a truly congruent life, you need to manifest your intent along with your purpose.

For instance, you could have the intent to win the Indy 500. But if you're driving around in a Ford Escort, your intent doesn't mean squat. You could also be driving around in a formula one, but have no idea where the track is. Same result. You could know where the track is, have a great car, but never done a speed trial. Same result.

In consulting your allies for assistance, they can let you know that you're an idiot for trying to run the Indy in a formula one and are really supposed to take that car and go Monaco for the Grand Prix.

See? Your intent, while powerful, is nothing without congruency.

The difference between going up and going down is the differenct between introspection and projection.

Down = inward
Up = Outward

Your guides can be accessed by going inwards, but your Benefactor (aka Higher Self) is accessed by going outwards - or in the case of the elevator and stairs, upwards.

Godot has a great point about asking Blake for some help. You mentioned that you go to the seventh door. Seven is a sacred number. That's good. But perhaps Blake could introduce you to other allies behind other doors. They may be able to help you out.

But the really big medicine is with your Benefactor. And they will be reached by going up. Don't let one aborted attempt keep you from seeking their aid again. Your Benefactor's purpose is to make sure you do what you're supposed to do in this life. They will do everything - miraculous things - to make that happen if you let them. But you have to be congruent.

That's what "I" mean by magic.

Godot, what's your definition?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Mato Kinze

Your Benefactor's purpose is to make sure you do what you're supposed to do in this life. They will do everything - miraculous things - to make that happen if you let them. But you have to be congruent.

That's what "I" mean by magic.

Godot, what's your definition?

Well, about what you say above. I think you're talking about the True Will concept. And you're saying that the Benefactor can reveal to you what your True Will is.

The idea is that while we all have plenty of free will, there are just a very few things that won't happen, simply because it runs against our True Will (which is like some higher plan that the universe has for us). So no matter how much LOA or conscious magick you do, you just won't succeed. Because the outcome runs against your True Will.

Personally, I can only think of one experience I've had, where my LOA failure could have been attributable to an incongruency with True Will. Come to think of it, my situation was analogous to Aces'. Because it was also a situation where notable people kept saying "you're great, you're great", and I had lots of successes along the way, but the actual big break never came.

Oh, it still hasn't.

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Well, about what you say above. I think you're talking about the True Will concept. And you're saying that the Benefactor can reveal to you what your True Will is.

The idea is that while we all have plenty of free will, there are just a very few things that won't happen, simply because it runs against our True Will (which is like some higher plan that the universe has for us). So no matter how much LOA or conscious magick you do, you just won't succeed. Because the outcome runs against your True Will.

Personally, I can only think of one experience I've had, where my LOA failure could have been attributable to an incongruency with True Will. Come to think of it, my situation was analogous to Aces'. Because it was also a situation where notable people kept saying "you're great, you're great", and I had lots of successes along the way, but the actual big break never came.

Oh, it still hasn't.

Yeah... not a big fan of Crowley. But I guess even the Devil (pun intended) can quote scripture so I don't have an issue necessarily with the idea of Thelema or what was proposed on that level.

I think that's more Taoist though. At least how it occurs to me.

[Ace22]

Huh?????

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Ace22

Huh?????

That was not exactly the most .... promising .... response.

Okay. Never mind. I guess we lost you somewhere along the way. I'll take five steps back and show you another route.

You're the God-fearing Christian type, right? Great. I'll teach you how to pray. Yes, of course you know how to pray. I'm just showing you a much more magical way to pray. Follow these steps exactly.

1. Pray either:

(a) at night, before you go to bed; OR
(b) in the morning, immediately after waking up.

(Don't ask me to explain this, ok, it takes too long. Something to do with your brainwave frequencies).

2. Please, absolutely no alcohol, not even a beer, before you pray. (Ideally you should even be on vegetarian diet).

3. Choose your body posture. You could lie down, sit up or kneel. Whatever posture you choose, once you get started, stop all unnecessary body movements. COMPLETELY. Be like a statue.

4. Before you pray, breathe. Slow ... and ... deep ... In .... and ... out .... and make each exhalation longer than the inhalation. 30 times. All this while, focus your attention on one part of your body (eg your nostrils - pay attention to the movement of breath around your nostrils, as you breathe).

5. Now you are ready to pray.

6. No begging. No "Dear God, please please gimme a world tour, I implore you ...".

7. Pray with gratitude - as if it is a done deal that you're going on a world tour. For example - "Dear God, thanks so much for giving me this opportunity to go on the world tour with David Bowie."

8. Pray with emotion. Gratitude, appreciation, joy will be ideal.

9. Do not merely pray with words. At certain times, pray with images in your head.

10. Do not pray with purely visual images. Your images, apart from being visual, should have sound. And they should be moving images as well (not just still, unmoving images).

11. For example, you can visualise yourself playing onstage with David Bowie. Hear your music; see the audience; mentally construct the appearance, clothes etc of all the band members, and the stage lights etc; see & hear David Bowie sing.

(Please, avoid imagining any of the excessively morbid, angry or frustrated sort of David Bowie songs).

12. All done with praying? Wait, you still need to make a proper exit.

13. Back to the deep, slow breathing. 30 times, in and out, slow and deep, every exhalation to be longer than the inhalation, keep your attention on the movement of air around your nostrils.

14. With each inhalation, imagine your body being filled with God's white light, starting from the top of your head, spreading downwards to the rest of your body. Then with each exhalation, imagine that you are releasing negativity and doubt from your body. 30 breaths later, your body is free from all negativity and doubt.

15. Say, "Thank you, Jesus, I love you." End.

16. If you were praying at night, go immediately to sleep.

17. If you were praying in the morning, now stand barefooted on the ground and for 10 seconds, imagine that roots are growing out of your feet into the ground. Then get on with your daily routine.

That is all.

It's a kind of magic. Trust me.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Ace22

Huh?????

That was not exactly the most .... promising .... response.

Okay. Never mind. I guess we lost you somewhere along the way. I'll take five steps back and show you another route.

You're the God-fearing Christian type, right? Great. I'll teach you how to pray. Yes, of course you know how to pray. I'm just showing you a much more magical way to pray. Follow these steps exactly.

1. Pray either (a) at night, before you go to bed; OR (b) in the morning, immediately after waking up. (Don't ask me to explain this, ok, it takes too long. Something to do with your brainwave frequencies).

2. Please, absolutely no alcohol, not even a beer, before you pray. (Ideally you should even be on vegetarian diet).

3. Choose your body posture. You could lie down, sit up or kneel. Whatever posture you choose, once you get started, stop all unnecessary body movements. COMPLETELY. Be like a statue. But make sure it is a posture where you can breathe deep and easy.

4. Before you pray, close your eyes and breathe. Slow ... and ... deep ... In .... and ... out .... and make each exhalation longer than the inhalation. 30 times. All this while, focus your attention on one part of your body (eg your nostrils - pay attention to the movement of breath around your nostrils, as you breathe).

5. Now you are ready to pray.

6. No begging. No "Dear God, please please gimme a world tour, I implore you ...".

7. Pray with gratitude - as if it is a done deal that you're going on a world tour. For example - "Dear God, thanks so much for giving me this opportunity to go on the world tour with David Bowie."

8. Pray with emotion. Gratitude, appreciation, joy will be ideal.

9. Do not merely pray with words. At certain times, pray with images in your head.

10. Do not pray with purely visual images. Your images, apart from being visual, should have sound. And they should be moving images as well (not just still, unmoving images).

11. For example, you can visualise yourself playing onstage with David Bowie. Hear your music; see the audience; mentally construct the appearance, clothes etc of all the band members, and the stage lights etc; see & hear David Bowie sing.

(Please, avoid imagining any of the excessively morbid, angry or frustrated sort of David Bowie songs).

12. All done with praying? Wait, you still need to make a proper exit.

13. Back to the deep, slow breathing. 30 times, in and out, slow and deep, every exhalation to be longer than the inhalation, keep your attention on the movement of air around your nostrils.

14. With each inhalation, imagine your body being filled with God's white light, starting from the top of your head, spreading downwards to the rest of your body. Then with each exhalation, imagine that you are releasing negativity and doubt from your body. 30 breaths later, your body is free from all negativity and doubt.

15. Say, "Thank you, Jesus, I love you. I know you heard my prayer, you always do." End.

16. If you were praying at night, go immediately to sleep.

17. If you were praying in the morning, now stand barefooted on the ground and for 10 seconds, imagine that roots are growing out of your feet into the ground. Then get on with your daily routine.

That is all. It's a kind of magic. Trust me.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Mato Kinze

I don't want to speak for her, but I think Erin'd say she has plenty of bandwidth for this topic since what we discuss here may be the same thing others are struggling with or may help someone else ask some good questions; all of which are kinda the point to her even having this forum in the first place.

This is the sort of topic I think is vitally important on a website that deals with teaching about LoA. It's addressing one of the fundamental problems with progress -- people accomplish a great deal and get very close to achieving their dream, but then bump up against some sort of ceiling. And no matter what they do, they can't break through that ceiling. They try and work and make every effort, and they can't break through the ceiling. And I suspect most people, unfortunately, get too frustrated and give up. The answers to what creates this block and how to get past it are very important.

As mentioned somewhere around here just recently -- many times we hear somebody who's super-successful say "I was just about to give up . . . "

[Erin Pavlina]

No bandwidth problems here. You guys are doing great. Continue...

[Ace22]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

That is all. It's a kind of magic. Trust me.

That's Great ALG. I hate to say this but I went Up the elavator to my new blue room penthouse and I hate to say it but Blake was not his usual self. Didn't seem to like the fact that he was upstairs I guess. And when I got to my room, I called for "anyone". All I got was something saying "Ax murderer". That's the only thing I could understand. Now I know you guys think I'm making this up. But it made me not want to go up to the penthouse again. As a matter of fact, the last time I said all I got was mindless babble in the white room? It was scary mindless babble. Like a bunch of voices fighting to be heard. And it sounded like a record being played in reverse.

I think I'll do much better with this praying approach.


Again Thank you.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Ace22

That's Great ALG. I hate to say this but I went Up the elavator to my new blue room penthouse and I hate to say it but Blake was not his usual self. Didn't seem to like the fact that he was upstairs I guess. And when I got to my room, I called for "anyone". All I got was something saying "Ax murderer". That's the only thing I could understand. Now I know you guys think I'm making this up.

No, I believe you.

You're running with a different crowd here, Ace. The people who visit Erin's forum talk to spirit guides; go astral travelling; see ghosts; make magick; dream lucidly; read minds; investigate their past lives etc etc.

So your experiences would not sound that strange, to many readers here.

But it made me not want to go up to the penthouse again. As a matter of fact, the last time I said all I got was mindless babble in the white room? It was scary mindless babble. Like a bunch of voices fighting to be heard. And it sounded like a record being played in reverse.

Disturbing. My guess would be that your white room got occupied by unwanted tenants.

Listen, Ace. There are different specific approaches to this, but the underlying idea is always to create a kind of mental space (like your room, or a sanctuary or a magic circle, whatever) which is your own space, in which you are safe, secure and very powerful.

In this space, nothing comes in unless you invite it. Close to the end of each session, if you don't want the thing to be around, make sure you get it to leave. If you don't, it gets the idea that it's okay for it to stay there. And if it stays too long, it may get territorial.

Needless to say, if you invite anything in, I strongly recommend that you ask for a loving, kind, wise, helpful entity to come in. Example - here I invite Hotei, the laughing buddha, into my space.

If you do not feel comfortable with your white room, there are two things you could possibly do:

(a) go back there and chase out the unwanted tenants.

(b) don't ever go back. Create a new room / space, if you want one, and start over.

Personally, I'd go with (b). But then I'm a wuss and a scaredy-cat.

Anyway, you go pray to God first and see how that works.

[Ace22]

I'm taking my room back. But it bothers me that creeps think they can come into my psychic realm and "punk me".

Tonight we do serious..... I mean serious spiritual battle. My white room is a part of me as well as my blue room.

We'll do some house keeping then some praying.


Thanks again.

[Mato Kinze]

Blue is a sacred color and the color of the heavens. A good color for your "penthouse".

Be patient with yourself and do not be afraid. Fear is a low-vibration state and not one to take with you into your prayer-space. Next time you go up, listen not with fear, but with curiosity and openess. Allow the sounds to be just that; sounds. Do not try to make them mean something or bring in Hollywood's version of what posessed evil is supposed to be like. Just allow yourself to be free and an observer. Allow things to come to you.

Once you've conquored your fear, then start asking questions again and see if that helps. Remeber though, good questions only.

I'll keep you in my prayers.

Mitaque Oyasin,
Mato Kinze

[Tigerlilly]

Originally Posted by Ace22

So back to the original question: Should I sit back and let it come, or do I need to keep pounding the pavement? (as older and wiser would say)

Say your prayer but tether your camel first.

So the way I see it, going out there and shaking some trees is always a good idea, but then at the same time be calm inside, deliverance is right on time and on the right time.

Actually I don't think you should have done the things you do now years ago. You got roots, you lived the life those young rocksters( and anybody else getting famous at an early age for that matter) could have used to remain grounded at the top. Look at these totally unbalanced kids, look how many of them go down before even developing their full potential.

And anyway I think you can trust in the Universe to make things right, even if you made mistakes. Making chicken salad out of chicken **** is God's special, it's called creation.

And here's another thing I thought pretty insightful and good advice from Natalie Goldberg when she writes about writing her break-through book: "The biggest struggle was not with the actual writing, but working out the fear of success, the fear of failure, and finally burning through to just pure action."

[Ace22]

I have to thank everybody that has been an encouragement in this thread. You know who you are. I got my two Rooms in order. Actually Blake was quite helpful.

I enetered both rooms and demanded that everyone get out. Then I invited the Holy spirit to come and cleanse my rooms. After ridding the upper room of unwanted guests. I then invited a certain spiritual guide to help me. And believe it or not, it wasn't my spiritual guide. He gave me advise and I followed it. Hopefully, it will be seen by the people mentioned in this thread and that phone will ring.

Until then, my rooms are a place for me to