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Old 12-20-2007, 11:07 AM
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In Erin’s blog post about the spiritual consequences of suicide, she says that if you kill yourself, you will have to run around in the “ether” trying to make amends for all the things that you were “supposed” to do on earth in your life but now you will never do because you killed yourself. For the record, I am assuming those “things” I am “supposed” to do are equivalent to the “cheeses” used in the maze analogy in her other blog posts. (See: Destiny vs. Free Will, Like Rats in a Maze , The Spiritual Consequences of Suicide)

In this sense, I don’t understand how suicide is any different from any other failing. I am nearly 40 years old. Suppose I am “supposed” to have a child before I die-well, that might be one of my “cheeses,” after the man. If I kill myself now, according to Erin’s post about suicide, after I’m dead I will have to run around fixing things that have all been changed now that I won’t be having or raising that baby (for example). What makes no sense, however, is the assumption that, if I don’t kill myself, I am going to succeed in having that baby. It’s some kind of enormous presumption that if I stay alive, I am actually going to have that baby and reach that “cheese” before I die.

So how can or why should I qualify suicide as anything different from one failure after another in life? Suicide is just an instantaneously decisive failure that prevents you right away from doing what you’re “supposed” to do, or reaching the “cheese” at the end of your life, instead of lots of relatively smaller failures over a long, drawn-out period of time that keep you from reaching that “cheese”. Why should I have to make amends for the lack of that child in the world after I kill myself, when I don't have to make amends for it if I simply stay alive and continue to fail to reach a situation where I could have the child?

The only other alternative I can see is that there isn’t any free will and, one way or the other the “powers that be” (God) are going to control me by means of the events and people in my life somehow so that I reach that cheese, come hell or high water, before I die.
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:20 PM
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You're misunderstanding one aspect of the cheese in the maze.

The cheese in the maze are not "supposed to's". They are options. They are events or circumstances that you designed for yourself before you incarnated based on information present at that time. As you actually live, life, choices and circumstances change. People go "off maze" often. Cheese moves.

You may have made a spiritual contract with another soul to be your child and if you kill yourself before the child is born, he or she will find another parent. If you kill yourself AFTER that child is born, then yeah, you have to help their higher self and guides rework the cheese in the kid's maze. It's the responsible thing to do.
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:36 AM
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You may have made a spiritual contract with another soul to be your child and if you kill yourself before the child is born, he or she will find another parent.
Does this mean the child's father's soul also makes a contract with that child's soul? In that case, does the child's father's and mother's soul make some kind of contract too? If so, isn't that sort of like a destiny or a soulmate (or could be...of course, it could also be something as tawdry as a one-night-stand)? If only the mother makes a contract with the child, why? That's not fair...
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Both parents make the contract. But what I've been seeing is that sometimes the contract is made in the ether before everyone is born, and sometimes the parents are incarnated first and then a child selects them in which case the contract is between the child and the mom and dad's higher selves. Choice is still involved in this case. Actually choice is involved in all cases. Even if you have a contract with a child you can still decide not to enact it once you incarnate. Remember, free will trumps all once we are here.
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