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Old 10-01-2007, 03:40 PM
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That takes me back to the dilemma if big changes in the world are caused by single individuals or... mass awakening or so...

We talk about conscience worldwide awakement... but well... taking a look at history... it's all about a bunch of people. Kind of the Sgt. Pepper's Beatle record cover (Jesus, Hitler and Gandhi were censored out)...

The 20th Century was maybe shaped only by a bunch of names...

Gandhi, Hitler, Elvis, Bill Gates, JFK, Martin Luther King, Einstein, Henry Ford, Marilyn Monroe, The Beatles...

without that singles individuals there are many anything that would be absolutely different... or maybe another names, that's not the point...
and we go back... Columbus, Newton, Jesus, Buddah, Muhammed, Edison...

It was not a mass awakening but Columbus the responsible of the finding of America.... just one person?
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:44 PM
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Wow.. great post Erin, thanks.
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That reminds me of our family joke when my brothers and I were little.... anytime my mom or dad would ask, "who left the lights on?" or "who left the milk out?", my brothers and I would all holler, "EVERYONE did!" and we would laugh like crazy people. Then whoever was closest would turn off the lights or put the milk away.

So now, whenever my family is talking about world news we always have the same response: "EVERYONE did!" I don't know why but it still makes us laugh.
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I just recently heard the same lesson in a different area of life.
When you're working in a team and you discover someone has done something bad that needs fixing, it is your responsibility to make sure it gets fixed.

If you can fix it yourself you do so, and if you can't you bring in the competence you need. Every problem is a problem for the whole team. Problems left alone don't fix themselves and they even have a tendency to become harder to fix over time.
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I agree with Erin, I tend to take the responsibility into my own hands instead of just waiting for someone else to do it. Is it that odd that all the great people in history were a single person instead of a group of people? As I said elsewhere, it only takes one person to save or ruin the world.
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Excellent message Erin. Thanks to the guides.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:39 PM
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That was a good post, Erin. Thought provoking. I enjoyed it.

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Now I was angry. No one tells me to talk to the hand!
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Maybe if you ate a gluten-free diet, you wouldn't care if the bread went stale.

I've been trying and trying, but I still cannot get food to talk to me in my dreams. Any pointers?

This was a great post. IT is the whole responsibility thing where you can choose to fix the situation or not, but you are responsible for the outcome. If you say, "Someone should do something about this," or "I didn't take the bread out," rather than just taking a little responsibility and doing it, you are not making the best contribution you can make.
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Who takes the entire loaf out of the bag, anyway? Was it french bread that they were preparing for a meal...? I never, ever take more than I need, and even then much of it goes stale. But back on topic:

That was a brilliant dream and it has startling implications for my own life. Sometimes I see loaves of bread that were left out, and then other times I am the loaf. When I find myself next to my bag rather than inside it, even if there is no one there to put me back in, putting another loaf back in its bag makes me feel a little fresher.
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Incidentally, one of my roommates left out a pot of macaroni and cheese which has become extremely sour. I've been evading it, and they just don't care about things like that. So maybe I looked too hard for a metaphorical application.
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Very good post, thank you Erin.
This is an important lesson that I've been learning in my life. I used to think that I could just ignore problems that weren't my responsibility, but that always seems to turn out badly. And I always feel guilty if I don't take any action to correct a problem. I thought it was unfair because I seemed to notice more problems than other people. Why should I have to fix it just because I happened to notice it when no one else did? So I would try to pretend I hadn't noticed the problem. But that just meant that I was lowering my consciousness and I always felt guilty about it. So lately I've started trying to take action to correct problems when I notice them. Even if it isn't technically my responsibility, I try to pretend that it is. If I am aware of the problem, then I am required to take some action to correct it. This might just be as simple as bringing it to the attention of whoever is responsible. But if they don't fix it, then it's still my responsibility to make sure that it gets fixed.
Thanks again for the post. I wish my dreams were that meaningful.
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If I am aware of the problem, then I am required to take some action to correct it..

..I wish my dreams were that meaningful.
Amanda, you just gave yourself your first assignment! It's not that Erin's dreams are more meaningful than yours, it's that she's looking for meaning in her dreams, and people tend to find what they're looking for.

Your dreams are more rich, meaningful and rewarding than you could ever imagine -- all you have to do is look! And now it's your responsibility to do so!
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Ask your guides to send you a dream that will:

1. help you
2. guide you
3. explain something to you
etc.

Then watch and see what you get. If you don't believe in guides, ask your subconscious to send you the dream.
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Great post! Thanks for being willing to receive messages and then pass them on to us. There's a little thing happening in my community that I've been disturbed about, but I can think of a million reasons why I "can't" do anything. After reading about your dream, I'm not listening to those reasons any longer.
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I just thought of another thing. Even if you don't want to take responsibility for that bread, you'll still suffer from knowing it's getting stale. How much productivity will you loose from leaving it out compared to if you just fix the problem?

If you don't take responsibility for fixing the problems that bother you, you will be bothered by them for a long time. If you don't fix that problem and someone else does an hour later you will still feel guilty for not taking your responsibility even weeks after the incident. I still feel guilt over things I neglected years ago, probably because I still haven't learned this lesson properly.

Fix the immediate problem first, then schedule time to fix the underlying problem that keep making the same problem appear over and over. Repeat until the bread doesn't get left out any more. Remember to take a new approach every time you confront the people who leave it out.
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Trezker, yes that is an important point. Keep putting the bread away while addressing the underlying cause until one day no one leaves the bread out and you don't have to stand vigil any longer.
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heh...in the restroom at school today, I dried my hands and tossed the papertowel in the trash. My hand was on the door when I noticed several damp, wadded up towels near the trash can - in the vicinity of the trash can - kinda sorta close to the trash can - but not actually IN the trash. I thought, "Geez! Why can't people get their papertowels in the trash!" and took another step towards the exit.

Stopped. Picked them up. Disposed of them properly. Went back to class.
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The Responsible Decision

The first of Seven Decisions one must make to achieve personal success from Andy Andrews' The Traveler's Gift.

I had the awesome opportunity of seeing Andy at a conference last year. He is an awesome story teller and he had me captivated for hours with laughter and tears from his personal stories. His book is a must read for anyone on their journey of personal growth.

The first is I believe one of the hardest to achieve. If you are honest with yourself, we have all at one time at least wanted to blame others for what has happened. But wait! You have the ability to choose. You have the ability to make a decision. Now if that decision be the wrong one - it is you and only you that made that decision. So take responsibility! Sure is a tough one at times.

For everyone's convenience you can view all Seven Decisions on my blog if you do not yet have Andy's book.

The Seven Decisions to Personal Success

Make it a great one - you deserve it!!
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That takes me back to the dilemma if big changes in the world are caused by single individuals or... mass awakening or so...

We talk about conscience worldwide awakement... but well... taking a look at history... it's all about a bunch of people. Kind of the Sgt. Pepper's Beatle record cover (Jesus, Hitler and Gandhi were censored out)...

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and we go back... Columbus, Newton, Jesus, Buddah, Muhammed, Edison...

It was not a mass awakening but Columbus the responsible of the finding of America.... just one person?
It is possible that those persons were the channels/conduits for the vibrational asking of the people. Just a different way of looking at it....
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