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08-23-2007, 03:48 PM
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 |  Over 3 Years of Depression
It been over three years now that ive been suffering from depression ive kept it to myself although im sure people just need to take a look at my life to see that theres something wrong although most people dont see that im depressed but rather see that im nothing more than a lazy loser. But i know thats not it ive been failing education and now pretty much lost my chance at a high level education due to depression im in my early 20's and i have not will to live in fact i lost the will to live a while ago i just cant do anything i dont have any confidence in myself in anything i do. I just feel so lost.
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08-23-2007, 06:33 PM
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Hello and welcome aboard FinalWord... I don't believe that there are easy solutions to your problem... but that being said, it does not mean that there is not hope either... My advice to you would be to stick with this site... lots of successful and happy people here... read what they post... you'll find their secrets and can start to apply some of these in your own life... Also, you can start threads and ask specific questions and get lots of feedback and solutions... Life is not biographical... your past does not equate to your future... you are the one who writes your own biography... every day is a new page... it you start today... you'll see your own story veer toward happiness... The very best of luck to you... . |
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08-23-2007, 06:37 PM
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Start small on fixing problems and be kind to yourself. Are you seeing a doctor for your depression? | |
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08-23-2007, 10:57 PM
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Do you have any ups in regard's to ups and downs? I can relate to your problem but i have had depression for 20 years, with varying degree's, im well on the way up now with allot of thank's to this website and many self help and personal development books. If you dont have any objections, perhaps i could help via personal message's on this site just add me to your buddy list or send me a p.m whatever you like. keep your chin up, karlos |
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08-23-2007, 11:06 PM
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Depression sucks and it seems there's no way out. And three years is a long time. Why do people get depressed? Do you think alligators or birds get depressed? I think what you need is a mission (I sound like the Wizard of Oz here). Try taking a class in vipassana meditation. First you might just need to calm the monkey mind, flitting from this to that. Your mind is jumping around from one not-real event to another or is self absorbed in your ME. You might want to get away from your YOU for awhile. But not on a permanent basis (suicide). sometimes we just get stuck. Slow down, get off the track and just feel now, without the rest of your...stuff. My friend has a saying...it's ♥♥♥♥♥, but it's my ♥♥♥♥♥. |
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08-24-2007, 11:03 AM
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08-24-2007, 01:24 PM
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Its never been to long to start living. I don't knwo if I'd call myself depressed. I know I don't want to admit it to myself! Anyway, you have to stop seeing this as a HUGE thing to do. Break it down. Don't concentrate on other poeple (I know easier said than done!) Think about you and what you need to do to make yourself happy. Just condition yourself not to feel negatively. Read Steve Pavlina - Life Sucks Then You Die. I don't know about you, but it did sure help me. If you need someone to talk to, pm me and maybe we can add eachother on MSN. Last edited by thelittleone; 08-24-2007 at 01:25 PM. Reason: Oops, I made a mistake with the link! |
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08-24-2007, 02:15 PM
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08-24-2007, 02:50 PM
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 hello,everyone.all I want to say is that falling a high level education does't mean everything.you have more much important than college ,e.g. your relaties,friends, family,career..may you happy everyday i'm a student from China welcome you access to my blog: itspy.51.com ------------------ like Shamou says,Life is not biographical... your past does not equate to your future... you are the one who writes your own biography... every day is a new page... | |
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08-24-2007, 05:23 PM
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Hi Try doing some sport, EFT and talking 1-2-1. This helped me many years ago when I hit rock bottom, feeling like I wanted to committ suicide. I joined a gym and had some 1-2-1's. My life is now 180. I still have problems etc. but I know how to cope now and never see myself ever getting that so low again regardless of the situation. I just changed my mind set to start again. You need to stick with it for a few months to notice any real difference. Trust me it works and I think many Dr's are quick to put people on pills instead of telling then to do some sport. |
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08-25-2007, 12:10 AM
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Depression is mainly due to two factors: biological factors and catastrophic thoughts. The Wikipedia article on depression has a good overview. These articles are also very good at describing the basis for depression: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/5/9/83936/58483 http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/5/16/81428/8007 If you want an inexpensive way to treat depression, I recommend the following steps: 1. Change your diet to include a wide variety of fruits and vegetables. Also, reduce the amount of processed foods in your diet (such as products made with sugar and white flour). 2. Take omega 3 supplements, especially fish oil. Magnesium supplements may also be helpful. 3. Read about cognitive behavioral therapy. This will teach you to identify and deal with depressive thoughts. 4. Try to go outside for ten to twenty minutes each day. A lack of sunlight leads to a lack of vitamin D production in the body, which can cause depression. The Wikipedia article I linked to at the beginning of this message also has a variety of potential treatments. If these don't work, or if you feel suicidal, you may want to see a clinical psychiatrist. |
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08-25-2007, 02:13 AM
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Perhaps you should try this. Cure your Depression in 3 Minutes without thorazine. I have not tested it myself, but I thought you might be interested. |
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08-25-2007, 01:43 PM
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Thanks for all the responses guys i really appreciate it. Its good to know that people do care and are willing to listen. I have read up quite a bit on depression but everything I learn gets me happy and motivated for change for a while, then something always happens that puts me off and I'm back to square one.This was great though: "One of the enduring myths about clinical depression is that you can suddenly lift it up simply by convincing a depressed person that life is good and worth living. Likewise, a depressed person will not be magically cured if all their problems are suddenly solved. In fact, it was my experience (and that of many others) that the factors which contributed to the depression were long past and resolved. But they had their physical toll in the brain, and that could not be suddenly undone." I feel I am at this stage my brain is not working properly I want to change and move on but I just don't know how and even if I do my brain just sort of crashes in a way and I just get over stressed and worried about change when I shouldn't. Well actually I was at this stage for a while but like the quote says the physical toll on my brain was not over while I was still in education. And now my chance in education is over and I'm back to being depressed and seeing no point in life and no will to live. I know a lot of people will say that there's more to life then education but that's what I wanted to do. And shouldn't you live your life doing what you want to do that's why I feel kinda cheated in life that due to depression I can never live the life that I want and so reading those self help guides etc. just seem kinda pointless.. And its not just education my social life etc. have all suffered and I really cant see them being the way I want them to be cause I don't see people accepting me (unless though sympathy which I don't consider to be actual acceptance) cause they don't see a depressed man they see a lazy, pathetic loser.. |
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08-25-2007, 07:22 PM
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I was clinically depressed for most of my life. Doctors were throwing valium, anti-depressants at me. Medication helped; therapy kept me in my depression, but no matter what, I had to make the decision to be happy. It was not easy. I took a hint from the 12-step program and act "as if" I was happy and anxiety free. There isn't a reason to make others miserable. I started listening to motivational tapes such as Wayne Dyer and Louise Hay. Their happy, and they had such miserable beginnings so why can't I? Meditation, exercise, diet--all that you have read before me is true. Doing aerobics is a mood elevator. I know it is hard to get out of bed, but just try 20 minutes. I find this forum a life-saver. I am not happy every day and I sure can't listen to a motivational tape at work, so I log on to here. Steve and Erin's blogs are very good source of support. Even though my company has banned most other sites, I can still get through to this one and find out how other people are conducting their lives. I also carry "The Four Agreements" around with me. A friend of mine who was disgusted that I just couldn't get out of it, suggested that I read the front page of a newspaper and volunteer for a non-profit organization. She was right. I didn't like the news, but being a volunteer at a Heart Hospital put my depression in perspective and have been singing my gratitudes since. When I was afraid that I might commit suicide, I embarked on listing five things that I did for myself a day. Some of it was as mundane as brushing my teeth and making a cup of coffee (the bath and dressing thing was just too much at the beginning) But I kept at it and each day I noticed I was doing more and more for myself. I still rely on this list when depression comes back; and the gratitude list of course is very good. I am not too proud to take medication when needed, but I still don't like that therapy thing. Somehow talking about my problems, just keeps me depressed. To stay mentally healthy is something I am entitled to. I work at every day. For this day--I can say that I am happy and not depressed. Keep in touch with your friends at the forum. We care. S |
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08-25-2007, 07:51 PM
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My Psychologist told me that I was not depressed and kept on stressing that I was not so each I said it. I didn't talk to much about my past but he got the drift of it all. Talking really helped me but was how I was feeling at the moment and what I would like to do in the future. Even at the time I just went straight back to bed after seeing my Psychologist. He go to think positive when I didn't want to live anymore. Sometimes I would keep going on and on about my past just to get it all out, I needed to do that sometimes. I would also advise that if your just seeing a general counseller for depression it would be worth it to find a Psychologist or cognitive behavioral therapist. Depression does come back every now and tehn for some people but you need to know how your mind works and do something before you feel low again. I know it's not easy as I've had a bit of a down day today but that was because I was feeling sorry for myself and didn't make any efforts at all. However I can't say I 'm feeling depressed in my life now dispite on or two things. Writing a gratitiude list does help too, I've just got back into the habit of it and would like to continue every day for 30 days then 60 days etc. Also the links that Zukin posted on this thread are very good, thanks Really not sure about the Cure your Depression in 3 Minutes without thorazine link. Sounds like Mike is on a big make with the "switch" imo ...sorry. I think it's much better to give EFT/TFT a go as you can do it yourself at no cost. Yep it's never too late to study. Went back at 24 and I'm also want to do some more and I'm only 35 yrs old. Last edited by MmeIntentional; 08-25-2007 at 08:49 PM. | |
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08-25-2007, 08:25 PM
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You really do have the ability to take charge of your life. It's not easy, but it does require effort and get over the hump of feeling sorry for yourself. Take the first step - make a decision to move forward. Good luck! | |
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08-25-2007, 10:22 PM
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Realizing and accepting that most of my thoughts are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ has changed my whole world. Maybe it'll help you too. I honestly believe that this is the only thing anybody needs to know. (credits go to T Harv Eker) I wish you all the best mate. |
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08-25-2007, 10:24 PM
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Awww, I feel for you! I am 25 myself and have had a long time depression myself, which lead me to do nothing. Believe me this is really hard to live through, but in my town there is a young-adult spycologist-centre for people from 18-25 years old, and I guess that many people that are arround those years suffer from depression since we are all going through a time where we got to get it, that we are in charge and have to take care of our own life all by ourselves, and this let us all feel so alone and lost. I am finally at the end of one of the huge steps in this work, and that is to understand my past and try to understand my now. So now all I gotta do is try to live with now and see any future infront of me. That is the hardest thing I have ever done in my entire life I suppose. So believe me, we are almost at the same place in life, lets see anything good in it! Now were were I? Oh, well I have just one half hour left of this day to try to get some good sleep and a good pattern, that is my starting-point now! |
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08-26-2007, 07:24 AM
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Seriously, check out anti-depressants. Most cases of depression are due to a chemical imbalance in the brain, where there isn't enough natural serotonin. All you gotta do to cure it, is to pick out the right anti-depressant and dosage, and you're all set I myself went through my depressions the hard way, and I regret it. It's not impossible, and maybe you do learn to become stronger, but it just sounds like trying to break through a brick wall when the door's on the other side  Also, many cases of depression are due to functional hypoglycemia, which you may want to check out. Quit eating sugars, sweets, and starches for awhile and see how you feel. Also, if you don't have a pet, force yourself to get one It works wonders. You just can't stay sad with a puppy wagging its tail at you or a cat purring at you |
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08-26-2007, 07:47 AM
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Yes I also regret taking them when I had depression as it made me 10x worse. I'm also a coka cola and sweet freak. When I changed that to having fruit in the morning etc. for 3 months. I did notice a big difference. I can't agree more with your regarding pets. I would love to get a puppy now but I wnat to go on my hols first. It's also a good idea if you have a dog as you will have to go out for walks and you can get to meet people via your pet.  I also try got get out a min of 20 mins walk everyday. I didn't to that yesterday and I can tell you this morning I felt like cr@p. I just had to go jogging to get ridd of that feeling. | |
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Norbet: Most of my thoughts are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ |
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