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Old 04-09-2009, 07:32 AM   #31 (permalink)
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The Sedona issue is:
Could you let it go? NOOOOOOOOOO
Would you let it go? NOOOOOOOOO
When? Later, I'm pissed now.

How does Sedona deal with that?
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Old 07-11-2009, 12:14 AM   #32 (permalink)
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The Sedona issue is:
Could you let it go? NOOOOOOOOOO
Would you let it go? NOOOOOOOOO
When? Later, I'm pissed now.

How does Sedona deal with that?
If you read the book, you would know that Hale says that it does not matter. Even if you say no, you are still releasing
And by the way, it does not make sense that you wouldn't want to let it go since that's the reason fro doing the sedona method in the first place. Hale says that if you are confused about that question, you can ask yourself instead of that question, "would I want to carry this feeling around, or would I rather be free of it?"

Good Luck !
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Old 06-04-2010, 04:35 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I just started reading the book, having picked it up on sale for $10. Hale Dwoskin is really a great author who is incredibly easy and compelling to read, IMO. I found myself able to release some significant emotions just from the first chapter. I had a debit card stolen and all my funds were taken. I used the releasing questions and returned to a state of peace fairly quickly. I was blown away that a personal development technique so simple could have such a profound effect, and that it was accessible within a short read of the book.

I'm not sure if it can live up to the claims of being "Your Key to Lasting Happiness, Success, Peace and Emotional Well-being", but I am certainly impressed at this stage.
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Old 06-04-2010, 06:40 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Thanks for the feedback, everyone! Clearly, each method has something positive to offer, and people respond differently, probably for a variety of reasons.

I know that the first time I tried EFT, it seemed kinda dumb, and I didn't get it. A long while later, I tried it again and it was like magic. So, who knows? Maybe I just wasn't at the right level of consciousness to really understand the first time, or maybe it was presented more skillfully the second time.
Let me ask you a question.

If EFT worked great, why do you need Sedona?
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Old 06-04-2010, 06:51 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Let me ask you a question.

If EFT worked great, why do you need Sedona?
EFT is a physical action. I can't do EFT while driving, for example. Sedona is a completely internal thing - I can do it without taking my attention off of what I'm doing.
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Old 06-04-2010, 03:01 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Sedona is the best tool i have found. It enables release very quickly and very effectively.

Some people still cling to the idea that wanting good things is the way to getting good things and the sedona method and lester levensons wisdom help correct this misunderstanding.

try it for yourself. Theres nothing to lose, except everything, which is no bad thing.
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:11 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I just thought I wanted to reply to this thread cause I want to get the readers
to hear another story.
In my opinion nothing is better than EFT.
For those of you who dont understand how EFT works or say sedona/release technique works and EFT dont...here are my thoughts:
I believe almost all techniques work on the same principle.
You take the bad and you add good. The good can be a good feeling
like many NLP-techniques produce (3D mind etc) or it can be just acceptance
like sedona/release technique, but this also is just a good feeling. Saying yes
is good. When we have problems we say no to them. By tapping, we say yes to them either we want to or not, cause the organs produce good feeling when we tap. This is why EFT in my opnion is superior to all techniques.
You dont have to ask/say anything, all you have to do is to feel the bad and then tap. Also you can tap on someone else even when they dont want to let go.
Sedona/release technique also works, but you have to be able to fully accept mentally to get it to work, and that is usually very hard for newbies.
As for those saying EFT is for small stuff and Sedona is for big, I would say you havent understood how releasing occur.
I have done Sedona/release techniques for 2 years and only EFT for 1 year.
EFT is however superfast and you release even when you dont want to.
Also, the EFT-communety is very large, and the results people have on it is almost like magic. Cancer, depression, MS, CFS and everything else is beeing cured with EFT. Of course you can cure with other techniques, but in my opinion nothing is faster thant EFT.
Personally I did EFT for eyesight by carol look and I threw away my glasses.
Ofcourse the advantage of sedona is that it is only mental, but then again we have BSFF (be set free fast) which was created out of EFT and it is fast!
If you still are a sceptic..buy a HRV(hearth-variation device monitor) and see the physical response in the nervous-system using EFT vs sedona...
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I have not used sedona. I have tried eft only minorly. It seems to me that
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The Sedona issue is:
Could you let it go? NOOOOOOOOOO
Would you let it go? NOOOOOOOOO
When? Later, I'm pissed now.

How does Sedona deal with that?
is a valid point to bring up because if you needed this method in first place it is probably a good indication that you are the self defeating type and this is likely to come up. I think even if your not self defeating that would be a pretty natural reaction from lots of people. I have wondered about sedona method before and I am genuinely curious about this issue. If I felt like I could just let it go no problem I wouldn't need a method

I want to know if others had this problem, for how long, could you move around it. I don't just want to discount sedona altogether but this seems a valid concern to me. Thoughts?
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I want to know if others had this problem, for how long, could you move around it. I don't just want to discount sedona altogether but this seems a valid concern to me. Thoughts?
The Sedona Method includes a few techniques; not just the question approach described above. I think the question approach aims to offer your subconscious mind the possibility of releasing. ie, if you don't release it, your mind still gets the message that you *considered* releasing it. That means that the possibility of releasing it does exist. The question technique offers a "gentle nudge" approach, to just sort of say to your mind "hey, look over here. This exists, too."
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The Sedona Method includes a few techniques; not just the question approach described above. I think the question approach aims to offer your subconscious mind the possibility of releasing. ie, if you don't release it, your mind still gets the message that you *considered* releasing it. That means that the possibility of releasing it does exist. The question technique offers a "gentle nudge" approach, to just sort of say to your mind "hey, look over here. This exists, too."
This makes pretty good sense, thanks.
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Just thought I'd bump this one up. Seems it could be helpful for someone.

I found out about the technique from the book "Happy for no Reason" and am looking forward to trying them out!
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I recently read a book about the Sedona Method and was wondering if anyone here had ever done the training. If so, how does it differ/complement EFT and other emotional mastery methods?
No one seems to know how Sedona method was born.
This is the person who started it all - and this free PDF will let you know more than Sedona method does. Do what he did and be all you can be:

Lester Levenson

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Old 07-25-2010, 05:57 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I tried the Sedona method but it just seems like something you have to do for the rest of your life to let go of all the negative emotions and fears in you. I dont want to spend my whole life rehearsing some questions in my head. Personally it takes alot of energy to do that and it gets quite annoying. Or maybe im wrong. Ive done it for 3 weeks straight and when I stopped doing it it felt as if I was going back to the same old emotions and patterns of thinking. Am I the only one? Or if you work throuh it for long enought the feelings will become permanent and you wont get back to the way you used to be? Im really curious in this.

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No one seems to know how Sedona method was born.
This is the person who started it all - and this free PDF will let you know more than Sedona method does. Do what he did and be all you can be:

Lester Levenson

Gleb
Are you kidding? Both Larry Crane and Hale Dwoskin is saying Lester Levinsons name so many times that I wonder if I am listening to a priest talking about Christ himself...lol. I get it that Lester was a happy fellow and probably had done something right but come on, when I wanna learn something new I dont want to hear endless talks about a person. if you take away the chit-chat in both courses there is really not much meat there.
Also it is a bit frustrating that specially larry crane has just renamed NLP-things into different names and acting like it is something people never heard of.
Dont get me wrong, I think questions is good and it can make the brain shift focus, but to me that isnt releasing.

msquared: You are not the only one. I did Sedona/release technique for a long time. They all focus on doing it 24/7 which ofcourse "work" cause you focus on good stuff, but God help you if you stop, then all the supressed stuff is coming up.
In my opinion no technique should be done all day, then it is bad use of the technique or the technique is weak/wrong. If you clean up most of your past change happens naturally and you dont have to do techniques like and OCD.
Come on guys, if you think about it...if you think about your favourite color 300 times per day whenever you feel bad, wont you feel good/better?!
Maybe I should create Effortless Color-thinking release, and talk about this guy named Color Pink who was incredible happy cause all he did all day long was thinking about his favourite color that he loved so much...lol.
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I've had extremely good results with the Sedona Method- found it gets better and better with time. There were some free audio recordings on sedona.com that walk you through the basic process, and the book you can get inexpensively online to go a lot further.

Basically as I work on it, the experience gets less and less subtle, to where I physically feel an intense positive sensation when 'releasing' energy/memories etc. - and while some above have equated this to just positive thinking, what I've noticed is that when I go back to thinking about the topic/story/etc that always upset me, the intensity has diminished or gone away, showing an actual shift in the way I think about things rather than just distracting myself from it. Definitely recommend it.
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Basically as I work on it, the experience gets less and less subtle, to where I physically feel an intense positive sensation when 'releasing' .
Nothing is better than that it works for you and I salute!
I dont mean those things are just positive thinking allthough in a sense I think they are that, they make positive thinking in a clever way.
But my main point against those techniques is that you probably have to do them alot. Everything works if we intend it to work, so saying something doesnt work wouldnt be correct.
I could be wrong ofcourse, but when you revisit old bad memories you had allready been doing a lot of sedona and you are probably looking back on the bad with "happy" glasses on. When we are in positive state almost all things are good. Take a person who is in love for example. They see pink sky everywhere. Everything in their life can be wrong but as long as they are in love they see everything as pink. When they come out of love their problem are the same.
I cannot say this is how you are operating but based on my own experience with these techniques this is the case.
But if it works for you, God bless!
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... Take a person who is in love for example. They see pink sky everywhere. Everything in their life can be wrong but as long as they are in love they see everything as pink. When they come out of love their problem are the same.
Well, be in love and look at your problems. Feel them. They'll be much smaller and almost irrelevant.
When you in love you see more solutions and less problems. Emotional crap attached to problems dissolves when you look at your problem from the point of feeling love.

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Everything works if we intend it to work, so saying something doesnt work wouldnt be correct.


Hey- thanks for the comment. You know, I actually agree with you 100% - that it is more our belief about it.. I don't think it matters that it is called the "Sedona Method" etc. - though they themselves say that the 'releasing' actually is the natural body process. For me, it's just come down to a simple way of reminding myself what's important.. what I want to do with my thoughts in a situation (ie, do i want to stay angry about this situation, or would I rather drop it and get to focusing on things that are more productive, make me feel better etc.) -- basically I've found it an excellent way of building positive habits, specifically, relaxing my body, not holding on to being angry/frustrated with a situation. I like looking at it that way- I think sometimes the criticism of things like this come from the bold claims of whether or not said process/book etc is going to cure all the problems in your life. Personally, I believe that what they talk about, in terms of letting go of emotions, is like eating healthy food vs. junk food.. one is going to provide you with more energy and make you feel better, and which one you eat is often based on your habits and which type of food you keep around in your house, if that makes any sense!
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I will say though that one of the things I like most about SM is that it's NOT about looking at past problems with a happy face on them- it's about accepting what happened but then to stop looking at the past problems altogether, to just drop it- without going through the process of trying to understand what it meant, why it happened, what it means.. which if you are like me, the mind loves to do and tricks you into thinking you're actually solving anything. It's about just letting go, dropping that- simple but not easy for me to do especially in the beginning, and dealing with what can actually be done now.. if there is something that can be done now to help, do it, and if not stop chewing it over. I like that.
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Well, be in love and look at your problems. Feel them. They'll be much smaller and almost irrelevant.
When you in love you see more solutions and less problems. Emotional crap attached to problems dissolves when you look at your problem from the point of feeling love.

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Well yeah, it wouldnt be bad to be in love all the time...
But here is my view on past traumas...They are stored physically in our bodies.
We can feel good and all that but we can still carry around these time-bombs inside of us. I believe this is why we have cancer and all kind of diseases.
People think problems in the past are just in their head, I think it is wrong.
Personally I was sexually abused in young age and most people would say I am naturally positive by nature and I am, but the physical feeling was totally different when I cleared that trauma with EFT. And I have had skin rash all my life and sensitivieties to food, and those went away like magic.
My point is that before I cleared the trauma I wasnt the sad clown, I was generally very happy and looked positive at my life. In fact I didnt even conciously think about my sexual abuse before I talked to my EFT-practitioner. Maybe you could have cleared that trauma with SM, I couldnt say no for sure allthough I would defently say that the feelings was so intense when we worked on them that I am glad I could tap them away quickly and I dont think I could do a mental process like SM.
My point is however that our problems are far deeper than just in our minds, and it can be deeper than we think and feel before we really dive into them.
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