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I learned lesson from my awful experience but why do i feel too old for a new beginning? I am a person who has been through a terrible failure in life regarding college. I am 25 . I have been a very successful student since the elementary school. Always on top, always in the glory. I used to study even in summer vacations. I have translated two books into ma native language at the age of 16-17. Everyone had their eyes on me and expected from me so much in the years to come. Everything started going downhill when I started college. First I started a college that I didn't like since the college I wanted to go to, didnt accept me. After a year, I started the college I wanted to go to, but also started to be lazy as a consequence of an one-year break, and therefore rejecting the low grades I was taking, since I knew I could reach my hif=ghest potential. As a result of it all, I lost the year in college, which put me in a severe depression I am still suffering from. After that year, I also lost another year, causing my depression to become more severe. I was still in the first year of college. I had lost three years in life doing nothing. After losing also another years, I quit college, since I wasn't able to stan the pressure any more. My whole life was devastated. No one, except my close family and closest friend of mine knew that I lost all those years. So ia had lost four years of my life. Waiting for the light at the end of tunnel, actuall the darnkess in my life became darker and darker. I avoided meetings with my friends, my family and just stayed alone, living with my sweet memories from the past, I've been staying home alone for two years. So I lost six years in my life vainly, and didn' lose only years, but also the ability to study, to think logically, gained fear, and gained the thought that I am too old for everything. I purely think that I didn't deserve this severe reality that devastated my whole life, that made my brain so poor in thinking. Always thinking where I could've been by now, brings me to tears every day, every night. Now I see tons of ignorants who have finished college and are independnt and they feel good that I am not the successful I coould be. I could've reached to Harvard by now if I has the same enthusiasm I had as a teenager. I often think that my life is over. It may sound simple in all these lines, but you have no idea what I've been through during all the past 6 years/ And now I hate God for everything. I even think that hes 'been laughing hard with everything that happened t me. Even getting back the enthusiasm I had as a teenager seems useless and too late. I am seriously crying writnig this letter. Now My question to all of you is. I learned lesson from my awful experience but why do i feel too old for a new beginning |
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| I would say that you feel that way because you believe that you are too old for a new beginning. Dwelling on the past and/or on "what might have been" will ensure that your belief becomes your experience, because that will emotionally paralyze you and keep you from moving on with your life.
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You certainly have a negative view of your past. I don't think we can discard the past; it is woven into the very fabric of our character and being. For that reason, I don't particularly care for phrases like 'new beginnings' or 'new persons'. We can consciously choose not to repeat the old patterns in our life, but that past will be the foundation upon which we chose to build our current and future life. What is important is how we choose to negotiate with our past. We can choose to use our past as a reason to destroy our self-esteem and our self-value. On the other hand, if we choose to do so, we can listen to our past not only to reveal insight into who we are as a person and insight into human nature in general, but also, to integrate our past in a way that paves the way to a more peaceful and fulfilling future. We choose how we respond to our environment, and consequently, everything we feel and do has the potential to reveal insight if we want to listen. May be the reason why you don't want to firmly take direction in your life is because of your relationship to your past? How can you have the will to power when you clearly despise who you currently are? There is no forgiveness or unconditional love in your words; only self-deprecation with a twist of resentment towards others. I think you need to understand and forgive your self before you can move on. Last edited by ZephyrusX; 10-24-2011 at 02:10 AM. |
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Many people out there start their beginnings again in their 30s, 40s , 50s and beyond. If they can do it, then somebody in their 20s like you can certainly do it too. You have 6 years of life lessons to learn from. Really think about your past years and learn from your mistakes as if you were advising somebody who might be entering college for the first time. How would you advise them? Then swallow your pride and stop comparing yourself to others. You are on your own track. Then step by step, do what you have to do to being your new journey again. You will get lots of encourage if you put in 110% in trying. At the same token, you will not get much sympathy from others if you put in zero effort. |
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A part of you knows that and won't allow you to move forward with desires that brought you such suffering. You need to look forward, beyond your adolescent dreams and expectations, so you can see what's really in front of you. Whether you want to or not, you don't have a choice. Your past, including the future you wanted, is gone. If you want proof, just look at the last six years; the fruit of your adolescent expectations. You've become who you are exactly because of who you wanted to be, so every time you try to go back, you'll end up moving forward to the same end that you're stuck at now. You need to find a new way of being that isn't a function of who you wanted to be at seventeen. You need to forget the person you were and the things they wanted. Don't go back to being a seventeen-year-old again; start at twenty-five and look forward. | |
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There is a big myth out there about higher education. In the U.S, only 3% of people who graduate work in their field of study. The job market is littered with people who have degrees and think they are owed a job. I had a so called bright academic future too, and was criticised by my family members for "ruining" my life by dropping out of college. Everybody, including these people in school who were not so bright, seem to graduate effortlessly, and fall into jobs and comfortable lifestyles. Meanwhile I had moved out of my country and was serving coffee in America. It took me years to become legal, years to make my way. I thought I had lost 5 years of my life by working in low paid jobs while waiting for a Green Card. I felt discouraged many many times. Friends and family begged me to come back to my country, they thought it was silly to struggle. Fast forward many years later. I was looking for work along with my friend who is 15 years younger and has just graduated from a prestigious school where they promised her a bright future and got her to part with 20 000 euros. On my resume, I give myself a Masters I don't have. Not only that, but at the job I'm holding now, I had a thorough background check, which means my lie was probably found out, which didn't stop me from getting the job. The reason why I got that job was because of my personality and hard work during an assignment. It's not a prestigious job, but I get more money than most of the people I know who have a masters, and even most people I know who are retiring after 37.5 years of loyal services. In the end, the 5 years I so called lost had no negative impact on my earning powers. I certainly would be making more money and having a much more prestigious job title if I had gotten a degree in a Scientific field, but a masters in Foreign Languages or any Humanities degree is useless. The people who get the prestigious positions are those who have connections.No matter what kind of degree they have. It's a myth that a college degree is going to open the doors to success. It won't necessarily. Use your intelligence, get into the intellectual pursuits that make you happy, but don't put your value on the line because of a piece of paper you didn't get. Get out of the comparison mindset and walk your own path. Last edited by C33; 10-24-2011 at 07:04 AM. |
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i was in my mid-twenties by the time i finished university. And you know what? It wasn't until igraduated that i knew i didn't want to pursue my field of study. In my experience, my age did not hinder my career one bit. I also know of plenty of people who never went to university but have done remarkably well! These guys are awesome at what they do and get paid handsomely for it too. How is this for a late start ... I know someone who decided to become a stock broker at the age of 30, and he was a butcher up until that point. He eventually became a very successful broker - true story! If myself and these people can achieve these things, i have every confidence you can too! |
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Why do I keep thinking that life is over at the age of 25? I ve been through some terrible failures in life and just turned 25, but i dont feel the desire to go on in life because I alway think that in 5 years i'll be 30, in in 25 years i'll be 50, i think that time is flying and thats because i'll never settle down in life. Why do I think about this age thing all the time? I REALLY NEED HELP FROM U GUYS |
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I used to feel like that as well. At 19 I felt like my life would be over at 25. I didn't know what I would be doing, couldn't see myself having a future etc. Now I am 30 and I have changed my outlook (although I still odn't know what I'll be doing in 5 years!). The main difference was a simple difference in thinking. "I can do absolutely nothing and feel the exact same way in 5 years, or I can start doing something fun with my life, and then even if my life is over in 5 years, at least I've had a lot of fun!" So that started to shift my outlook to just having fun in the moment, enjoying right now. From there on it was an easier step to think ahead a bit, like 6 months into the future "if I eat this icecream now, I'll be happy now, but in 6 months I won't be any thinner. Better not eat it then". And from there to a year ahead. That's where I am now, and I am ok with that. I know more or less what is in the planning for 1 year from now, and the rest is one big surprise. And I am ok with that, because I am enjoying the moment! |
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Do you know how to reply to threads? You've started three threads all relating to pretty much the same thing and didn't reply to anyone in them. Was there a reason why you did that? In case you don't know, there is a bluish button saying 'Post Reply' at the bottom left corner of the very last text window. If you want to reply to one post in particular, you can click the quote button that is to the bottom right of the post that you want to reply to. Last edited by ZephyrusX; 10-24-2011 at 08:57 PM. |
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| I agree with Curious Cat that you would be well served to speak with a counselor, and if you get no satisfaction, speak to another one until you find someone who seems to understand. Please do this for yourself, or ask someone for help. It occurs to me, could your difficulty be an undiagnosed learning disability? This is common in very smart people. My family member's 1st year of grad school was totally derailed due to undiagnosed Attention Deficit Disorder ("ADD") and resulting severe depression. She had to take a year off, get on medication temporarily to address the depression and ADD, and take ADD medication to focus sufficiently to complete school. She is now very successful in her career as a teacher, takes no medication, and the curse of this experience has in a way become a blessing, as she understands from the inside what ADD is, which helps her students. You have had a trial and a setback in life, which derailed you from your previously chosen path, but it is possible to come out stronger than ever. Do not think that your life should be settled and set at 25. Many people on this site, including myself, are much older than you, and are happy to have the opportunity and energy to keep making changes in their lives. Last edited by KarenO; 10-25-2011 at 04:49 AM. Reason: Clarity |
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Moan some more, and suddenly another 50 years will pass, and you'll die at the age of 75 wondering how come your last notable achievement in life was 58 years ago. | |
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You are holding onto a dream that has passed (i.e. The dream that you should already be 'successful' by now). And you are grieving over this loss, but cannot accept this, so you torture yourself with the shoulda, coulda, wouldas. This is not professional advice, just my personal opinion, but it sounds like you need closure. Realise and accept that this dream has died and it needs to be buried. Grieve for your loss and move forward and replace your past dreams with new dreams and goals. |
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Fork, at 25, you still have a lot of time to start over. Take it from me, you don't want to be 40 years old feeling the same way you do know....like how I feel. You owe it to yourself to grab on to your life and get to where you want to be now....not later. If you don't, the feeling only gets worse as you get older. I had a brush with a high chance of dying. Let me tell you, it really makes you think about where you are now compared to the decisions you made in the past. Or really, the lack of decisions. So take control of your life now. Before your regrets get worse. |
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I can get where you're coming from. I didn't want to study just for the sake of paper, therefore I decided to take a gap year and go to London to figure out what I want. One gap year turned into three, since the figuring out what I want took longer than I originally expected. Those three years was hard: minimum wage jobs and constant financial struggles are wasn't fun and neither was a severe depression..and none of that is over yet. I was thinking couple of days ago about the past three years and I was like "What the ♥♥♥♥ did just happened?". I get the feeling that I've wasted three years of my life or that I'm too old to sort things out (I'm 22) because I'm carrying so much of that heavy past with me, but these feelings come from a flawed perspective. Here are the main flaws that I see: - Assumption that life happens between ages 20-30. Seriously, our whole generation is acting like they're going to die at their 30th birthday, which is not going to happen in most cases. I'm 22, you're 25, we both have all our lives ahead of us. Isn't it silly to get depressed about being too old at such a young age? It is. Tuning out from the "I must make it till I'm 30" craze really helps to calm down and see a bigger picture. - Assumption that years are "lost" or "wasted". It's not the nature of experience that determines whether years are wasted or not, it's whether you learn from it or not. In my case, it really wasn't that fun, but at least now I know what it means to be broke, starving, homeless, looked down upon, lonely, severely depressed and suicidal. Actually, being at the bottom allows you to observe many interesting things, such as arrogance and lack of compassion from other people. I highly doubt that I'll treat others the same way they treated me once I'm better off. I also have much more compassion and empathy because I know what pain feels like. Actually, I try to regard these three years as universe's way of getting me ready so I'd have the wisdom and compassion when success comes. Now, compare that to living with your parents carefree and going to uni and parties. Which experience is more beneficial in the long run? Only you determine whether these years are wasted by what you do with that experience. You've paid a very high price for the lessons, so it would make sense to learn them, wouldn't it? - An assumption that you've fallen behind everyone else in your age group. I believe that if you learn the lessons from your hard experiences properly, you can use them to get way ahead of people who had the normal life. Really, so what if your classmates have already finished colleges? Do you really think that going to college because everyone else does is so valuable? Or is it that you want to get a proper office jobs and work 9-5 for the rest of your life? If not, when why fuss about it? Seriously, if you get your ♥♥♥♥ together now, you can be a millionaire or a professor in Harvard by age 40, probably sooner and people who look down on you now will still be working in the jobs their hate. Many people who are successful now were considered to be failures at our age, Jesus, we at least managed to graduate from high school unlike some of them. Don't let yourself wallow in the "I'm too old" depression, analyze it logically and you'll see it's simply silly. 25 is a very young age and you have plenty of time to achieve what you want to achieve.You just have to let go of the past and get yourself together. Oh, and about the depression, here: 43 Inspiring Celebs Who Lived With Depression |
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You have way more value than just how well you did/do in school. You're still SO young, there's plenty of time for whatever you want to do. Did you do well in school because you enjoyed learning or was it because of the praise you got from it? Was it both? (Just to ask yourself, you don't have to share that) If it was the learning, what can you do with that? What else do you enjoy? Have you experienced anything else to find that out.... if not, go do it. You have an entire lifetime in front of you. |
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First, do get some professional help for the depression. Regarding the moving forward, I'm over 50 and I've had loads of careers and started at the bottom a few times! Not one single thing that you have done so far is WASTED. It will all become part of the tapestry of your life at some point. You have gained understanding and insights into yourself and others, even if you didn't do well at college, you will have learnt something from that. Many young people have this idea that at 30 it's all over - even in the olden days when I were a lass, I had friends who couldn't begin to imagine what being 30 was like! Now, to me, it seems so young I've said many times, in the modern era, there are very very few people who can say what career path they want to follow for the rest of their working lives! Careers exist now that weren't dreamt of 30 years ago when I graduated uni, others that were 'brilliant' then, don't exist anymore! Working life is expanding as around the world retirement ages are pushed up and up. Specific skills are all very well, but in 5-10 years time who will need them? The skills people need these days are adaptability, ability to keep learning and using new things, new ideas. Around this forum, many people believe you can earn a living online and wonder why everyone doesn't. This option didn't exist 15, maybe even 10 years ago! And who is to say it will in another 15? We can't necessarily imagine how things will change in that time. Ability to start from scratch again many times over may be the most useful skill you can develop! So, pick yourself up, dust yourself down, write a list of 10 things you learnt in the past 12 months - for good or for bad - and how you might use those in future. | |
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Much more optimistic now I'm fitter, healthier and much more together than I was at 25. And yes, I feel young. I would say that in common with very many people, my 20s were the darkest time. Of course, everything hasn't been plain sailing since then, and I've certainly had some difficult times. But you know what, when you get to grand old crusty age and have seen the crud hit the fan a few times, you know, deep down inside, in a way you just don't when you're younger, that time really is a great healer, that that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger in many ways. Take now, we're living through a 'global economic crisis' and 'there are no jobs for anyone let along university graduates' 'noone can afford to buy property' - but guess what, since I was 20, the world has been here at least 3 times with property crashes, mass unemployment and so on! I graduated right into a recession with no jobs for anyone. 500 graduates fresh from uni - the top lot, the brightest and 'the best' defined in some mysterious way, had gained coveted jobs with IBM - about the best company possible way back then - and they were ALL laid off before they even started - way too late to get any of the very very few other jobs that were around. We would do ANYTHING to earn the rent because the social security system for single people was vicious and hard - any staff showing remotely any sympathy towards applicants was taken off face to face work. Even if they decided you were allowed money, your file would mysteriously disappear and you wouldn't get your giro and I remember hiding from the landlady - she demanding the rent and me not got a penny piece and the authorities kept saying 'sorry we've lost your file nothing we can do about it'. It as a tough time. My parents couldn't help me out and they lived in the styx where there were zero jobs for anyone. Life can and does get better! If anyone had told me way back at 25 that yes, one day I would afford a house, and I would be able to give up full-time work at age 47 and I would go back to uni age 40 and get that PhD I always dreamed of, I would never have believed them. Doesn't mean I never get the 'nobody loves me everybody hates me' blues from time to time, but they do end. So anyway, what I'm saying is, you're not finished at all! I do still reiterate what others have said, do get some professional help re your depression, but alongside that, just try that exercise I set for you there, find 10 things you have learnt and start reframing your experience in a positive way. Last edited by CoolBee; 11-02-2011 at 07:21 PM. |
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Fork you cannot imagine how similar your story is to mine. I have my story here : Deep Regret over the past few years of my life and missed opportunites. I screwed up my life. a) Remember you are not alone. Listen to the advice of this people. Don't let regret incapacitate you to take action. You will only end up in the future regretting that you spent your years living in regret. Its a vicious cycle. I know its very hard when you have depression and hopelessness. Its still hard for me to get out of bed in the morning even though I am aware of this knowledge. I am in tough circumstances right now because of my actions and mostly my inactions. My regrets still haunt me deeply and its a struggle to move on. I felt that sometimes no one understood my dilemma. But reading this thread has opened my eyes otherwise. What can I say? Not much except I understand your pain. I lived in regret, resentment and anger for the past 6 years as well. I'm slowly letting go and it is hard. b) Buy and read this book. Amazon.com: Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda: Overcoming Regrets, Mistakes, and Missed Opportunities (9780060973353): Arthur Freeman: Books It might help a lot in dealing with your issue or give you a better insight which it did for me. It utilizes cognitive behaviour therapy to help you release and take action for tomorrow. c) Sometimes though trying to intellectually deal with this problem may not be enough especially when we are emotionally in turmoil. During these storms as I call it logic doesn't help because our minds will not listen when depressed. I recommend EFT. IF you are unfamiliar look it up on google. Heres a good guide for regret: Clearing Regret - EFT with Brad Yates - YouTube d) Take action now! Don't wait anymore longer! Procrastination can be major thing when feeling hopeless. I'm reading a book called "Eat that Frog" right now to deal with this problem. But remember don't try to do everything at once! There is the saying "You can only eat an elephant one bite at a time." Last edited by ProjectX; 11-03-2011 at 05:21 AM. |
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Thanks for that book link ProjectX, looks like a useful addition to my business library. I spent a whole lot of my life in 'should, ought, must' mode and only kicked that habit a couple of years back though it still creeps into my thinking if I don't watch it like a hawk! (The curse of being the oldest child I think - being 'deputy parent') I'll just point out that if you go to Amazon UK site, there are several books with similar titles so make sure that you are getting the right one up! |
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Do you think that God had a special plan with me and someday I'll be a superstar and will feel young even if Ill be 28 and won't have the fear that I'll turn 30? | |
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