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Old 10-20-2011, 02:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Those freaking quebecers, can't stant them, I hate them all, they are so selfish,arrogant and paranoid. I'm a Quebecer(french canadian) myself and it's a shame, I really hate this mediocre province, or state if you prefer. Enough for the quebecers.

Now, the unconsious ones (approximately about 95 % of the worldwide population), poor fools, they act like retarded animals, they get hypnotized by the media,publicity, they scream, they don't give a damn about the environment, throwing stuff in the streets, they work unconsciously like slaves,etc. And I don't seek perfection geez I just want to live in a normal world where people act consciously. Don't even want to have kids because of this, can't even be happy.

Anyone feels the same I do? Just comfort me please tell me that I'm not the only one who feels this way. And by the way I love myself so don't come with the old saying "those who hate others are the mirror of the hated self", it is bs. And I understand that there is a lot of frustration in my thoughts but there a good reason for this and I would be so much happier if people were normal. Never met anyone conscious in my whole life and that makes me sick.
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Is it possible you just take yourself way too seriously and the superior attitude is quite easily picked up by others?
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I believe that anyone who cannot see the potential and limitless in others is still unconscious... once you are concious, you see how everybody is doing the best that they can with the resources that they have, and that everybody is exactly where the should be, right at that moment.
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Why are you creating this problem in your world? Sounds pretty awful.
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I believe that anyone who cannot see the potential and limitless in others is still unconscious... once you are concious, you see how everybody is doing the best that they can with the resources that they have, and that everybody is exactly where the should be, right at that moment.
I love this, and completely agree.

There was a time when I believed that everyone was so unconscious and stupid for following what I considered to be constricting paths. This included people who were in organized religion especially.

Anymore, I see as you mentioned, that people are on their individual paths and doing the best that they can. sometimes I think that another path might serve them better, but it's not up to me to suggest that.

I think that when we believe that others are wrong for what they are doing, it is only a spiritual arrogance that really reflects our own unconsciousness.
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Your experience of the world is a direct reflection of your own inner state. What you put out, you get right back. You don't have to like it (I certainly didn't when I first encountered the idea), and you can dismiss it as "bs," but it's still true.

If you're going to spend your life wrapped up in all this anger, resentment, and drama, and blame other people for causing it, then you will continue to get more of the same. That's just a fact. And if you insist that other people must change in order for you to be happy, to enjoy life, and to feel good about the world you live in--well, good luck with that.

You say you've never met a conscious person in your entire life? I'm not surprised. Coming from the mindset you've expressed here, you're simply not going to meet them. And that's not because they don't exist--they most certainly do. I can guarantee you're surrounded by people who live consciously and mindfully. But they won't be attracted to your anger and negativity, and you won't recognize them because you're too focused on how stupid and unconscious other people are. You'll dismiss them as being full of "bs" when they don't tell you what you want to hear, or offer false comfort by validating your hostile view of the world.
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Anymore, I see as you mentioned, that people are on their individual paths and doing the best that they can. sometimes I think that another path might serve them better, but it's not up to me to suggest that.
I think it is up to us (anyone actually) to point out that there are other paths available.

Doesn't mean that people are wrong for not taking them, but if nobody ever showed me that there is another path I can take, I would still be stuck.

The trick is to teach and show without pushing or pulling. And without any "shoulds" involved.
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I think name calling and hating is included in the ‘retarded animal’ behavior. Seems like you are self referencing. Taking a look at why you are angry at yourself might be very helpful.
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Your experience of the world is a direct reflection of your own inner state. What you put out, you get right back.
Absolutely. What you reap is what you sow. What goes around comes around. Pot kettle black. All that, all correct.

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please tell me that I'm not the only one who feels this way.
I used to feel that way. Eventually, I got over myself.
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Those freaking quebecers, can't stant them, I hate them all, they are so selfish,arrogant and paranoid. I'm a Quebecer(french canadian) myself and it's a shame, I really hate this mediocre province, or state if you prefer. Enough for the quebecers.

Now, the unconsious ones (approximately about 95 % of the worldwide population), poor fools, they act like retarded animals, they get hypnotized by the media,publicity, they scream, they don't give a damn about the environment, throwing stuff in the streets, they work unconsciously like slaves,etc. And I don't seek perfection geez I just want to live in a normal world where people act consciously. Don't even want to have kids because of this, can't even be happy.

Anyone feels the same I do? Just comfort me please tell me that I'm not the only one who feels this way. And by the way I love myself so don't come with the old saying "those who hate others are the mirror of the hated self", it is bs. And I understand that there is a lot of frustration in my thoughts but there a good reason for this and I would be so much happier if people were normal. Never met anyone conscious in my whole life and that makes me sick.
I believe if we were all able to put our minds on the table in full view, you wouldn't find a normal one amongst them. Maybe it's the ideas of normality and consciousness that are colouring your perceptions?

Just an after thought. How do you define a conscious person?

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Old 10-20-2011, 10:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I find this topic as an synchronicity.
Why?
Because I came to the forum now to find the method to calm myself down and instead of finding a topic of that subject, this tread bumped in my eyes right away.
First of all, I will thank everyone who responded to the post because I have found the answer on my question even if I'm not the one who started this tread.

For sure I understand the anger and disappointment because I find the stupidity (if it can be named in this way) all around me. It is not that I hate or blame other people but it is very disappointing and very emotionally painful to be in such a surroundings.
It is hard not to burst in to the emotions for me because I `m very sensitive on everything that happens and when I try to understand this and to deal with them - it is very exhausting.
Perhaps I `m not the only one to deal with this. I `m sure that I` m not and I realize that is very releasing when you say it out loud.

To clarify my point of view I will say that I don `t find myself as an enlighten individual but I don` t blame others for the things that are happening to me. Maybe this is what Omerta wanted to say?
That he know that he is responsible for his life but all the other things he mentioned are hard to deal and to live with them?

The things are like they are and will stay in this way because, like the others said: everyone has his own way and possibilities or luck of possibilities to evolve in something other. I don’t find his topic as an lamentation and as I don’t find it in that way I would like to say that this frustrations diminish down as a person accept that he can make a world a better place only by himself, the one can only take his great efforts to make himself a greater person so he will make a huge difference in his own surroundings and than this change will travel further.
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I would've thought being 'conscious' would mean that you could really accept where people were at. And I'm sure you can find nice people if you just look for them, maybe you are only meeting people from too narrow a social circle and have been unlucky with that?
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Thank you Ryu. I blame the unconscioussness of the humanity. It's very hard dealing with this everyday. Just check the news! It's like a big zoo, which is called civilization, but is a messed society. The only key for me is to simply ignore it, but it's more easy to say than applying it to your life...Just check the articles near my blog...consciouslifetime | Live Consciously
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Omerta, I think you should consider the Einstein quote you have on your own blog.

We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein

So how are you going to solve your problem? Don't say that you expect everyone else to conform to what you want to them do and be, because that's not too likely to happen. You're the one with the problem, not them. They're going about their lives, thinking their thoughts, doing their thing, and you're the one being furious. So, if you can't solve the problem with the same thinking that created it, perhaps you need to change your thinking, as Albert suggests.
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I think that when we believe that others are wrong for what they are doing, it is only a spiritual arrogance that really reflects our own unconsciousness.
okay, so i am new to all of this. What about "bad" people? I get and agree with that most people are just doing their best, but some behaivor really isnt ok... Like rape or murder... Ect.
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Thank you Ryu. I blame the unconscioussness of the humanity. It's very hard dealing with this everyday. Just check the news! It's like a big zoo, which is called civilization, but is a messed society. The only key for me is to simply ignore it, but it's more easy to say than applying it to your life...Just check the articles near my blog...consciouslifetime | Live Consciously
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There is just one ugly word in your post that I don`t understand - blame.
Maybe you put it just by mistake because you didn`t know how else to say what you wanted but you certainly don`t need this word.

It is hard sometimes but it is wrong to blame everybody else for the situation in which we are (like the others said). It is true that we all encounter a situation that has bean produced by others (we live in a polluted world, politicians are corrupted, and the majority gives a dam only for many and similar...) but the main thing is not to blame anybody but to react in the best way to repair or diminish the damage.
Not to blame or hate, but to care and help.

I say this because I remember that there was a time when I was angry at everything and everybody. I wasn`t thinking right than because all of my touts was in the wrong place. I wasn`t thinking of helping or caring but of the destroyed world I was in and of all the actions that lead to that. Instead of giving positive energy to the Earth and the people around, there was only blame and hate.
This is not right because if somebody act in this way means that he is passive. Instead he can give more, make the difference. Not to throw garbage on the road, recycle, learn others with caring and love not with anger because if you show anger to the ones you teach - anger is the main thing that you will get as a feedback.

As CaterpillarWoman said, try to look again your blog and your articles. Maybe they will seam a little bit different if you look at them from the different point of wiew (maybe not now or tomorrow but a few days or months from the spot you are now - they certainly will, just be patient and strong).

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Anyone feels the same I do? Just comfort me please tell me that I'm not the only one who feels this way. And by the way I love myself so don't come with the old saying "those who hate others are the mirror of the hated self", it is bs. And I understand that there is a lot of frustration in my thoughts but there a good reason for this and I would be so much happier if people were normal. Never met anyone conscious in my whole life and that makes me sick.
I'm reluctant to let you know how much this sounds like an inflated ego, because I suspect your ego may prevent you from hearing my advice.

"comfort me please" - - ego seeks to confirm its beliefs and assumptions about the world. It brings "comfort" and gratification to the ego, and your ego is speaking through strongly enough to beg for it.

Because of "the world" you claim you are unable to be happy. You say it would be better if people were "normal." What is your version of this "normal?"

The stuff about hatred is not BS, but it goes further. Virtually all emotions expressed outwardly are a reflection or projection of one's inner state of being. There is a heathly skepticism to be had about my previous claim, and I'm constantly considering that doubt, but I think you can find some wisdom in this.

I forget who said this: "If you want to change the world, start within."
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Those freaking quebecers, can't stant them, I hate them all, they are so selfish,arrogant and paranoid. I'm a Quebecer(french canadian) myself and it's a shame, I really hate this mediocre province, or state if you prefer. Enough for the quebecers.

Now, the unconsious ones (approximately about 95 % of the worldwide population), poor fools, they act like retarded animals, they get hypnotized by the media,publicity, they scream, they don't give a damn about the environment, throwing stuff in the streets, they work unconsciously like slaves,etc. And I don't seek perfection geez I just want to live in a normal world where people act consciously. Don't even want to have kids because of this, can't even be happy.

Anyone feels the same I do? Just comfort me please tell me that I'm not the only one who feels this way. And by the way I love myself so don't come with the old saying "those who hate others are the mirror of the hated self", it is bs. And I understand that there is a lot of frustration in my thoughts but there a good reason for this and I would be so much happier if people were normal. Never met anyone conscious in my whole life and that makes me sick.
Although I'm not originally from Quebec, I've been living there for the past 10 years (in montreal) I have to say I disagree with you.

I think quebecers are great people, and although they're not very conscious and religious, they have a very strong sense of common sense. ( Dans'l genre, ca a pas d'estie'd bon sang.. ). They're not very money or power oriented, and they're the kind of people who loves to be independent, and loves to enjoy life day by day. This might be one of the reasons you think they're selfish, when all they're doing is going with the flow.

Having suffered from depression for quite a while, I learned a great deal from them, that I didn't find in all those personal development books and Brian tracy types. I learned that sometimes you just have to not care about tomorrow, and just enjoy you're freaking beer . If your whole life involves chassing your goals, keeping up with your task sheet and pushing yourself to be more conscious your sure to burn out at some point.

And no, I do not think that they are paranoid. In the contrary, I find they're very relaxed.

They're just a different type of people, and you have to learn to embrace the positive sides of their mentality, as well as reject the negative ones.
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Although I'm not originally from Quebec, I've been living there for the past 10 years (in montreal) I have to say I disagree with you.

I think quebecers are great people, and although they're not very conscious and religious, they have a very strong sense of common sense. ( Dans'l genre, ca a pas d'estie'd bon sang.. ). They're not very money or power oriented, and they're the kind of people who loves to be independent, and loves to enjoy life day by day.
Thank you for your summary of the québécois psyche!
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I'm new on the forum and I'm actually from Quebec City, so I can understand what Omerta is talking about. I guess it might be worse in smaller towns (and I come from a 2000-people village so I know what it is), but I don't think that Québec is the only place where closed-minded people live. I used to see my parents and most of the people in my village as retarded, but THINGS CHANGE. For example, one of my aunts divorced an abusive husband, my mom (who was extremely catholic and "guilt-inducing", and worked in a factory) quit her job last year and is now meditating 2 hours a day and going to all kinds of week-end trainings, and I taught her Reiki level 1 last month. And even I have evolved over time and understood more things.

I think being pissed off is okay, emotions should not be repressed, but maybe you're pissed off about aspects of your life that are not going well enough and projecting it outwards. This happens to me all the time and when it happens, instead of letting myself get too frustrated and not being able to calm down, I pull out my journal and start writing about my frustrations. In the end, it's always about something else.

Tell me if this helped.
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I'm new on the forum and I'm actually from Quebec City, so I can understand what Omerta is talking about. I guess it might be worse in smaller towns (and I come from a 2000-people village so I know what it is), but I don't think that Québec is the only place where closed-minded people live. I used to see my parents and most of the people in my village as retarded, but THINGS CHANGE. For example, one of my aunts divorced an abusive husband, my mom (who was extremely catholic and "guilt-inducing", and worked in a factory) quit her job last year and is now meditating 2 hours a day and going to all kinds of week-end trainings, and I taught her Reiki level 1 last month. And even I have evolved over time and understood more things.

I think being pissed off is okay, emotions should not be repressed, but maybe you're pissed off about aspects of your life that are not going well enough and projecting it outwards. This happens to me all the time and when it happens, instead of letting myself get too frustrated and not being able to calm down, I pull out my journal and start writing about my frustrations. In the end, it's always about something else.

Tell me if this helped.
Thank you for your understanding lysianne ( c'est bon de savoir que je ne suis pas le seul à être comme ca )
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You're 20, right? I used to be like that when I was your age. It will pass.
Everybody has some kind of block anyways, it's just some people have more, but personnally, it's not my job to assess and judge other people's blocks. It would take too much time and energy, and I have better things to do
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