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Old 04-30-2010, 11:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I hope here for some insight, support and advice.

Things are happening fast in my life at the moment, which is good, because it will eventually give me the end result that I want (healthy and sane mind in a healthy and sane body).
But in the mean time I'm going crazy!!

I was serving the soup today and got some hot soup on my hand (not boiling, nothing really happened) and I just started crying uncontrollably.

I tasted the soup, veggies and rice that I was supposed to eat and it tasted like NOTHING and I just almost started crying again.

My husband says something to me and I respond with something extremely bitchy.
I feel like crying right now. No reason. I don't even feel sad. I just feel... overwhelmed in a bad way. As if (figure of speech) all the skin has been scraped from my body and I'm so raw that everything feels (and not good).

What happened lately:

- I've found what I think is my underlying believe (I am delusional)
- I've had that believe run me again today
- Continues internal dialogue on weather it is a limiting believe or the truth (that I never know the truth about myself..)
- We've started a diet (from a doctor) since yesterday and the food we have for lunch daily is HORRIBLE.
- I cannot eat any more sweets, chocolate or chips
- I wake up hungry (I hate waking up hungry!!)
- I sleep bad in the night and have weird dreams during my nap in the day
- (Sorry, explicit) My normally regular "output" has turned into diarrhea and constipation


I'm thinking that part is detox maybe. How long does that take? How much longer do I have to hang on??

Other part is the trying to uncover limiting believes. I'm examining what I am thinking and why I am thinking that.

I didn't manage to go to the gym today, because I woke up hungry and shaking. I couldn't eat, because I hadn't yet bought the breakfast. Normally I go to the gym first and have breakfast later.

Now my mind cannot agree if this is an excuse (which would mean I am delusional about thinking I can go to the gym regularly and be healthy and thin) or if it is a real reason (for which I don't have to beat myself up)

Am I really strong enough to continue this, help my husband continue this? (I am so proud of him btw. He is about 30 or 40 kilo's overweight and he is doing this. I have to continue because if we don't do it together, he won't do it. And he needs it).

pfffff. Talking (even if it is just online) helps.

Any advice, insight, tips?
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Almost started a "Support Sandra" thread earlier

Hang in there, you can do this

I think you're going through a multiple detox now. Physical detox, getting all the stuff flushed out of you, and an emotional one - haven't you said you can sometimes do emotional eating?

That was your way of coping with your emotions and now someone said you can't? The nerve! And now there may be a really strong desire to give in just because you're told not to

So you're dealing with the physical detox and the emotions that you were numbing from with eating... you're very strong to be doing this... you are not delusional...

Well, you're only delusional if you think you're some awful person who doesn't matter and doesn't count. That is deluded thinking right there You're wonderful, amazing, intelligent, insightful, beautiful and full of light. You did not deserve the harsh things you heard in the past Maybe the current process is helping you release those messages

I don't know how long detox takes, I imagine it can depend. But I'm pulling for you. Have you tried other ways to soothe yourself? Like a long bubble bath, some green tea, an exchange of massages with your husband? Indulge yourself with activities that don't involve food, I think it can help.

Oh and be sure you are drinking plenty of water, sometimes we think we're hungry when we're actually dehydrated (and dehydration can make us moody too).

We're here for you - send me a PM or email if you want to okay?

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I don't have a lot of insight, but it makes sense that part of you is resisting the changes you are making.

It helps to pay attention to the part of you that does want to change and give her the reins. After a while, the resistance will realize "oh, you're serious" and go with the new flow. That kind of thinking has helped me cut down on junk food and wake up earlier.

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*hug*

No advice, sorry.
Just wish I could give you a human hug.
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Ssandra, do you ever get really moody (like snappy moody) when you are hungry?
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Ssandra, do you ever get really moody (like snappy moody) when you are hungry?
Yes, all the time

That is usually how I notice I get hungry.. first the moodiness and then the actual hunger...

Why?
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Well, because there is a possibility you may be hypoglycemic. Google it if you don't know much about it. But this site also gives some great info.

When you mentioned shaking that was my clue. I am borderline hypoglycemic (self diagnosed just from reading tons of health books) but I also used to get very moody when hungry, would snap at people, and I'd get shaky and lightheaded. I say *used to* cuz what I've noticed is, since I went vegan and also completely eliminated gluten, the symptoms have disappeared into thin air. I've also stuck to a very healthy vegan diet, whole foods, natural, no processed foods, no junk, not even chocolate! In fact now that I say it, I tend to crave "stuff" during my period, I have it now and I crave nothing.

Anyway, hope that helps.
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I agree with MG I was the same before I got diagnosed being hypoglycemic. But I went the other way - got of carbs and gluten and crossed over to Atkins/Zone.

But dear S just hang in there. It took me 2 weeks to get of carbs! It was really hard but the efect on my body was fabulous!

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Hey Sandra,

I can relate to everything your saying.. I do have some ideas of things that may help. Lol your going to have to forgive me for all the unsolicited advice.

I'll send you a PM x
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Thank you all for the encouragement.

This is about the 5th time this month that the universe makes me see that page about reactive hypoglycemic, so I've stopped being stubborn and actually read it.

It does seem to fit my symptoms very strongly...

When I get hungry I get moody
Before I actually feel the hunger at times I can feel sweat all over my body
I feel dizzy and lightheaded (no passing out, thank God)
I have very sweaty palms that I always associated with being nervous.
But... there have been times where I was nervous and had sweaty palms without there being any logical reason for it.
I get headaches when I'm hungry

All this.. I've learned to associate with hunger but it actually happens before I feel hungry or before my stomach tells me that it needs food...

I'm going to eat more times a day these 2 days and will call the doctor on Monday about this.

Although the diet mainly is fruit and veggies there is also plenty of white rice and potatoes. I'm going to see if I can substitute those for just veggies or different veggies.

The diet also has supplements that need to be taken every time before the meal, so I need to know what to do with those (all natural stuff to help you digest, be less hungry and clean the liver and stuff).

If it is detox and it takes about 4 - 6 weeks... I'm going to stop now. I know that I could handle this a few days, maybe a week, but for sure not a few weeks... and besides, I'm not that unhealthy that all these symptoms should be that strong...

My intuition says it has to do with blood sugar. So I'm going to investigate that some more and get a formal diagnose from the doctor, or try a home glucose test.

Thank you all for your support! It has been a VERY long time that I've felt like this and I don't like it. I want to be my normal happy self again!!
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If you want a carb substitute, beans may be a good replacement for potatoes and rice, since they have a lower glycemic index and glycemic load. Since beans are relatively high in calories, you wouldn't have to start eating three pounds of broccoli a day to make up for the calorie loss when you give up rice and potatoes.
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If you want a carb substitute, beans may be a good replacement for potatoes and rice, since they have a lower glycemic index and glycemic load. Since beans are relatively high in calories, you wouldn't have to start eating three pounds of broccoli a day to make up for the calorie loss when you give up rice and potatoes.
Thanks! That is actually a great idea! I've never been a great fan of beans, but I can eat them and they are certainly better then 3 pounds of broccoli

At least it is extremely easy here to eat beans, where ever you are
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Today I woke up in the middle of the night (4am) from dreaming too much about Carrot Cream soup. I hate it when that happens. Stuff so normal and ordinary and I'm freaking out about it in my subconsciousness (or at least, in my dreams).

Didn't go back to sleep until 6am... did eat some peanut butter and felt a lot better after that. It was the only thing we had that I could eat...

When I woke up I felt ok (9am). Had my coffee, made breakfast (2 sausage and orange juice) and felt ok.

About 1,5 hours later to 2 hours later, I felt like crap. I felt extremely depressed and down.

When I went to the supermarket I was driving and my left leg was shaking so much that it actually became difficult to keep the clutch pressed... I ate a cookie (double chocolate chip) and some soda at the Subway and a miracle happened... about 30 minutes after, I felt GREAT!!

I was happy again, felt in control of my life, could smile again... Wanted to smile again...

So, it doesn't really matter what anybody else says, I know I have to eat at least more times a day then just 3 and other things then just watery fruits like Watermelon, Melon, Papaya and Jicama. Those are very nice, but they don't do anything!

Today and tomorrow I'm going to stick with the diet, just eat more portions throughout the day. On Monday I'm going to call the doctor to explain what is happening and to look for a solution together with him.

If it means I cannot follow the diet, that is fine. I'll just eat healthy and loose weight doing exercise. I'll still eat healthy anyway cause I'm not going to cook 2 different things and my husband is going to stick with this diet.

Thank you all so much for your support! It is great to know that this is a place where I can come with questions or just for support and get it as well!!
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ssandra I eat 5 times a day like a little baby and then it is alright! Try dividing the meals that way. And good luck. BTW the high of the sweet stuff you ate is very short lived.

Look at this site it may be interesting at this moment for you The Glycemic Index

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ssandra I eat 5 times a day like a little baby and then it is alright! Try dividing the meals that way. And good luck. BTW the high of the sweet stuff you ate is very short lived.

Look at this site it may be interesting at this moment for you The Glycemic Index
I agree, this sounds like a good suggestion. A friend of mine gets snappy when she is hungry and so she is careful to eat 6 small meals a day which seems to work well for her. And she looks great too!
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ssandra I eat 5 times a day like a little baby and then it is alright! Try dividing the meals that way. And good luck. BTW the high of the sweet stuff you ate is very short lived.

Look at this site it may be interesting at this moment for you The Glycemic Index
Thanks, I'll bookmark that site.

I know it was short lived, but for me it confirmed that it had something to do with my blood sugar and was not just mentally. If it would just have been mentally I would have felt better immediately, yet it took around 30 minutes.

I'm staying on the same diet, meaning eating the same things, only eating more times a day and replacing the white rice with beans or veggies.
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Thanks! That is actually a great idea! I've never been a great fan of beans, but I can eat them and they are certainly better then 3 pounds of broccoli

At least it is extremely easy here to eat beans, where ever you are
I sense that your life is going to become more "musical" in the near future .
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Orange juice can cause a huge spike in blood sugar (that is why diabetics drink it if their insulin gets way too low), leading to a crash if you don't follow with protein. I agree with eating more meals, more often - every three hours eat something that's closer to a snack than a meal. But if you fill up on complex carbs and protein that is helpful for blood sugar issues.

I've had mild hypoglycemia myself. I find I take care of it by limiting simple sugars and paying attention to whether I am eating complex carbs and protein with any high-sugar items (including fruit juice). So, chocolate is a better option in the long run of a few hours if it includes nuts as these have protein to slow the process of the spike/crash of blood sugar.

I don't remember how the nutrition stuff breaks down, but I have noticed my mood related to blood sugar is better if I limit the high-sugar items, and eat protein and complex carbs when I'm getting weak or moody. Also helps to not go more than three hours without eating.

If you like the OJ I suggest drinking half the usual amount, along with a full glass of water, and an extra source of protein (like 3 sausages instead of 2). See if that helps.

If I go to long without eating, I can sometimes get headaches and dizziness and if I keep ignoring it I get snappy. That all seems worse if there's a lot of sugar in the meal (and something that does not taste sweet can still have a lot of sugar.)

Peanut butter is actually a great choice for blood sugar sensitivity, it has a little sugar (most brands anyway) to provide the immediate relief, and protein for lasting energy to create less of a crash. Most nut butter is a good option for this.

I do not think you should expect a detox to take 4-6 weeks.

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