Polarity and mindfulness

[CroMagna]

My actions are solitary and my environment is reinforcing it. But my thoughts? When you are polarized for inward flow, would you still have daydreams of talking with others?

[Xanafax]

Hmm I try and polarise with The Love side of things, but I don't like that label cos I don't always feel Love, but I feel the connection, and I sometimes think of spending time alone, it rejuvenates me, keeps me grounded.

So I wouldn't worry about it too much.

[CroMagna]

I'm not understanding what you're saying.

[Xanafax]

What I am saying, CroMagna, is that you shouldn't sweat the small stuff. If you wanna live a life of self interest, then don't worry about connecting with a few people, or wanting to talk, it's not going to make the universe reel back and say "Wah? You liar, you love people" You know what I mean?

[CroMagna]

Originally Posted by Xanafax

What I am saying, CroMagna, is that you shouldn't sweat the small stuff. If you wanna live a life of self interest, then don't worry about connecting with a few people, or wanting to talk, it's not going to make the universe reel back and say "Wah? You liar, you love people" You know what I mean?

Are you sure? After all, there's a difference between wanting to live a life of self-interest, say, an objectivist, and being polarized.

[Xanafax]

What difference is there?

[CroMagna]

Originally Posted by Xanafax

What difference is there?

You don't think there's a difference??

Then why was polarity even invented as a concept?

[Xanafax]

I don't mean a difference between the polarities, I mean there is no difference between objectivism and Darkworking.

[CroMagna]

Originally Posted by Xanafax

I don't mean a difference between the polarities, I mean there is no difference between objectivism and Darkworking.

Obviously there is a difference between the polarities. But there is obviously a difference beween objectivism and darkworking, otherwise, what is so unique about polarity?

[Xanafax]

I never said I thought Polarity was unique anyway...

The difference is semantic anyway.

[CroMagna]

Originally Posted by Xanafax

I never said I thought Polarity was unique anyway...

The difference is semantic anyway.

So let me get this straight. You think there's no difference between darkworking and previously developed concepts like objectivism and Satanism?

[Xanafax]

I believe the differences are very slight. LIke I say it is only semantics and the fine print. All things like Objectivism, Satanism, DArkworking, seek to look exalt the self. The enlightened self.

[CroMagna]

Originally Posted by Xanafax

I believe the differences are very slight. LIke I say it is only semantics and the fine print. All things like Objectivism, Satanism, DArkworking, seek to look exalt the self. The enlightened self.

I don't think so. I think darkworking involves completely and only feeding the self, not just being self-interested. Otherwise, what's so unique about it?

[Xanafax]

Nothing. There is no uniqueness.

[CroMagna]

Originally Posted by Xanafax

Nothing. There is no uniqueness.

Then why did Steve invent it? More importantly, how is it that only 1% of the population is part of it?

[Pace]

My opinion is that balance is key. Not balance between light and dark, but balance between self-interest and compassion.

You can't take good care of others unless you first take good care of yourself. But if you focus entirely on yourself and don't care about others at all, that's where the opportunity for darkworking comes in.

On the other hand, if you focus entirely on others and don't take good care of yourself, that's Lightworker Syndrome. You end up not being able to help others effectively because you're not in a condition to help anyone at all.

However, self-interest and compassion become the same thing if you believe that we are all one.

Does that make any more sense, or am I just muddying things up even further? (:

[CroMagna]

No, I get what you mean. Darkworker Syndrome is an important concept to bear in mind.

[John Prophet]

I always assumed that Steve had based his concept of darkworking on Satanism, which in turn, is a philosophy which is (at least partially) based on objectivism. Basically, I interpret Steve’s darkworking idea as a broader, general attitude and things like Satanism would be more specific variations of that. This same thing would apply to lightworking and the many various religions and philosophies which could fall under that category. According to this definition, all Satanists would be darkworkers, but not all darkworkers would be Satanists.

By that standard, you might be tempted to argue that darkworking is just another way of saying, “left hand path religion”; however Steve’s polarization idea seems to be a little bit more all encompassing and goes beyond basic religion. So you could say that darkworking is a less specific or broader form of this kind of thinking. It’s a larger philosophy, which has many sub categories and applications. In that way, polarizing, in its simplest form, can be seen as choosing your basic attitude towards life and how we will approach the world. Of course, everything else in your life will be built upon that basic decision and attitude; which is why polarization is so important.

By the way, CroMagna, I love your signature. I vaguely remember comic book icon Stan Lee saying something very similar to that.

[Asmoday]

Originally Posted by CroMagna

So let me get this straight. You think there's no difference between darkworking and previously developed concepts like objectivism and Satanism?

I think the two of you just hit a communication snag.

But, in the end, I gotta side with Cro -- you can be Objectivist, as I understand the term, without being Polarized.

[Asmoday]

Originally Posted by CroMagna

Then why did Steve invent it? More importantly, how is it that only 1% of the population is part of it?

But that's where I have to correct things. Steve did not invent the terms or concepts of Lightworker or Darkworker -- he came across them in another personal development book. However, he was the first to explore the concept in a blogging medium to such a wide audience.

He mentions it somewhere, where he came across it, I just can't remember where and don't have the time to dig.

That person may have made up the *term* Lightworking and Darkworking, but they were describing a principle of the universe / human psyche which has been around for a long, long time. Its just been referred to a lot of different ways, with a lot of different names.

This is similar to the way that gravity always existed, before we catalouged it, named it, and experimented with it as empiricists. It was always around, and people knew if they jumped off a cliff they would fall, before anyone came along and called it gravity.

[CroMagna]

Originally Posted by John Prophet

By the way, CroMagna, I love your signature. I vaguely remember comic book icon Stan Lee saying something very similar to that.

Thanks!

[Zeniues]

As I understand you can never take too much care of yourself. Selfishness is good, egoisticness is bad. Taking care of your needs and giving yourself love leads to move love, which you have to spread as compassion, you can't hold it in if you want to.

If by darkworking you mean egoism, which is to work on things that improve your status in one way or another, I agree that it is bad. But you can never be too self loving as I understand, it simply overflows and shares. And compassion can never be done, it can only be shared involuntarily. When you have love, it shares as compassion. If you try to give compassion without it coming naturally, you are pretending.. Which hurts both yourself and the recipient.