A burning burst of ego

[ar81]

Today I have had a burning burst of ego.
A guy who use to try to discredit reasonable arguments, to the point that I think he is just trolling, based on his ego, caused my ego to have a burning burst.

He stated that there is enough food and it is being stored to raise prices.
I said that usage for biofuel causesshortages that cause inflation.
Debate turned into an almost flame war. He says that I shamelessly question authorities in a field with merely opinions, that I have intellectual hipocrisy, and he says his sources are not crap while I quote FAO and BBC and he says I am babbling. I answered with lots of acid irony, using his very same words against me.

It tells me I have to get my ego under control.
I do not like my ego to engage like that...
Any advise to keep ego under control?

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by ar81

It tells me I have to get my ego under control.
I do not like my ego to engage like that...
Any advise to keep ego under control?

Don't argue with anyone. Arguments are great fuel for the ego. Just don't engage in them.

[Dannyboy1]

What are you defending? Is it worth fighting for? No. Fighting is not the way to enlightenment. What either of you believe is of no importance. Next time, observe and don't identify with your feelings of righteousness. Just observe outside of your emotions.

[wolfgang]

Trying to control your ego creates the ego

If someone pisses you off, say so - don't sit there and wonder if it's your ego or not. That will just suppress it and make it bigger next time. If someone gets you worked up just go into reflective listening mode. See if you can get the other person to re-iterate what they said until they see they are being mean or dishing out some other kind of abuse. Often others don't realize what they say and if you feed it back to them they hear themselves and change their attitude. Also they change because they feel listened to. Or it just helps you see what they are saying and you don't need to react as much out of just being curious about what they are actually trying to say.

But don't abuse people just because you are pissed.

And be rational.

However, if you take nothing personally it's hard to get all worked up at someone having a different view that yours.

[ar81]

Two egos fight until one person can defeat his own ego.
Then we become friends

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by ar81

Urwumpe is a great test for defeating ego.
Two egos fight until one person can defeat his own ego.
I hope I will be the one who defeat mine.

The ego is not something to destroy. It is something to heal. You must shed light on it and slowly strip it of it's beliefs until it becomes a part of you again. The ego holds all the burden even though the burden is imaginary.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1

The ego is not something to destroy. It is something to heal. You must shed light on it and slowly strip it of it's beliefs until it becomes a part of you again. The ego holds all the burden even though the burden is imaginary.

To heal the ego may not be to make part of you again. That's what the ego is doing - making things up to be part of a self. All the beliefs about self is what the ego is. Strip the beliefs away and the ego doesn't become part of you, the ego appears to not exist (or to be be created in and of itself). perhaps, imho...

[ar81]

Hmm interesting. So you are suggesting that in case of conflict I do not think that the attack goes towards me, ego will not show up.

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

To heal the ego may not be to make part of you again. That's what the ego is doing - making things up to be part of a self. All the beliefs about self is what the ego is. Strip the beliefs away and the ego doesn't become part of you, the ego appears to not exist (or to be be created in and of itself). perhaps, imho...

I'm talking about transforming the ego. Eckart Tolle talks about it in The Power of Now. It will never be gone. It is already a part of you, but the you behind it all sees it for what it is and will be ever observant.

[Dannyboy1]

You sound upset at a discussion between total strangers. Is that strong? Or weak? Is that you? Or your ego? Strength comes from hearing and understanding without letting yourself be affected to the point you lash out. The true definition of strength.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by ar81

Hmm interesting. So you are suggesting that in case of conflict I do not think that the attack goes towards me, ego will not show up.

An attack to feel like an attack needs you to take it personally - that's what the ego does - takes everything personally.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Urwumpe

You don't get it, will ya? So, if you still don't know about your "ego" I'll be pleased to help you, for a change:

In this thread: Trapped in a triangle - Orbiter-Forum you moan and ♥♥♥♥♥ that you cannot deal with conflicts, and you continue to play some kind of victim.

Now you continue in this place with your rants, when does it stop? Deal with your problems in your real life (Your wife is spending too much money, oh dear...) and shut down your internet connection until you find your way to behave like an adult.

You generate drama and you are just craving for attention. Grow up.

We have a great button pusher here don't we?

Why do you care if the OP in this thread is doing what he does? It seems like you, as viewed as an attacker to this OP, is feeling attacked by his victim role that he is working on.

Why is this in front of me? How to see the One in this junk? Look for win/win - would you guys?

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

We have a great button pusher here don't we?

Why do you care if the OP in this thread is doing what he does? It seems like you, as viewed as an attacker to this OP, is feeling attacked by his victim role that he is working on.

Why is this in front of me? How to see the One in this junk? Look for win/win - would you guys?

Seems many prejudgments occurring.

[ar81]

Please remove quotes about Urwumpe. He is not the true Urwumpe. Urwumpe is a friend of mine. We had our differences in the past but now we are friends. What you saw here is a case of identity theft. Urwumpe is a great guy. Unlike this thief.
Urwumpe would not say what he did.

This thief must have a big ego, for he is hunting me down across the internet.
At least the one who went after John Lennon had the excuse of being a paparazzi of someone famous.
I am Mr. Nobody. History books will not remember me. Magazines or newspapers either, just a 21st century common man.
Imagine how unhappy someone must feel to hunt down a Mr. Nobody like me.

If I was Elvis things would be different...
(gonna tell you a secret, I am Elvis, just do not tell anyone)

[ar81]

I forgot to add.
Thanks to the thief/hijacker for showing me how my ego worked, and thanks for relating it to the drama triangle. It was really useful.

Now I am playing detective to catch the actions of my ego to issue a case against my ego.
He probably wanted to annoy me, but that was of great help.
When I succeed, the hijacker will have no ego in me to poke.
There is not like a case in real life, to observe myself like a scientist would see his experiment. I willl learn a lot from it, you bet.

You caught mein a very good moment, when I was tired and overworked.
It is great that apparent problems end up being tools for personal growth.
It would be a problem if I kept having my ego. But it is great now because I want to get rid of it.

I discovered that defending my ego causes me to be unhappy.