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Old 08-12-2008, 07:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Emotions resonate with Linkin Park lyrics

Again I'm experiencing myself falling down the "levels of consciousness" ladder. And again I notice, that my inner feelings can be perfectly described by Linkin Park lyrics. I hate it already, I want to release from this prison of apathy, fear and disbelief. But..."oops it happened again"....

Now, after reading fresh posts about wealth from Steve and Erin, I feel like this song perfectly describes:

"Everything you say to me
Takes me one step closer to the edge
And I'm about to break"

Full lyrics here

Somebody help me....
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Old 08-12-2008, 08:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey, what's going on? Are you saying reading the posts brings about negative thoughts for you? There are lots of ups and downs, and any emotions you feel and the way you react are valid. We just need to strive to take the positive things we can, and move in positive directions - I understand though that that can be hard, depending on the situation.

So, what's going on?
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes, sometimes (like now) posts are emotional triggers, which bring negative emotions to me. This is a common pattern for many people, which Steve describes, too.

But what I want to understand for myself - where is the end? Am I still resonating with those songs? I don't ignore my emotions, I move, I act, I work. But sometimes things go hard and it comes back....
"I am a little bit of loneliness, a little bit of disregard
Handful of complaints, but I can help the fact, that everyone can see these scars"

Is it my core nature or something?

While searching those lines, I've found another song. It perfectly describes my strange relationship with one girl I met here on forums. Seems like I'm attracting these songs in my life. If you're reading this, here are the words I always wanted to say to you, but lacked my writing skills. Linkin Park helped me to materialize them into written form:

"Sometimes I feel like I trusted you too well
Sometimes I just feel like screaming at myself
Sometimes I'm in disbelief I didn't know
Somehow I need to be alone

Don't stay, Forget our memories, Forget our possibilities, What you were changing me into, Just give me myself back and
Don't stay
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Old 08-12-2008, 01:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Listen to more positive music.

I'm sure you know about affirmations. What do you think your subconscious makes of all this input that you are giving it? Stop feeding those thoughts and emotions.

I'm still doing that. It is hard to leave something like music which has moved you, behind. But I'm finding new music which "resonates" much better with me now. I can listen to the old music, it's full of good memories hanging out with my friends, going to festivals - good stuff. But I don't like listening to that sort of music as background for very long.

Occasionally though when I am angry and I want to get through it, I will put on heavy metal, and just use those emotions to get stuff done.
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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For about half a year I've been listening to mostly new age music. And I haven't listened to Linkin park since a year ago. And I won't.

But when things go hard... that mood still arises. Am I cursed by myself?
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Linkin Park does make music that resonates highly with negative beliefs. Don't get me wrong, I love [old] Linkin Park, but they bring out the things in me that I usually try to ignore. That's part of why I like them so much, because their songs are so phenomenal at helping me understand the darker side of myself. Your response doesn't come from the song, it comes from yourself. Do you have the courage to love that which you hate most in yourself? To love your enemy as yourself because it is they who define you as much as you create them? But those are just words. I know they are frustrating; they frustrate me as I'm sure they do you. But isn't that what's so great about them?
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That type of music really boils down to holding on to pain in your past, and the times you may have been wronged or hurt. The music Industry lives and dies by relationship songs "the one thing everyone can relate to"

I liken the type of "group think" centered around music to something similar to a story like this: A Father's daughter was killed by two black guys, therefore he seeks justice by joining the KKK and perpetuating the acts of violence committed by those two men". He gets a sense of refuge, and acceptance by being around people who are at his same frequency.

Although not as drastic there are many parallels to your situation. You find a sort of comfort knowing that there are other people who bask in the pain, fear guilt or whatever. It is possible you feel a sense of Identity through it as well. If you didn't have that pain, or guilt to occupy your time what else would you do with it?

No one can tell you right path to take, but it really has to start with finding the reason for the negative feelings. It can be something like feeling neglected or abandoned by a parent from a separated family. Maybe its a Girlfriend that wronged you. (I personally dealt with that for a number of years.)

I can tell you that once you are truly able to let go of that feeling, the music will almost seem foreign to you, and you the desire to listen to it will go away completely.
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Maybe its a Girlfriend that wronged you. (I personally dealt with that for a number of years.)
Yes. That person is my wife.

It's a great irony for me, but now I've got that clarity I desired so much. Who knew it would be so plain and hard, and can't be confused with something else? I remember myself, asking some lame questions about clarity here in forums. Like "the next step in my PD is gaining some clarity... how to get it? oh, I have some ideas, but I'm not sure..."

What's even more funny - Steve wrote so often "people deny the truth", and I thought "anyone but me". How could I be so blind? I denied that core truth all the time. I thought "ok, my relationship is perfect - she loves me and I love her" (that's true). But I ignored the fact, that any relationship has to be cultivated. I ignored the times when things went tough ("it's just the wrong mood, it will pass"). I drank. I tried to run away... Hihi, another LP song Oops, how funny... My subconscious mind talks again:"I wanna run away, Never say goodbye, I wanna know the truth, Instead of wondering why
I wanna know the answers, No more lies, I wanna shut the door, And open up my mind". Sometimes it's kinda scary when all these metaphysical things show themselves, isn't it? Well, at least something positive in their lyrics.

So... and I also tried to quieten my feelings by music. Avril Lavigne's song comes to my mind. I'll just put several lines here: "When I'm alone, I feel so much better,And when I'm around you,I don't feel".

If you're interested, find the lyrics of the song "Together" by Avril Lavigne. It's already too much quoting here. But I'm re-reading its lyrics and understanding, that, every dark and painful thing contains also an answer. Sometimes the answer is really perfect. The Cloud, is this what you call "understand the darker side of myself"? Or, at least, these lyrics contain the perfect truth about someone's life, who feels a strong resonance (like me).

But why we are not willing to listen? So often... Why we run away from the truth? Because it's painful?

The end of the story, which is (as always) actually a beginning. Yesterday I understood by intuition what we've summarized here by logic. And I acted accordingly. I tried to talk to my wife... again. I took her to a dinner, and we talked about our feelings and our relationship. I beleive, that she, at least, understood me. She agreed, that our relationship is far from perfect, and that we should work on it.

I know, that my words are maybe "too general". If you want details - read Linkin Park lyrics. They describe things in English much better, than a guy from Russia
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Without Pain, what would we know?

Pleasure is fleeting, security is an illusion. The Journey is all we have.

Good luck with your relationship.
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"Everything you say to me
Takes me one step closer to the edge
And I'm about to break"
Bands like Linkin Park and Staind and about a million others tend to focus on blame as a release for negative emotions. Look at the lyrics, it's all about how the singer's problems are someone else's fault. It's really popular these days, especially among spoiled, self-hating suburban youth. I call it "blame-rock".

It's one thing to feel bad, but there is no need to indulge in and justify your anger. Blame is a deadly trap, don't go celebrating it. Listen to something more insightful. Music can be much much better.
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A prison of apathy, fear, and disbelief is a problem. It's just the prison bit that's the problem, though.

Apathy, fear, and disbelief are rational emotions. I feel them every day. And I feel fine.

If you're feeling imprisoned by these emotions, try laughing in the face of the universe. Then laugh at yourself.

Animals, like everything, are just not-so-special complex clouds of elementary particles, best I can figure. Life is probably very weird and very pointless. But it can also be very fun. Many cognitive psychologists contend that humans are hard-wired for happiness. Take advantage of this fact! Go cliff-jumping; cook a stew. It won't matter eons from now, but stew can be pretty dad-gum tasty.

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Oh, also. Tom Waits is great music if you're depressed. I'd try 'Orphans', Disc 2.

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