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Unhappy Somone trying to sell me somthing scares me away

Hey, in the many sites i find that have helpful infomation I always start to question them because they will be selling somthing like Site build it. Its like they have load sof helpful info then when they have an affiliate recomendation on it I get put off because there is the posiblity that they are just doing it to sell some of the product. This is kind of irashonal i think, because i know its posible its just a good product they are trying to recomend and maby make some money aswell. But yeah, I just find myself questioning somthing when there trying to sell me somthing. I know Site build it for instance pays a very high amount to people like $150 for every $300 product they sell. So this would be a good way for a scammer to lie just to sell somthing. theres lots of examples of blatant internet scams that also add to this fear for example The Rich Jerk - The Official Website
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There's nothing inherently wrong with selling. What matters is whether the selling aspect is aligned with truth, love, and power. Is it honest? Is it done to provide people with a real benefit vs. ripping them off? Is it empowering? Selling can be polarized either way.

There are ways to sell that pull you out of alignment with truth, love, and power, but you can also remain aligned with them. It depends on the intention behind it.

For example, before I'll consider recommending a product here, it has to satisfy a strict list of 14 different criteria. One criterion is that the product has a money-back guarantee, and the publisher has a history of honoring that guarantee when requested. This way there's no serious risk of loss for people who want to try the product.
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There's nothing inherently wrong with selling. What matters is whether the selling aspect is aligned with truth, love, and power. Is it honest? Is it done to provide people with a real benefit vs. ripping them off? Is it empowering? Selling can be polarized either way.

There are ways to sell that pull you out of alignment with truth, love, and power, but you can also remain aligned with them. It depends on the intention behind it.

For example, before I'll consider recommending a product here, it has to satisfy a strict list of 14 different criteria. One criterion is that the product has a money-back guarantee, and the publisher has a history of honoring that guarantee when requested. This way there's no serious risk of loss for people who want to try the product.
Yeah, That is very reassuring thanks very much
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Imagine what kind of feedback you'd get if you reviewed and sold the Bible.

"Awesome! Greatest book of all time! Glad to see you spreading the word!"

"Worst book I've ever read! Shame on you for selling it!"

You can't please everyone, but when you can help match up the right product with the right person, that's a very rewarding part of selling.

Yesterday I was talking to a guy who worked in sales for 25 years with great success. What he enjoys most is being able to connect with people and help them solve their problems.
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Imagine what kind of feedback you'd get if you reviewed and sold the Bible.

"Awesome! Greatest book of all time! Glad to see you spreading the word!"

"Worst book I've ever read! Shame on you for selling it!"

You can't please everyone, but when you can help match up the right product with the right person, that's a very rewarding part of selling.

Yesterday I was talking to a guy who worked in sales for 25 years with great success. What he enjoys most is being able to connect with people and help them solve their problems.
very nice way to put it Thanks alot =]
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many sites i find that have helpful infomation I always start to question them
Questioning whatever you read is a good idea.
Before you accept ideas, it's valuable to question them regardless of whether the person has a financal interest or hasn't.
Some people simply give bad advice because they don't know better.
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For example, before I'll consider recommending a product here, it has to satisfy a strict list of 14 different criteria. One criterion is that the product has a money-back guarantee, and the publisher has a history of honoring that guarantee when requested. This way there's no serious risk of loss for people who want to try the product.
If you posted that it'd be the personal development equivalent of Joel Spolsky's list of criteria for quality code (the Joel Test: The Joel Test: 12 Steps to Better Code - Joel on Software).

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Unfortunately you can't always control what ads Google will pop on your website. I see really good blogs providing real value, but the Google ads seem to be total scams, which doesn't always look pretty for the blogger providing the value.
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Unfortunately you can't always control what ads Google will pop on your website. I see really good blogs providing real value, but the Google ads seem to be total scams, which doesn't always look pretty for the blogger providing the value.
This is one reason I'm transitioning away from the ad-based model. I've already lightened up the Adsense ads on the site, including removing most of them from the home page. My goal is to remove all Adsense and text link ads from my site by the end of the year.
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Hey, in the many sites i find that have helpful infomation I always start to question them because they will be selling somthing like Site build it. Its like they have load sof helpful info then when they have an affiliate recomendation on it I get put off because there is the posiblity that they are just doing it to sell some of the product. This is kind of irashonal i think, because i know its posible its just a good product they are trying to recomend and maby make some money aswell. But yeah, I just find myself questioning somthing when there trying to sell me somthing. I know Site build it for instance pays a very high amount to people like $150 for every $300 product they sell. So this would be a good way for a scammer to lie just to sell somthing. theres lots of examples of blatant internet scams that also add to this fear for example The Rich Jerk - The Official Website
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My friend, the best things in life are free. The rest is secondary and can be purchased for particular amounts of currency.

No there isn't anything inherently wrong with trying to sell something, but I agree that a lot of internet affiliate marketing seems like a pyramid filled with nothing but hot air. I'd recommend trying to find the information for free, and don't buy any elixirs, creams, or devices that you think will change your life.

The reality is that some marketers/salespeople care and some don't at all. Also, if they didn't have to (or want to) make money, they would be on a beach somewhere drinking margaritas and kahlua mixes out of coconuts.
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Hey, in the many sites i find that have helpful infomation I always start to question them because they will be selling somthing like Site build it. Its like they have load sof helpful info then when they have an affiliate recomendation on it I get put off because there is the posiblity that they are just doing it to sell some of the product. This is kind of irashonal i think, because i know its posible its just a good product they are trying to recomend and maby make some money aswell. But yeah, I just find myself questioning somthing when there trying to sell me somthing. I know Site build it for instance pays a very high amount to people like $150 for every $300 product they sell. So this would be a good way for a scammer to lie just to sell somthing. theres lots of examples of blatant internet scams that also add to this fear for example The Rich Jerk - The Official Website
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I gather up what I can and don't bother to buy something when it can be found just as easily on Google.

And I've got a policy for websites with advertisements. Even if they have wonderful information, if their advertisements are too flashy and cause my eye to draw toward them then I'll hit the back button and never return.

That said, and speaking honestly, Steve's site has been dangerously close to my tolerance level for it. Not that there's anything wrong with selling what you can, mind you.

Just that it's like trying to pray in church when someone has the radio going on "Sunday Sunday SUNDAY! TRUCK-O-RAMA, Buy your tickets NOW!!!"

Very distracting and imo acts to ruin the original message that was intended.
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