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Old 06-16-2008, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Emotions are tools?

So does anyone else think that emotions are tools to be controlled and used, rather than "experienced"?

I know it's kind of a vague and sweeping statement, but It's just something that's playing on my mind.
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What could you do with emotions? I've always thought of emotions as more of an error-checking system, telling me whether something feels right or not. If you take control of the error-checking mechanism, how would you know where your thoughts and actions are erring?
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default yes. they are.

Tony Robbins talks about that a lot.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So does anyone else think that emotions are tools to be controlled and used, rather than "experienced"?

I know it's kind of a vague and sweeping statement, but It's just something that's playing on my mind.
I think emotions have two aspects. The seemingly involuntary and the somewhat voluntary.

For the involuntary (however we set up the conditions for these feelings to arise) I think emotions are signals to ourselves for how we are doing in what we desire. How far off the mark we are will be reflected in our feelings.

For the voluntary (as much as we are able to imagine a feeling state from within) I think emotions are what the universe listens to. It is the language to the quantum world that then becomes manifested. That when we "ask" it is a feeling state. We put ourselves into the feeling of that which we desire as if it already exists, then the universe listens and makes it so.
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Once you've generated lots of good feelings it can be nice just to wallow in them.
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Old 06-16-2008, 10:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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AL, How coincidental that you started this thread today. I've just finished the Amazing Power of Deliberate Intent. Abraham teach that our emotions are definitely tools. There's even something they describe as an Emotional Guidance System.

I've found it very inspiring and I'm excited with what I've learned!
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I have to control my emotions daily. They are very powerful, almost too powerful, and I can easily say or do something to anyone at any point to completely ruin a relationship, based off of a passing emotion, and I have before.

Besides just repressing them, what else can you do with it?
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I have an inkling that there are two types of emotions, but I really have trouble distinguishing between them at the moment. I have a much more definite policy on thoughts.

Currently I let all emotions leave me. They always try to take me away from being conscious so when they appear and I have seen them, I take them out.

I don't try and push them down, I take them out.

I don't consider them as a tool to use, my consciousness is much better.

But I don't include intuition, peace to be emotions, rather to be qualities of consciousness.
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I have an inkling that there are two types of emotions, but I really have trouble distinguishing between them at the moment. I have a much more definite policy on thoughts.

Currently I let all emotions leave me. They always try to take me away from being conscious so when they appear and I have seen them, I take them out.

I don't try and push them down, I take them out.

I don't consider them as a tool to use, my consciousness is much better.

But I don't include intuition, peace to be emotions, rather to be qualities of consciousness.
what if you imagine something - don't you feel something that way? Otherwise it sounds like you don't listen much to your emotions - just walk on by them. is that fun to be conscious to the point of not enjoying feelings?

Having feelings that are good for your body that don't produce stress can be a good health practice. of coarse there is stress if you really like an emotion to the point of being sad if you aren't feeling the good stuff.
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I think emotions and feelings are linked to the way you think and then by controlling you thoughts you can control your emotions to an extent.

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A man at work the other day called me fat because I was eating a pie for lunch and didnt offer any to him-in which case I would have to offer to the whole 30 people in the room really. I was in shock-

if I had of thought the way I use to think I would get terribly upset for being greedy and think I deserve to get fat-even though I am actually considered underwieght for my height.

But because I have adapted to thinking the way I do now I laughed my head off and told him to point out where he beleived I was fat. I actually enjoyed it.

This happens all the time now, things that use to upset me now I enjoy as silly joke or a learning experience, Even when I had a rather large fight with my partner recently over something I think is very serious instead of missing him and crawling back to him and telling him about what he has done wrong, I did cry and then I thought, wow I have so much time on my hands to work on everyhting on my to do list, wow this is excellent no longer are my emotions partially attatched to what someone else does.

Now I pull my emotions into check, if I get upset or depressed I tell myself I choose to be happy and continue smiling-until the smile becomes genuine and enjoyable which it always does.
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what if you imagine something - don't you feel something that way? Otherwise it sounds like you don't listen much to your emotions - just walk on by them. is that fun to be conscious to the point of not enjoying feelings?

Having feelings that are good for your body that don't produce stress can be a good health practice. of coarse there is stress if you really like an emotion to the point of being sad if you aren't feeling the good stuff.
When I imagine and visulise things emotions do arise. But I don't identify with them, the same as I was saying before. I take them out. At times later on if certain emotions occur often I sometimes meditate on them to try and identify what the root cause of them is.

When I am free from emotions and thoughts I can feel something that feels like a core constant element. That is always there. Yet it doesn't affect my awareness like emotions do. With that element I feel at peace and happy. This version of happy is really hard to describe, it doesn't take me away from the core element like other emotions. It feels consistent with my what I identify as my core. This is what I identify as the second type of 'emotion' that I don't really understand.

I laugh, smile, talk (albeit less than most ), comfort and all that like other people. I'm not sure which feelings you describing that are good for me that I'm missing out on.

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Old 06-17-2008, 06:50 AM   #12 (permalink)
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this is no offense! you sound like a dead man walking. i usually see emotions as my guiding system. they help me to find my way. but i know I AM NOT MY EMOTIONS. thats a big difference though.

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