For those who want to suicide...

[leshka]

Go as far away from your environment as possible.

Go as far away from people you know.

Go to third world country where nobody knows you and stay there for couple of years.

You will find yourself completely changed, you will see world and life differently you basically will be reborn.

We are deeply conditioned by our environment and people who surround us. To start a new life you have to break out of present limitations, you have to breath fresh air in and feel different vibes.

When I lived in Ukraine (I am Ukrainian) I met several Americans who worked there with Peace Corps organization, those who couldn’t fit in American society and were depressed and even suicidal. Now those people happily married, have kids, good jobs and so on, some of them returned back to US, some decided to stay for good in Ukraine, but all of them are happy people now. What caused those drastic changes?

I think first reason was relocation to a third world country. You can’t think about suicide when you are surrounded by people who never think about it (we all know that people in poor countries more immune to suicide thoughts, they are too busy with their general survival). Different atmosphere, different vibes and energy. Second reason, your old outlook and conditioning disappear just because it is not valid anymore in a new environment. Third reason, people from different culture would see you absolutely differently which would change your self-image very much. People in third world countries mentally are much closer to each other, I guess because hardship and difficulties are easier to overcome together ( instinct of survival?) so you will never feel alone and find lots of new good friends.

So, before you leave this world jump into another adventure where you will realize how much you are valued, loved and needed. Learn absolutely different life that you never experienced before and the outcome may surprise you so much. Google for “Peace Corps” and find out more about the organization. I wish you much luck and a long, happy and rewarding life

[Gene]

Originally Posted by leshka

Go as far away from your environment as possible.

Go as far away from people you know.

Go to third world country where nobody knows you and stay there for couple of years.

You will find yourself completely changed, you will see world and life differently you basically will be reborn.

I moved to a third world country, The Philippines, in 2000 and find all of the benefits you mentioned in your post. I was not suicidal but I did need to reflect on what direction I wanted to take in my life.

I joke with my friends that running away from home is not for everyone but it worked for me.

I am now moving back to the U.S. with the family I have created here and am ready for the next phase of my journey.

[anamoly]

Your post really resonated within me. I would love to travel to a third world country. Thanks for making it!

[missing]

do you honestly believe someone on the cusp of ending it all can find the will to throw out everything familiar and start anew in some third world backwater?

nice try, though.

[bellemeadows]

You know, you spoke a profound wisdom in your post. Thank you!!!!

Blessings from Belle,

[norbert]

I strongly believe that you are unable to discover who you really are until you leave your family, friends etc for at least a couple of months for the first time. Especially if you're contemplating suicide, you should really find a way to leave all your past garbage behind and give it a try. One thing you may discover is how valuable your current life and the people in it are. Another thing is what and how you need/want to change to feel fantastic with your life.

[DaleCall]

Originally Posted by missing

do you honestly believe someone on the cusp of ending it all can find the will to throw out everything familiar and start anew in some third world backwater?

I think I would... I think it's the other way around, if you're willing to end it all why wouldn't you try a less drastic alternative first?

[missing]

Originally Posted by DaleCall

I think I would... I think it's the other way around, if you're willing to end it all why wouldn't you try a less drastic alternative first?

well it depends on the person really. For some desperate people the idea might work. But I think in most cases the kind of person willing to drop everything and start anew some place entirely different probably couldn't have been very suicidal to begin with. People tend to crave comfort and certainty and when they don't get enough that is when they start lapsing into hopelessness. In many ways these cravings are illusory and perhaps some would realize this if they took the OP's advice. Then again maybe doing such would really send them over the edge. But that's almost irrelevant because when you are truly hopeless/suicidal it's simply taking that first big step that is often the biggest problem, never mind where you are going and why.

In short I think the OP's advice comes from the perspective of somebody who has never felt seriously suicidal/hopeless. Which is normally the case. That said I do think that anybody willing to off themselves should try a shake up first, and really brainstorm the list of things they can try in life before making the "final decision". Just do it on a smaller, more realistic scale than what's being suggested by the OP.

[MrNotebook]

Originally Posted by missing

do you honestly believe someone on the cusp of ending it all can find the will to throw out everything familiar and start anew in some third world backwater?

nice try, though.

...ever heard of courage? It takes courage and strength to pick up and move elsewhere. That is to be commended.

[Veradb]

Originally Posted by missing

do you honestly believe someone on the cusp of ending it all can find the will to throw out everything familiar and start anew in some third world backwater?

nice try, though.

I have to agree (in part) with Missing.
Have you ever been depressed ? I do.
I did not had the courage to get out of bed in the morning.

I had not the courage to, sign up for working in a third world country
Say goodbye to family and friends etc


The idea is good ,its just when you are depressed, severe depressed , you just want to be left alone.

[leshka]

Originally Posted by Veradb

....
The idea is good ,its just when you are depressed, severe depressed , you just want to be left alone.

I do believe that every depression case is unique depending on the personality, health conditions and other things. But I also beleive that every depression case doesn't happen overnight, it builds up and growing gradually. Some people get too depressed, to the point where there is no way back and they usually kill themselves. But at any stage before that point there is a chance to reverse depression back to normal state. Lets say that relocation would be good at early stages when person still have energy to work and move around.

From my own experience with depression, I was at that state as long as the circumstances that I hated were present. As soon as those circumstances disappeared my depression disappeared too. There is always the reason (trigger) for depression to occure.

[Old Soul]

good post!!!!

one that needed to be shared :-)

[jwalls91]

Although your advice is definitely situational, I believe it applies absolutely to the niche you are targeting. In American society, few place value on their friends and family. Our materialistic culture dominates us, and when inferiority complexes are imposed upon us by the media, we have no backdrop of social support. Relocation to a culture with emphasis on the values we lack just may alleviate the problem. Excellent thoughts.