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|02-09-2008, 04:39 AM||#1 (permalink)|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Why do good positive people get killed for no reason?
My best friends uncle, who i have known since i was 6yrs, was killed yesterday morning in a line of duty. He was a police officer and on the force for over twenty years. He was killed during a hostage situation with a young man who shot and killed his father and two brothers and then he shot my friends uncle and another officer. He was only 51yrs old, and very good nice person. I remember him always smiling and seemed bright and very nice always. He was a very Christian man, went to church alot, volunteered alot with different philantropies and organizations within his job and church. But he gets killed? Why him? He left behind a beautiful loving wife who is always so happy and positive and two kids, 13 and 15.
Why do you think good people just get killed like this? It really puts me in perspective about my life, that you just never know when, you just gotta live i guess. I'm still in shock and just can't believe it. For the people that have knowledge about spirits and stuff like that, do you think he will go straight to heaven or whatever you want to call it, or in pregatory? just a random question.
here are a couple stories about it...please keep the family in your thoughts and prayers as i am.
Man who killed family members, officer had history of mental illness - Los Angeles Times
|02-09-2008, 07:33 AM||#2 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: The Darkness / The Never
Death is a random thing. The universal order - law of nature - doesn't care if someone is good or bad. Remember these are just subjective labels given to someone.
If I was being spiritual, I would say that he will be finding peace in the Astral Dimension, no doubts he will be angry with what has happened, and it will take time for him to come to terms with the finality of the situation.
If I was being cynical I would say, hes dead. Its unfortunate to some, just another news story to others. As Gertrude says in Hamlet; "Thou knowest tis common, all that lives must die, passing through eternity"
Live and let live.
|02-09-2008, 03:47 PM||#3 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Perhaps he was done, fulfilled his purpose, and was called Home. To those who believe in the afterlife, death is not a punishment.
Erin Pavlina, Intuitive Counselor
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|02-09-2008, 03:59 PM||#4 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Raleigh, NC
All infinite soul energy chooses it's path and lifestyle, dates of birth and death, parents, lack of parents, methods and other nuances of life before they are reborn into a new incarnation.
Everything that happens to us, even things deemed "bad" and "good" by we humans, happens for a reason. The "big-picture" reason is for us, as a whole, to learn important lessons that we perpetually refuse to learn as individuals, societies, and as a species.
Perhaps the "humanity lesson" reason your friend's uncle's life ended as it did and when it did was to teach us, all of us, a lesson about compassion toward people with less mental stability than we possess. All of these perpetually dramatic mass killings in the news lately all have the same underlying cause: people with obvious mental illnesses that are 1) ignored by society and the people closest to them, 2) often taunted rather than helped, 3) left to their own devices, 4) shunted around by agencies that are paid by us to not shunt people around who need help....many reasons.
When I was the person who asked the questions you asked with regard to your sad loss, I was not in a place, spiritually, to understand what I understand now. Chaos reigned in my world. Bad always seemed to outnumber good. We were always a random act of violence away from annihilation....Not a very positive or spiritual place to see the world from.
It takes time and effort and a lot of understanding to see the good in the bad, and the bad in the good, for that matter. But it really is the way of things.
|02-09-2008, 06:02 PM||#5 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2007
but like Erin said, I don't think death is punishment. It just happens. We only label those events as "bad" because of our emotional attachment to those people.
I had a friend who died a couple years ago at the age of 23. He was unlike any other person I've ever met. He had the brightest spirit... there was some kind of untouchable aura about him that made him so genuinely sweet and blissful. He left behind so many people who had been touched by his amazing personality... and I still don't understand the "reason" that he was taken away at such a young age, but I do know that it taught hundreds of people a very valuable lesson: live as fully and intensely as possible, be kind to others, always be appreciative, have fun, and put your heart into whatever you do.
There's no point in dwelling on the "whys"...
|02-14-2008, 04:12 AM||#6 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2008
To ask why "good" people die is to assume that there is a god or force that organizes life to be fair as we conceive it. It implies that "good" people are "rewarded" with things like long life, health, etc.
Those would all be bad assumptions.
Note what I haven't said here. I've offered no opinion about the existence or character or God, for instance. My point is that however you care to slice it and dice it, if there is a system to how these things happen our minds are way too puny to understand it. It looks enough like "random" that we might as well call it that. My philosophy is that if it walks like a duck, smells like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then treating it like a duck is a good idea, at least for practical purposes.
Over the course of my life I've lost, in order, a good friend and his wife, my mother, my oldest brother, and my own wife to various forms of accident and illness. My wife's passing after five years of the most intense suffering imaginable was by far the worst. There is no circumlocution or baroque rationalization that will ever render what happened to her acceptable to me -- death was the least of it, really, and a mercy. It would have been far easier for me to accept if she had been shot and died instantly. So there is the problem of suffering, not just untimely death.
The only thing I can say about all that at the end of the day is that we are designed to be incredibly resilient and we can bear much more than we think we can. God, or the universe, or whatever, is more interested in our character than our comfort. We can and do move on, and if we choose to be grateful for the good gifts and lessons that our deceased loved one gave to us, we find that they are present with us in a very real way. My wife took part of me with her, and left part of her with me. In spite of the pain of loss and separation, and all the crud that I don't understand, I am at peace because I've loved and been loved well, and I have everything I need to be content and happy.
I don't pretend to understand the "system", or whether there even is one. Smarter people than me have striven with that issue for centuries and the result is as many ideas about loss and death as there are about religion. The world seems to be made to keep certain things from us, at least in this life.
That's okay, though, because I no longer feel any great obligation to understand everything. If it's not all explained to me, that just has to be okay. If I can let that bit of my ego go, as well as the part about everything working out as I had planned --- well what do you know, I can still enjoy life immensely. Life is a funny thing that way.
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