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Default Airport Delays in the UK. A solution?

Ok this is super-controversial and I know alot of people here will disagree vehemently, but please, give it due consideration before you strike me down in a rage-induced tempest of Forum-Flame.

In the UK we are experiencing unprecendented delays because of the heightended security in the wake of this Terror-phenomenon occuring.

Frankly its a joke. I for one, am embarassed that a security offical asked me to throw away a bottle of water because it was more than 100ml. Yeah because the 16 year old White Kid from Yorkshire is gonna be a terrorist...

What everyone wants to say, and sadly no one WILL say, is that the only Terror Suspects America and the UK have to worry about is Muslims.

As racist, controversial and hate-filled that may sound. Its true. Have you ever heard of a Catholic, protestant, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, Athiest, Zen-Buddhist, Scientologists etc...being a terrorist? (and if some smug forum member decides to dreg up some weird, obscure news report about one of those people being a terrorist I swear to the great spaghetti monster in the sky... )

So stop wasting time checking my bags, restricting me, causing me stress, when I am not the the one you should be worrying about. The delays would vanish if you just restricted Muslims. The 80 year old Women, who just wants to get home, does not need to be badgered because her medicine bottle is too big to take on the plane....

Unfair? Very.

Racist? Probably, by definition.

The only other safe solution I can think of is...hmm giving up all religion...but thats just one step too far right?

To the UK government, if you happen to read this:

Grow a pair and crack down on the Viral infestation that is religion! Before we all suffer under rules and regulations to save us from ourselves.
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Here in the US, we had Timothy McVeigh who if I am not mistaken was a Christian. I'm just sayin'.

I can't wrap my head around racial or religious profiling.

Also, there are many Muslims who are not of Arabic descent. And I would wager many of Arabic descent who are not Muslim. Would you ask everyone their religion? And what compulsion would they have to tell the truth?...particularly if they were a terrorist?

I am a 27 year old white female, but I could be a Muslim.
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Are you a Muslim?

Are there any white Muslims ON this forum?

Does anyone KNOW of any fundamentalist White Muslims...because if you do, I will gladly bow down and apologize sincerely...but lets be honest. There arn't.
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No, I am not a Muslim, but I am pretty sure we have our share of white Muslims in the US (perhaps it's different in the UK). I will have a look around and see what I can find.
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Have you ever heard of a Catholic, protestant... ...being a terrorist?
IRA, Loyalists, Ulster Freedom Fighters...

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The delays would vanish if you just restricted Muslims.
What do Muslims actually look like? What do Muslim terrorists actually look like? How about this: Muriel Degauque

If you start actively discriminating against Muslims, then how is this different from the early days of Nazis discriminating Jews? I live in the UK and frankly we've brought this squarely on ourselves. If the Government keeps humiliating Muslims, then what do you expect in return?

Come on, don't play into the Government's hands. They want to look for ways to restrict every British citizens freedom. By blaming foreigners, Muslims, immigrants and other minorities.
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What do Muslims actually look like?
Thanks, UHF. That's what I really wanted to say. How do you know someone is a Muslim?
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Have you ever heard of a Catholic, protestant being a terrorist?
errr hello?!! Ever heard of Northern Ireland??? Wakey wakey!!

You've embarrassed yourself slightly there mate... not just by your ignorance of the facts, but also your blatant racism.
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All of this would be largely solved if nudism were standard policy in public places

That or let everyone who has been thoroughly screened (showing both weapons proficiency and mental stability) and given a license carry a revolver with glaser safety slugs (won't pierce an airplane hull) wherever they go. Shooting rampages tend to end much more quickly when other people are armed.
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Um, okay. Let's solve the problem of terrorism by discriminating against the group that has the most grievances against. Yeah! The fact that 99% of them have as much to do with terrorism as I do doesn't matter at all. They LOOK like terrorists, therefore they must be singled out at airports and subjected to intense humiliation!

I agree that the airport restrictions are stupid, but they should be gotten rid of altogether, not just for everyone except Muslims.

And there are plenty of white terrorists, as people above me have pointed out.
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Ok slight hiccup there with the Catholic and Protestant Terrorist thing, in my haste to make my post I forgot the whole IRA thing.

Ok let me level with you. When I said Muslims, I was simply angry with Muslims.

The real solution. Find a way to get people to wake up from the delusion that is Religion. Then not only will airport security be relaxed (Have oyu ever heard of an Atheist Terrorist?) but the whole entire world will change...

I am not racist...just Anti-Religious.
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(Have oyu ever heard of an Atheist Terrorist?)
That depends on whether or not radical environmentalism counts as a religion, with the Earth Liberation Front and the Unabomber as two examples.

Earth Liberation Front - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The ELF was classified as the top domestic terror threat in the United States by the FBI in March 2001"

If you'd like a longer list go here for anarchists, Leftists, Communists, Leninists, Trotskyists, Maoists, Marxists, Anti-Fascists, Ethnic Terrorists, Anti-Communists, ecologists and more:

List of designated terrorist organizations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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As racist, controversial and hate-filled that may sound. Its true. Have you ever heard of a Catholic, protestant, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, Athiest, Zen-Buddhist, Scientologists etc...being a terrorist? (and if some smug forum member decides to dreg up some weird, obscure news report about one of those people being a terrorist I swear to the great spaghetti monster in the sky... )
Being ignorant of history isn't helpful if you want to be taken serious in political discussions.

Terrorismus is a way of waging war that requieres little resources. You have to be a have a lot of money to hire an army and do war the "proper" way.
Spain, France and Great Britian have seperation movements that use terrorismus.
In germany we have had the RAF who was a Communistic terror organisation. On the other side we also have Neonazis who commit terroistic acts (sure our political terrorist don't make sucide bombs, but they make still bombs).

If one side (the state) tries to dominate such a conflict through force the other side (some revolutionary group) might also want to use force. It can't do proper war because it doesn't have the resources and does terrorismus.

Unfortunatly our western way is to settle those conflict through force as seen in a lot of American bases in the middle east.

The idea of using more force, be targeting sigeling out muslims in airports in pretty bad.
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Personally I think all extremists should be lined up against the wall and shot.




(and as I'm sure there will be someone who doesn't get it... that was irony ok. It's also why 16 year olds aren't allowed to vote - rolls eyes and sighs deeply).
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