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Old 08-01-2007, 02:54 PM
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Today I was thinking what kind of people will make history ? Analyzing past we can see that people who where well known where warriors, people who conquered territories, artists, and some political figures. In the latest years I've saw that celebrities, actors, singers, and people who practice sports write history.

I want to write history, what's the right way to write history in future ?!

I was a little vague in this topic, but with the purpose that a lot of people with their replies will fill that vague hole.

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In the latest years I've saw that celebrities, actors, singers, and people who practice sports write history.
In the latest years... It's all in what you said. they haven't written history. they will be forgotten in another 50 or so years.

If you want to make history start up a project that will endure when you're gone. A foundation maybe, or start a campaign to change an important law.

but i must say that to change history you need to do something that will cost you lot's of pain and difficulty to achieve because it's generally something very big. you have to outshine millions of people to be recognized today, think of what you have to do to have recognition left in a 100 years!

I don't think that wanting to change history is a great enough motivation to actually be able to do it. You have to change the world in a way that you really want it to change in. Something that comes straight from the heart.

Like mother Theresa or Hitler to name two opposites. They really wanted something and worked all their lives on what they thought the most important things to them and then they wrote history.

An idea of just wanting to change the world is not enough, you have to know what you want to change and dedicate your life to do it.

Or you're life has to be dedicated by circumstance, like when a war breaks out and you happen to become a leader by "accident". But I shouldn't wait for that.
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You need to do something exceptionally great. Write a very popular book, start a multi-billion dollar business, make a great invention. It's very difficult, but possible.
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Today I was thinking what kind of people will make history ?
Probably the ones who provide the most value, or who makes the biggest difference in the world.

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Analyzing past we can see that people who where well known where warriors, people who conquered territories, artists, and some political figures. In the latest years I've saw that celebrities, actors, singers, and people who practice sports write history.
On a historic scale, I don’t think actors, singers, Hollywood types, etc. would have that great of an impact. Do you think you will be reading about the latest Brad Pitt movie or Britney Spears song in the next 500 years?

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I want to write history, what's the right way to write history in future ?!
If I wanted to be a historian, I’d probably attend college to take some history and English classes, and read / study as many historic texts as I could.

Hope this helps
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How do you not make history? You do it by existing.
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Simply put, you have to do something memorable.

It can be good (Ghandi, Nightengale, Martin Luther King Jr.)
It can be bad (Hitler, Napoleon, Stalin)

It can be a talent (Rembrant, Bach, Michaelangelo)
It can be ideas (Galileo, Plato, Socrates)

It can be a great invention (Wright Brothers, Marconi, Louis Pasteur)
It can be a daring adventure (Columbus, Louis and Clark, Neil Armstrong)

Some things that are left that might make your mark in history:
A talented sculptor. (all that seems to exist currently are "modern art" people)
A talented leader. (haven't seen one since Hitler. Yes, I know I'm going to catch krap for that one, but... He took a country that was very small, and very much in debt, and came very close to taking over the world.)
A talented explorer (first on Mars)
A talented inventor (cure for aids/cancer/common cold... fully electric car, quantum computer)

There are others, but you get the point. You have to do something that makes a massive impact. (hint; acts of evil rarely make it. how many people remember the name of the DC sniper?)
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(hint; acts of evil rarely make it. how many people remember the name of the DC sniper?)
You mean John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo?

Who doesn't remember them?
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You mean John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo?

Who doesn't remember them?
I don't know who they are.
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I don't know who they are.
The DC Snipers

I was just making a joke about their fame (There not really that well known).
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Oh. I was thinking they must've been people involved with 9/11. Heh.

Yeah. *coughs* Um, I don't pay much attention to idiots.
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From what I understand so far, breaking expectation is one of the first important steps to take. Exercising your creative potential to create the kind of value which hasn't ever been present before. A self perpetuating contribution to the world which is incredibly useful and hopefully will endure the changing perceptions of humanity throughout the ages- can adapt to change.

Presenting and acting upon an idea that could be applicable regardless of how old it might become, something which has the potency to mold the perceptions of the masses in a significant way; which often meant that the individual was incredibly active in their pursuits of developing said idea or ideas. A trail blazer, not at all mediocre or generic, willing to be laughed at for his or her thoughts and/or actions. The ones who I admire most would have to be Leonardo Da Vinci and Shakespeare: Da Vinci because he didn't limit his areas of study and effort, he displayed the creative possibilities of the mind in many ways. And from what I know of Shakespeare he wrote almost all the time, dedicating himself to what he did and creating some truly great works and influencing the phrases that people widely use even today(from what I've heard).

So it could be said that I'm becoming more and more convinced that creative thinking and a incredible amount of effort is needed in which to be create great change and to influence humanity even centuries later (or should I say 'working smart'?)

I think a great curiosity for the world and confidence also play a significant part as well.
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By being genuinely exceptional. There is a lot of fake exceptional people these days who are no more then marketing myths.
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By being genuinely exceptional. There is a lot of fake exceptional people these days who are no more then marketing myths.
Your are completely right. This is a trap someone can easily fall in and then feel like he is important for a time. But later he will realize that it isn't valuable and find that he feels he has accomplished nothing.

If you want to be someone that will change history, pick a cause and go for it with everything you can and be genuine. Then you will be remembered no matter what, at least by the people that share your goal.

Then you have written history.
Then you can lie on your deathbed and think that you have gone out and done everything you can for a goal you believe in.

Just think about it very hard what it will be, what you will put your heart into.

I am currently searching for just that.
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