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Old 06-24-2007, 01:12 AM
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Hey guys I know there are quite a few threads on people using the find your purpose in 20 minutes method unsuccessfully and I am one of those people. I spent about 4 hours total on it today, and I'm a little frusterated that I can't find an answer.

I don't think I have any intense beliefs blocking my success, and I think I have a fairly good context for finding it. Rationally I believe I am an expression of consciousness, and feel fairly confident in that. I'm just wondering how many people have been successful with this, or does anybody know of a different way of finding your purpose? Or should I just keep pushing through?

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Here's a response I gave in another thread:
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If you're trying to find the "correct" purpose for yourself, the denial wrapped in right/wrong can block you from receiving your answer.

If you get your purpose and it is something boring, what are you going to do? Argue with it? There isn't some life-plan set about by spirit guides you need to find. You are a creator, and you create in the moment. You purpose moves and flows as you choose to change it.

Now, if you have a desire of what you want to do now or the very near future and seem stuck, are procrastinating, or just floundering, we can probably help you with that. There the problem is not purpose, but movement.
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Hey guys I know there are quite a few threads on people using the find your purpose in 20 minutes method unsuccessfully and I am one of those people. I spent about 4 hours total on it today, and I'm a little frusterated that I can't find an answer.

I don't think I have any intense beliefs blocking my success, and I think I have a fairly good context for finding it. Rationally I believe I am an expression of consciousness, and feel fairly confident in that. I'm just wondering how many people have been successful with this, or does anybody know of a different way of finding your purpose? Or should I just keep pushing through?

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KEEP GOING!!! Its actually trying to do this is what counts...
I'll try to explain this really well tomorrow... with another one of my 10000 character essays...

And you've got a good start... because you are discovering things that actually matter to you and you are trying to be creative about it... and you are finding out what matters most to you so that you won't be tempted to waste your things on frivolous things that just don't matter in the long run so that you can keep yourself on course...
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Yeah I'm pretty stumped on ideas though. I'm at about 6 pages, and each purpose I write is fairly long (1 or 2 lines). I'll give it another hour or two tommorow, but I don't know how much more I can stand it.
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Hello Erock...

Your true purpose should be to have a successful life according to whatever you call success...

So, if I were you... I would do exactly what Robbins did...

1. Write down what you want you life to be like...

2. Describe who you want to be...

3. Identify the things that you will no longer put up with...

4. Define what you expect of yourself...

Once you have done that... you will have no trouble in identifying your life's purpose... it will be in front of you... in black and white...

Good luck to you...

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Yeah thanks Shamou. I think I might go for one of the more intellectual approaches. Although I completely respect Steve's method, and would prefer having a sort of an emmotional epiphany, after 5.5 (now) hours and not even having a somewhat surge of emmotion, I think the intellectual approach might be better for me. I read that one guy had 13 pages. I'm up to almost 7, but I'm sure that guy had at least some emmotional spurts.
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Although I completely respect Steve's method, and would prefer having a sort of an emmotional epiphany,
I also have the utmost respect for Steve but I would also like to give my my take on this...

When I plan something... I don't want to be emotional... I want to be completely rational... I want to be able to evaluate the pros and cons with a cold eye and a clear mind... I want to see exactly what I'm getting into... what the results are likely to be and what it will demand from me...

I want to be like an army General planning a battle... logical, cold and calculating... And I believe that all the great leaders of the world use that approach also...

However, once you have set the plans... now the time for emotions comes in... now is the time for the great passion that can turn the invisible into the visible and the impossible into the possible...

The problem with being purely rational is that you take full responsibility for your decisions... you can't blame it on impulse or spur of the moment decision... the entire responsibility is set on your shoulders... no one and nothing to blame... it can be scary for the faint at heart... but a rational, strong person should be above that...

The very best of luck to you...

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Well said Shamou! I totally agree with this approach (can you believe it!).
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Well said Shamou! I totally agree with this approach (can you believe it!).
I never doubted for a moment the awesome power of my charm... sooner or later you were bound to fall...

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Hey guys I know there are quite a few threads on people using the find your purpose in 20 minutes method unsuccessfully and I am one of those people. I spent about 4 hours total on it today, and I'm a little frusterated that I can't find an answer.

I don't think I have any intense beliefs blocking my success, and I think I have a fairly good context for finding it. Rationally I believe I am an expression of consciousness, and feel fairly confident in that. I'm just wondering how many people have been successful with this, or does anybody know of a different way of finding your purpose? Or should I just keep pushing through?

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I consider that the overall experience of life is the purpose. We are so much more than physical beings, so the purpose of life is to experience it on every level. There is a preoccupation with success, as if you're not successful, then you have no purpose. A leaf has purpose, a building has purpose, if you're here then that's you purpose.

You've already found purpose, adding value to that purpose is the key.

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Well said Shamou! I totally agree with this approach (can you believe it!).
I don't, because it sounds too boring and not risky enough.
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I don't, because it sounds too boring and not risky enough.
Really, or are you joking?
What do risk or boredom have to do with it? You want answers not an amusement park ride.
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OK OK I was just joking. Mostly. I've never been good with rational things, pros and cons and all. Pros can outnumber cons 1000 to 1 but if the right feeling is not there then I probably won't do the thing I consider.
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OK OK I was just joking. Mostly. I've never been good with rational things, pros and cons and all. Pros can outnumber cons 1000 to 1 but if the right feeling is not there then I probably won't do the thing I consider.
Actually Erki, you are right to go with your intuition too! It's very important. All the numbers can add up but if you have a bad feeling you should go with it instead, especially if it's a strong one (if it's not fear, reluctance, procrastination etc.).
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Writing things on papers is nice, but don't forget to live :-) If you just think about pros and cons and try to choose from many things, how will you know if you would like more thing A or B? Well I think that you should try them and then you will really see;-) Experiment, cut off the things you don't like and narrow the field you like most..live and learn..
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A useful approach can be to go help some people less fortunate than yourself... for example, in a volunteering capacity. Purpose can sometimes be in the details!
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Erock, have you looked at a book Steve recommended some time ago, "Is Your Genius At Work"? I was only able to articulate my life purpose after I went through the exercises to find my "genius," which is "Freeing Flow."

Maybe that book might help you, too?
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