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Old 06-23-2007, 09:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Being rich is a state of mind… How do you get it…???

Unless you were born rich… you won’t get to be rich until you get to be the kind of person that you need to be in order to become rich…

Being rich is a mind-set above anything else… the question being ask here is, “How do you acquire that mind-set…???” How do you change the “Joe Blow Next Door” into the “Mister Multi-Millionaire” ???

And please spare me the quantum physic…

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Edit: Might be offensive to some folks.

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Aren't you rich already Shamou!
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1) Desire for one single thing (in this case money)
2) belief in your ability to get it
3) working like hell according to a set plan and willingness to change the plan
4) maintaining 1) and 2) while doing 3) consistently

However, I still like measurable things, so I still see being rich not as a state of mind but rather as a state of bank account.

Using the word rich for all sorts of other things (usually replacing happiness) seems odd to me. It leads to strange terms like being "financially rich", which sounds as pointlessly overdone as "wet water" to me.
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Aren't you rich already Shamou!
Let us just say that everybody that lives in my neighborhood is...

The title of this thread, "Being rich is a state of mind… How do you get it…???" is a hypothetical question... Like my signature says, I'm trying to share and contribute... at least, contribute the information that has helped me to be where I am today... financially secure and very happy...

We should never ask a bald man how to grow hair...

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However, I still like measurable things, so I still see being rich not as a state of mind but rather as a state of bank account.
This may be a pragmatic assessment but not a realistic one... because if you do not have the state of mind... there is no way that you will ever have the bank account...

Wealth only come to those who cannot see themselves without it... and are willing to walk the walk...

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Being rich is a state of mind… How do you get it…???

Unless you were born rich… you won’t get to be rich until you get to be the kind of person that you need to be in order to become rich…

Being rich is a mind-set above anything else… the question being ask here is, “How do you acquire that mind-set…???” How do you change the “Joe Blow Next Door” into the “Mister Multi-Millionaire” ???

And please spare me the quantum physic…

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Sorry Shamou turn away if you can't bear it!

I live on a stretch of beach nicknamed 'Millionaires Mile'. If you go to the Fun and Recreation Forum/'Man that's sooo creative thread', you can see pictures of my 'shack'. If you have the faintest idea about realestate, you'll know what it's worth. I am surrounded by wealthy 'Tuna Barons', and Abalone Barons, in Port Lincoln, a town with more millionaires per capita than any where in Australia. A house 2 blocks down from me was the subject of of a Japanese documentry on amasing houses. The 'Barons' love to tell their hard work stories and I think they are pretty amasing people. Some escaped concentration camps, and arrived in Australia with nothing, and are today 'loaded'.

But I see myself as amasing too, and I am 'loaded' too, but I have a completely different, amasing story. So there is, lets say, 'friendly banter' or disagreement between us, because I haven't got a 'slogged my guts out' story. It's the last thing I want. I choose to let my money do most of the work. And when some of the 'boys' get too carried away, in a derogatory tone, with their 'ability to perform hard work' stories, I just invite em' into my personal, fully equipped gym, for a demo of their ability to work hard...silence is bliss, isn't it!

To the point, I totally believe in the power of creation, of things labelled as miracles, manifesting', attracting, quantum physics, or whatever label you give it. I actually have the only deck hanging out over the beach, much to the 'boy's' disdain! I believe just get the ball rolling. About 30 years ago I chose this direction, but I must be honest, I poured myself in fully. I Meditate and visualise daily. I ponder and learn daily. I soak it all up, whatever way I can.

How's this for starters. Around 25-30 years ago I wanted to live where there was amasing uncrowded surf. Having surfed overseas and around Australia, my favourite surf was in a tiny little town, Elliston South Australia, population 200. 100 miles from the next town. Virtually no jobs. So I only dreamed of living there, but was putting conscious effort, and visualising etc, into moving to other places, particularly Margaret River, Western Australia. An acquaintance from Elliston rang me out of the blue one day, and said the local council was wanting someone to run a tourist park, as summer months were popular with tourists. I applied for the job, zero experience. But I was a top sportsman, and they were more interested in me for their footy and basketball teams, which were taking a drubbing. Next thing I've quit my safe, secure job in drafting/graphic arts, and am managing a tourist park in Elliston. The basketball team was suddenly drubbing everyone else, and as I believe anything is possible, and pour myself into whatever I do, the park was powering. Even though I was a 'surfy bum', some people in town liked me. One day I was standing on the point, emptying a bin in front of the park, and a local farmer who was notorious for hating 'surfies' starts talking to me. He owned the point opposite, Salmon Point, which features in all the West Coast tourist brochures, and I get this powerfull urge to ask him to sell it to me. I have learned to trust and act on that type of urge! To cut a miraculous, amasing, long story short, I ended up with 7.5 acres of mind bending beachfront realestate for $3500 dollars. I still own it today. Guess what its worth! Guess how much it goes up in value yearly...whether I sleep, work, dissappear, whatever! Then I had to learn about the power of equity, of letting the bank's money work for me

And I love it. I love it!!! I can rattle off a ton of those stories, even more 'miraculous' and unbelievable. They just snowball along, better and better. So to anyone out there wondering if manifesting works, if you can create miracles, take heart you can!!! But you need to believe, and believe and realise that thought is all powerful. Thought is effortless effort! Watch your thoughts, control them. And I honestly believe there is one more crucial thing. Anyone who seriously, honestly, wholeheartedly meditates, or who seriously, wholeheartedly, honestly ponders 'the meaning of life', whether they are a saint, or not, comes to the same conclusion. To be at our best, we must truly be in harmony with wanting the best for all. We must step out of individuality into oneness. Then each individual shines miraculously, and it is 'contagious'. Remember, you can say what you like, but you can't fool yourself. All the best!!!
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This may be a pragmatic assessment but not a realistic one... because if you do not have the state of mind... there is no way that you will ever have the bank account...

Wealth only come to those who cannot see themselves without it... and are willing to walk the walk...

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Okay, I understand your point now. Thanks for the clarification.
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@Uplift - What an inspiring story. Good for you for realizing your dreams. You should write a book about it.

@ Shamou - good for you too. It sounds like you have a very comfortable life.

Thanks to both of you for sharing!
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I do believe being rich is indeed a state of mind. If you have an abundance mentality, you are already rich because you're not lacking anything.

We are far from rich, in the traditional sense people might think of it, like we don't have a million dollars. But we have more than enough to live on and basically do what we want to do, when we want to do it.

The secret there is to not want much, and we don't. We're not into expensive stuff, or the latest fashions or fads. My kids kind of think we are rich because we always seem to have the money to do what we want to do. (Yeah they're pretty spoiled!) But, other people making the same amount of money as we do, would be struggling and perhaps even in debt.

We've always made enough to not have to live paycheck to paycheck (other than some very tough years when my husband was in law school full time and I was a stay at home mom...those years SUCKED!). We keep lots in the bank so it's there if/when we ever need it.

So back to the original question, yes, being rich is a state of mind. But it's all related to "wanting" or not wanting as the case may be. That's why I have to shake my head and laugh when I read so many posts here about wanting to make a million dollars by age whatever. Why? Who needs a million dollars?

That's completely the wrong goal. The goal should be to have everything you really (really really really) want. And that's easy -- just adjust what you want!
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An abundance mentality, in my view, includes a number of very important kinds of abundances:

1. Abundance of choice. One of the first real breakthroughs for most people getting into PD is that they have a choice. They have a choice between the life they're currently living and a conscious life. You always have choices, even if the options to choose from aren't very good. No one is forcing you to go to that job, you choose to because you don't like the alternative (assume its starving, for now).
2. Abundance of opportunity. Realizing that we do live in a world of abundance, in practical terms. There is so much money out there and so many opportunities out there, we just have to step up and access them. Maybe we'll need to go back to school, maybe take some public speaking courses, maybe get new certifications, maybe just be bold and start to suggest improvements in our current work place to access them. And here, again, you have choices in those opportunities.
3. Abundance of your ability to access that opportunity. This is perhaps the most imporant part of the mentality. This is where you realize that you'll be ok no matter what. And that you deserve nice things, experiences and relationships, and are worthy of them.

One of the key things, for me, in building an abundance mentality is going from avoidance-from thinking to going-towards thinking. Instead of thinking, I don't want debt, thinking I want x amount of money in the bank account, or i want financial abundance. Instead of thinking, i don't want to fail this assignment, to thinking, I want to get a really good grade. This glass half-full view to life is really helpful in having an abundance mentality. And being grateful and appreciative of waht we all have, are and have to ability to achieve.
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Personally I am a very frugal person… money and toys don’t mean much to me… however, I have this very strong belief that not having money is beyond me… I would feel that I was a failure if I was not in the upper bracket in that department… I know that this is paradoxical but that’s how it is…

And I feel very at ease in that situation because not being all that attached to money, I have little fear of losing what I have and I took care of the frugal part of my personality by choosing a wife that is the exact opposite… she loves the beautiful physical things in life… so, she buys and I pay… works just fine…

That being said, I believe that getting to be the type of person that you have to be to earn money big time is by reading biographies of successful people and emulating those people… and the secret of their success can be summarized in one sentence…. “If you do the things that losers don’t… tomorrow you'll have the things that losers won’t”

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Even though I was a 'surfy bum', some people in town liked me.
It's always cool to find a fellow "surf bum".

I'm 6'4, big boned (full blame goes to my German parents for that ) and so am reduced to long boarding when we lived in Waikiki on the "tourist" waves, and when in Encinitas Ca. at Swami's point ........But I fukin Love long boarding !
Been out of it for a couple of years, (got sidetracked by life's "drama") but time for me to get back to the awesome wonders of the ocean.



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Being rich is a state of mind… How do you get it…???
Shamou, great thread you started !

Here's my story.
I've got money, (from days doing commercials in L.A.) but am working on gettin more.
(Naturally)


Working on an ambitious and challenging project for me personally. 43 million.
But this "project" has nothing to do with action in the "outside" world. I decided to do it this way as a personal challenge to me, a way to push my limits.

Here's the outline.
My entire life, (started when I was 7 years old), I've always questioned Why we are here, etc, etc, etc.
In L.A. I was always able to "pull" commercial jobs to me paying big money, thru using intense introspection of Who I am, and what this universe really is.

To make a long story short, got married, which in effect got me sidetracked from my previous times of intense alone introspections.

But now I'm back on that track. Hence this "project" I've decided to do.
How am I doing this?
By finding out Who and What I am.........which ultimately is a "void".

Now I purposefully used that word to stir a reaction, I guess.
Normally when using that word we immediately go to the negative aspect of that word. But what about going to the "positive" aspect of that word?

Meaning, a "void", in the sense of all possibilities simply waiting to be "actuated" by choice. (thought)

I see fully, because I am this "void", that I constantly and continually am 'defining' myself. I 'define' myself any way I want to.

If anybody wants to know the method to find out Who you are, let me know and I'll post it here. There is no hours and hours of "meditation". It takes seconds.

So this is my 'project'.
(Initially I wasn't going to make this project "public", because of ridicule and judgement, but the progress I've made inside myself has no need of worrying about that.)

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My gawd infinitethoughts... there must be something wrong... you're starting to make sense...

Wonders will never cease... keep up the good work...

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My gawd infinitethoughts... there must be something wrong... you're starting to make sense...

Wonders will never cease... keep up the good work...

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Lol...................!

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Why don't you start by asking the universe to make you feel like a millionaire? It might help.
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Why don't you start by asking the universe to make you feel like a millionaire? It might help.
All you have to do to "feel" like a millionaire is to get drunk... people don't want to "feel" like millionaires... they want to "be" millionaire... big difference...

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Good one infinitethoughts! Have some fun in the ocean, and great insights. For me, like Jill, and others alude to, being rich is really about being happy. And like Shamou says, happiness is a state of mind. Our choices and beliefs either express happiness, or they don't. I think this thread highlights the amasing diversity in people, bound by the common like of happiness and fullfillment. I know this could be taken as dribble, but the wisest thing I've heard is, 'Change your mind, change your life. Watch your thoughts!' You'd think that would be easy. So, I started trying...##**!!!!! Thats when I realised, the games people play!!! Or 'Oh what a tangled web we weave'!!!
We all have choice, and like 'infinitethoughts' points out, that so called 'void' is unlimited, so for me, its about learning to choose and think wisely.

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If anybody wants to know the method to find out Who you are, let me know and I'll post it here. There is no hours and hours of "meditation". It takes seconds.
I am interested in the meditation.
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We all have choice, and like 'infinitethoughts' points out, that so called 'void' is unlimited, so for me, its about learning to choose and think wisely.
It's all about choice. Sometimes we consider that we think things into being, but thoughts are the validating output of choice. Choice creates the million dollars and depending on your requirement for growth and sense of time, how fast that milllion dollars arrives is dependent on how much you want to grow and how much time you consider it will take.

Much delay in getting what you want is about denial and usually denial you don't deserve it. That's why some people create money very easily, they don't deny that they are creating everything in their lives.

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Choice creates the million dollars and depending on your requirement for growth and sense of time, how fast that milllion dollars arrives is dependent on how much you want to grow and how much time you consider it will take.
How long did it take you to get that million dollars...???

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I do believe being rich is indeed a state of mind. If you have an abundance mentality, you are already rich because you're not lacking anything.
As Steve says about creative observation. As you observe you create, so observing lack, creates lack.

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ocean.If anybody wants to know the method to find out Who you are, let me know and I'll post it here. There is no hours and hours of "meditation". It takes seconds.

So this is my 'project'.
(Initially I wasn't going to make this project "public", because of ridicule and judgement, but the progress I've made inside myself has no need of worrying about that.)
IFT, please share your project and your methods (if you wish) here or maybe in the IM or Spiritual topics, we're all in this together, helping one, helps all

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It's all about choice. Sometimes we consider that we think things into being, but thoughts are the validating output of choice. Choice creates the million dollars and depending on your requirement for growth and sense of time, how fast that milllion dollars arrives is dependent on how much you want to grow and how much time you consider it will take.

Much delay in getting what you want is about denial and usually denial you don't deserve it. That's why some people create money very easily, they don't deny that they are creating everything in their lives.

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I actually agree with you, for me, it's about controlling the mind, and aiming the choice, and the thoughts that express and experience it. Sounds easy. And this is where I agree with Shamou. I see choosing and thinking as action, effort. Part of the game to master. No control over choice and thinking, no effort, equals no say in my particular expression of fun and happiness, and doesn't interest me. Fun and happiness seem effortless, because I love making the effort. So for me, It's learning about choosing and aiming at what makes me happy. You might know how to be the fittest person, richest person, happiest person in the world. But if your choices and thoughts are aimed in the wrong direction, you'll have a good chance of hitting that target. So much fun to aim at, if you want to.
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Here's an absolute classic! A guy that was my best mate around 30 years ago, was fairly recently the only winner of the $20,000,000.00 Powerball prize. I knew him really well, and back then, we were famous for being 'hopeless' with money. We blew every cent, and borrowed our way from pay to pay. The only relevance of that is, that I know that he had no, not the slightest interest or thoughts about lotteries. None. So I hadn't seen him in 20 odd years, and he tells me the story. He had built up a little graphic arts business, and had just sold it. On the way home, he was feeling pretty good, but wondering about the future. He stopped into a newsagent, to buy a paper, drink and a bag of chips, when he sees a sign saying 20.000,000 Powerball jackpot. He just off handedly tells the lady to 'give us one of those' as well, and she says its drawn that same night. The only ticket he's ever bought in his life. No second thought about it, just ' give us one of those'. Later that night his family is watching tv, and he sees the lottery draw is on a little bit later, but his wife wants to change the channel. He sings out to his daughter if she could write down the numbers from the tv in her room. completely forgets about it. Later the daughter comes in and tosses the numbers on his lap. He checks off the numbers casually while concentrating on the tv, as the show is reaching the climax. Next thing he's got the winning numbers. He's trying to tell his wife and daughter, but they are telling him to 'shut up', as the tv show is about to end! Hilarious.

What I get out of it, particularly as I know the guy really well, is a rare, completely honest, genuine case of utter, total lack of doubt, worry, disbelief. Unconsciously and consciously from him. Just totally uninhibited, pure, 'give us one of those'. And thats it...no other thought concerning it, hindering it whatsoever. It's really interesting to me anyway. So are the reactions of some of the people we know! One other thing I think is important, from my point of view, is that I was totally, genuinely stoked out of my head for him!
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All you have to do to "feel" like a millionaire is to get drunk... people don't want to "feel" like millionaires... they want to "be" millionaire... big difference...

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according to LOA , feeling the feelings of having the things you desire or feeling the feelings of being what you want speeds up the proccess.
It is working for me, I would not recommend it otherwise.
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you learn it. First , you become conscious about your situation and your being conscious about what you could be, then you start having a desire to become wat you BELIEVE you could be, then you seewhat people who do what you would do are doing, and you reproduce those actions.

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Old 06-25-2007, 07:34 PM   #28 (permalink)
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absvan & Max.

Well here's what I do, I got the general idea how to See what you really are from here.
  • Tell yourself to just Sit and Listen and Watch whatever you are looking at, and not think.
  • Just sit and Listen and Watch.
  • As your doing this...........you'll start to notice something, or become aware of this "emptiness" where your thoughts used to be.
  • You notice you are this "space".......this "emptiness".
  • As days go by, you keep Sitting, Listening and Watching and looking at this "space"/"void", which is you.
  • This vast (no bounds) emptiness is what you are 24/7, which fills itself anytime it wants to with realities. (thought)

Personally I don't force it by looking for it in the afternoon. I just let it go until the next morning.
After a couple of weeks (more or less depending on individual) it starts becoming second nature, because that is the nature of repetition, it becomes a habit.

You really start to see what I call "empty the trash can, it's full" ......you can't fill up an empty container if it's full.
Of course then it's the realization that you are the "void" (in the positive sense) and your Identity is anything, or anything you decide.

More then likely, you guys may be doing the same thing, but just differently.
Let me know if you guys have any questions or comments.
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Go to a third world country in Africa somewhere where the people are truly destitute, and probably unless if you are living there already (unlikely given that you have access to a pc) you'll probably feel rich.
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:42 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Here's an absolute classic! A guy that was my best mate around 30 years ago, was fairly recently the only winner of the $20,000,000.00 Powerball prize. I knew him really well, and back then, we were famous for being 'hopeless' with money. We blew every cent, and borrowed our way from pay to pay. The only relevance of that is, that I know that he had no, not the slightest interest or thoughts about lotteries. None. So I hadn't seen him in 20 odd years, and he tells me the story. He had built up a little graphic arts business, and had just sold it. On the way home, he was feeling pretty good, but wondering about the future. He stopped into a newsagent, to buy a paper, drink and a bag of chips, when he sees a sign saying 20.000,000 Powerball jackpot. He just off handedly tells the lady to 'give us one of those' as well, and she says its drawn that same night. The only ticket he's ever bought in his life. No second thought about it, just ' give us one of those'. Later that night his family is watching tv, and he sees the lottery draw is on a little bit later, but his wife wants to change the channel. He sings out to his daughter if she could write down the numbers from the tv in her room. completely forgets about it. Later the daughter comes in and tosses the numbers on his lap. He checks off the numbers casually while concentrating on the tv, as the show is reaching the climax. Next thing he's got the winning numbers. He's trying to tell his wife and daughter, but they are telling him to 'shut up', as the tv show is about to end! Hilarious.
That seems to be when the real magic happens. When you just like "what the heck, let's see what happens". The point of neutrality between being attached to the desired outcome and resisting the undesired outcome. It's like what Steve suggested, you just do the particular action to see what happens and don't mind if you get what you were asking for.

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