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Old 06-17-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Darkworker Resources

I recall Steve mentioning a book for darkworkers, a kind of darkworker bible called "48 Rules of Power". What about "Art of Seduction"? (same author, Greene)

Any other recommended reading?

C'mon darkworkers, STEP UP.

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Asmoday has an interesting site regarding darkworkers. It's more of a blog than anything else, though.

I'll do some research and come up with a few titles for you.
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Ironically, as I searched for good books relevant to darkworkers, I thought of an interesting question:

Does a true darkworker really need a manual?

After all, aren't we more focused on getting the answers ourselves instead of relying on others?
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Default here's how i'm seeing it...

i'm looking for exercises, meditations, which are self-centered, with the sole purpose of increasing MY individual power. i visualize a whirlpool or black hole. everything toward my center - money, power, it all comes to me. a deep, concentrated, focused flow spiraling inward. think of a whirlpool, too.

i'm doing the 30-day trial of the emotional mastery, looking for other exercises as well.
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Robert Greene has also a blog (just google Robert Greene).
Machivellis "The Prince" and Sun Zus "Art of War" are must reads for people who want to act strategicly, which is at the core of darkworkers.
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I recall Steve mentioning a book for darkworkers, a kind of darkworker bible called "48 Rules of Power". What about "Art of Seduction"? (same author, Greene)
I had a browse through the "48 Laws" today and it's very interesting stuff.

But have you considered that the "48 Laws of Power" are in fact lightworker tools as well. The goal of a lightworker is to serve the greater good and that involves gaining power first. And gaining power involves strategic planning, manipulation of others- even a willingness to harm others in order to achieve the greater good.
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plato, i expect to see more similiarites as i get into this deeper. the robert greene blog site is a winner, thanks for the heads up.
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Ironically, as I searched for good books relevant to darkworkers, I thought of an interesting question:

Does a true darkworker really need a manual?

After all, aren't we more focused on getting the answers ourselves instead of relying on others?
That's a very Dark Warrior question to ask , and it is a good question that I asked myself along the way.

The flat-out answer is no -- given that you asked "need" and not "should".

You don't need one. The reality is that you can progress all the way through the path by personal trial and error. But, I wouldn't advise it.

But, would you do anything else this way, even something that could be potetially dangerous? When you polarize into the left-hand path, you are, in effect, sitting down at the control station of a nuclear power plant. I think we would all say that any reasonable person would read the manual.

There is, of course, the danger of melt-down. Who wants that?

And, there is the idea that in the path, your manual is your teachers. The first benefit they provide is simply accelerating your progress. Having walked ahead of you, they can guide you. Even more important, those without teachers generally get stuck at the warrior level, and almost never get past magus. Why? Not accepting a teacher is usually motivated by pride. Hence, the resounding security present in a Prince cannot develop.

Also, there is the benfit of their experience, and the collective experience of the traditions they impart. Its like having someone help you build a house. I'd rather have an experienced carpenter's help than some noob right out of the vo-tech. Why? The experienced teacher has built a lot of Darkworkers, and can help you do it right -- with a foundation and structure that is stronger, more powerful, more resiliant, and made to last.

Finally, there is the paradox problem. Every path contains a paradox, because to truly reflect reality, it must encapsulate and also superscede the mind. In that superseding, it has some logical inconsistency. For lightworkers, this is to love all beings, and you are a being, but you must sacrifice yourself for the greater good. For us, it is to honor and cherish the self, but to also restrain desire. Often, the paradox is not intuitively grasped, so the teacher is insturmental. Again, this is the reason for the warrior-wall.

But, I say all that to say this: We are Darkworkers, and we can do whatever the hell we feel like. So, if you feel the only way to honor yourself is to go lone-wolf, and you reject the benefits in lieu of a purity, go nuts.

All I can say is, good luck.
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i'm looking for exercises, meditations, which are self-centered, with the sole purpose of increasing MY individual power. i visualize a whirlpool or black hole. everything toward my center - money, power, it all comes to me. a deep, concentrated, focused flow spiraling inward. think of a whirlpool, too.

i'm doing the 30-day trial of the emotional mastery, looking for other exercises as well.
Hey Rod -- just wanted to give you a word of caution here. I don't know where you stand with psychic-mystical stuff, but:

That visualization is very similar to a routine that was taught to me as the Victory Feast. It is very potent, and nifty, but like all things, comes with a price tag.

The catch is, its usually not undertaken until some time around the magus level.

The reason is because one of the gifts that begins to develop and then attuned at that level, is a sense of karmic flow. Our tuning into the self gives us a gauge on that.

It is important to have that, because that visualization generates a massive inflow, that pulls from others. With the gauge, you can sense how much and selectively give to balance it out.

Otherwise, you can create a sort of deficit with the world's karmic bank, that is so huge you can run into a vicious, downward spiral.

The problem is, you usually don't see it at first, and before you know it, it is too late to reverse it with the time-lag -- you're going to have to pay the piper, and anything you send out will reap back to you too late to cancel out the inflow effects.

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The whirlpool visual is a metaphor for the energy flow (toward me) and concentration of power. Or could it be highly polarized people do have an actual star (in the case of lightworkers) or a real black hole out there created as a result of the polarization?

I am not using the Victory Feast visualization as a meditation yet. Although i don't fully understand your caution, I realize I'm not at the point to use it as a tool. You could say I've stumbled upon a lear jet sitting out in the desert, ready to go, all fueled up, keys in the ignition however I'm not quite ready to drive it yet. I do see it sitting there and do see it's potential.

I am using the emotional mastery meditation, toaday is day two. Scin's mantras produce a very strong surge of emotion, like how I'd feel if I were a field officer and I'd just won a major battle so I'm using those.

I'm not looking for a manual. I am on the lookout for clues and directions. I see you standing next to my jet and ask: "Where now?" You hold up your arm and point: "Look that way." and I begin walking in that direction.
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You hit it right on the head.

You'll do exceedingly well if you keep that focus.
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Very interesting point you made, Asmoday. One thing that intrigues me, though, is your usage of titles like warrior, magus, and prince. Are these titles you've given to phases in a darkworker's evolution?
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The interesting thing is that books like "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and "The 48 Laws of Power" teach most of the same stuff.

The first will say "be genuine" and the latter will say "seem genuine". To the outside world, the effects may be appear to be the same. But those effects will feel different inside based on whatever personal choice you made, to actually be genuine, or to seem genuine enough to get what you want.

I don't consider myself a darkworker but I like learning from books like "The 48 Laws of Power" because it just seems more REAL. Just pure facts, knowledge, and human phycology. Deep down, it's up to me to decide how I use the information, so I'd rather just take the information in it's rawest form, even if it does seem harsh. I'm not afraid of the truth.

The books will teach me, but they will not change my core. I think a lot of authors waste time by trying to tell me how to use the knowledge they are giving me. Save your breath.

I look forward to checking out the books that everyone recommends.
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Very interesting point you made, Asmoday. One thing that intrigues me, though, is your usage of titles like warrior, magus, and prince. Are these titles you've given to phases in a darkworker's evolution?
The titles are well-used in older texts, especially on demonology. What I have done, is stripped them of the mumbo-jumbo and put them into a more modern, empirical form.

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