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06-14-2007, 03:47 AM
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 Anarchy When you think of anarchy, what exactly do you think of? For me, its a free society without government.      |
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06-14-2007, 02:07 PM
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| Perhaps we should give the world's anarchists their own island somewhere and see what happens. Maybe it'll remind us all of why we need our government. 
__________________ A truly open mind will seriously consider all points of view, even those with which it strongly disagrees for there may be a grain of truth in even the most ridiculous of opinions. |
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06-14-2007, 02:44 PM
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06-14-2007, 03:33 PM
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06-14-2007, 03:54 PM
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| The problem with Anarchists is they need something to hate. If Anarchists ruled, it would be paradoxical!
__________________ I dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none. - MACBETH |
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06-14-2007, 04:13 PM
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| For me, Anarchism is just the lack of top-down orders from the government. It has it's good qualities and it has its bad qualities. anarchism in my mind fosters community and independence of local communities much better than a highly industrialized government. It allows for the pursuit of the self better than a highly industrialized government because a highly industrialized government changes the person to conform to it and not the other way around. Anarchism would be considered more natural than government and closer to the conditions of nature and Darwinism. That said, it fails in certain areas. Anarchism by definition doesn't do anything on a big scale real well. Anarchism won't make interstates or battleships. There are some things that need to be industrialized to a certain extent for efficiency reasons. Quote:
As a society we need to move closer to anarchism. Our government is way too big and is ineffective due to its industrialization. We would be better off shifting to a more natural and organic method of organization because it would allow for more freedom and for people to fulfill themselves better. |
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06-14-2007, 04:13 PM
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| an·ar·chy [ ánnərkee ] noun Definition: 1. chaotic situation: a situation in which there is a total lack of organization or control 2. lack of government: the absence of any formal system of government in a society Hate what? its is simply a call for lack of formal authority, no need to hate anything. |
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06-14-2007, 04:16 PM
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Anarchists wouldn't rule! Anarchists are simply against government: a monopoly on force over any given area. You would be free to choose however you want to live, just like choosing a car or a computer. Not everyone has a Dell. Not everyone has a Camry. People have a general misunderstanding of what anarchy really is. Newspaper headlines such as "Descent into anarchy" and such don't help too much. This is what anarchy is. No government. Here's an example of a possible anarchist society, though much is not known about it. Last edited by ticktockclok : 06-14-2007 at 04:19 PM. |
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06-14-2007, 05:41 PM
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06-14-2007, 07:13 PM
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| Oh yes, bring on this, "anarchy". I will do quite nicely  |
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06-15-2007, 01:42 AM
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06-15-2007, 04:10 AM
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| Indigenous Australians had no formal government or organisations in the way that western culture understands. In their case, it is an extremely successful way to live. Theirs is the oldest continual culture by miles. It has existed for at least 40,000 years, and plenty of evidence points to 100,000 years. They ask the same question as Shamou, for the same reason. How old is present western culture? But then there is always the other side of the argument, the 'can't teach an old dog new tricks' one. There must be a way to blend successfull elements of each style of living together, to create a way of life that fosters all on this planet. As I see it, the only stumbling block is actually, honestly choosing it, and believing in it. |
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06-15-2007, 04:28 AM
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It's a legitimate question to wonder if more people die from wars and prejudices based on nationalism and imperialism or that would die from people being people. The necessity of a strong government to keep people from unleashing their evil selves is Bush league thinking. Why dwell in the fear. |
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06-15-2007, 04:32 AM
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06-15-2007, 04:54 AM
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| Anarchy, as said above, does not scale very well. It is a group mind in the 'tribal' state that can exist with moderate numbers for the life of that 'state' (someone mentioned Australians). To 'go back' would be, to essentially, devolve; when there are numerous possibilities that promote an increased population and an increased awareness of individuality amongst the members of a population (providing the population as a whole with its own awareness). Society at the moment is much like an Ant colony - but, what if every person were to be at their greatest potential? The amazing things that might be because of such an aspiration are hard, even for me, to imagine. While I highly support small, cohesive, and elite groups (because focus and communication is intensive); the whole of humanity is also my father - just as the earth is my mother, of whom I also have the utmost respect for. Of whom deserve Anarchy any less than you would deserve to be kidnapped and tortured for freedom of opinion. Our very existence would seem to rest upon the concepts of War, Anarchy, and Terror. Without them, we would have no contrasting point of view to say, "My side is green.".
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06-15-2007, 04:56 AM
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| F...lazy, needs more work! Whilst you demonstrate regularly that a lot of your 'experience' and 'wisdom' is actually confined to 'winkipedia' shamou , I don't rely on it at all. I have a Degree in Indigenous Australian Studies, and am on the Dean's Honour Roll, for my efforts. Citing 'winkipedia' as your argument would result in an F... for fail, in any respected University. So you get an F. Don't quit your dayjob, stick to being a chiro. But then if you wish to suggest that western education is lacking... Last edited by Uplift : 06-15-2007 at 04:57 AM. Reason: spelling |
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06-15-2007, 05:26 AM
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You are dwelling on fear. You keep making assumptions about anarchy without exploring as to what it really is. Anarchy is not utopia. Anarchists are not striving for a perfect word. However, they strive for a better world, a free world. Rape and murder will always exist. Does this mean you shouldn't strive to stop them? |
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06-15-2007, 05:32 AM
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| Education teaches you how to march, it stifles original thought with the idea that there is an authority greater than your own intelligence. Stop being the University's bitch.
__________________ "Speak your mind, even if your voice trembles." |
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06-15-2007, 05:35 AM
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| You can be just as free now, as you could with Anarchy - no one is stopping you. The idea that you need something to be free, IS, fear based thinking.
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06-15-2007, 05:43 AM
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