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Old 06-01-2007, 04:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I see so many people defining themselves by their job, and it often makes me cringe a little. It seems like some people lower themselves to having their major purpose being to satisfy their boss, which is unfortunate. Back to the point.. others define themselves by their kids or maybe values. What do you think people should be defined by, if at all, and what is your opinion on defining oneself?
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There is a thread on this subject right here...

It's called, "Identity... defining it and redefining it..."

It might give you some input on the subject....

Good thread though...

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ow. I didn't look down far enough. Just popped into my mind today and wanted some dicussion on it, thanks for the linky!
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What do you think people should be defined by, if at all, and what is your opinion on defining oneself?
I am infinite, as is everyone else.

Def. of infinite.
Subject to no limitations and external determination.
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I am infinite, as is everyone else.

Def. of infinite.
Subject to no limitations and external determination.
Have you ever tried to take that to the bank and cash it in...???

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Have you ever tried to take that to the bank and cash it in...???

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Yes I have. They didn't have checks big enough to handle all the zeros.
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Yes I have. They didn't have checks big enough to handle all the zeros.
machine... you're good... that made me laugh... however you should have posted that in Fun and Humor Time...

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Great point of view you got!
I think that we are not what we do, what we wear or what we have. It’s just a way of saying, when someone tells you :”I am a doctor.”, or “I am cute”, “short”, “tall”, “smart”. The language forces you to express yourself like that. My guess is that this is the main reason for which we don’t understand who we really are; it’s because we identify ourselves with our jobs, or with our role in family. I’m not saying that it is not important, because I think it is, a lot, it’s just…a way of speaking. To me, definition is…”explaining the way I am”, mostly my personality and the way I feel about others. Somebody you don’t know much about is still someone, even if you don’t know their age, profession or role in the family.
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Have you ever tried to take that to the bank and cash it in...???

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I've never met someone who's name is Debit Card.
Nice to meet you.
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I've never met someone who's name is Debit Card.
Nice to meet you.
Money is nice to have... you should try it... you'd love it...

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Money is nice to have... you should try it... you'd love it...

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Lol........

and who sez I don't have lots of money?
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Have you ever tried to take that to the bank and cash it in...???
You mean like Robbins cashs it in?

I have this overwelming feeling that I should start subscribing to Robbins (although his teeth scare me ) why is that, must be subliminal

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You mean like Robbins cashs it in?

I have this overwelming feeling that I should start subscribing to Robbins (although his teeth scare me ) why is that, must be subliminal

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When you meet the guy... (and some day you will ) you will find out that he is a muscle bound 6'6" giant... and his teeth will be the least of your worries...

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Defining yourself by one thing, like your job, your clothes, your school, etc, is hazardous for mental health. It can precipitate procrastination, perfectionism and if something happens in that one area of life, it feels like your whole life has been affected. Unidimentional indentities like that are not as useful as a varied, multi-dimentional one.
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Unidimentional indentities like that are not as useful as a varied, multi-dimentional one.
I agree with you... I see myself as unlimited potential... (I do have limits... but I am the one who imposes those limits...)

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When you meet the guy... (and some day you will ) you will find out that he is a muscle bound 6'6" giant... and his teeth will be the least of your worries...
I like it when he trys to be cool and calls himself a MoFoHo, hilarious trying to endear himself to young people.

Honestly there is nothing he has, that can't be found on this awesome free forum.

$5000 for your big giant pontificating? Pleaseeee!! I'd rather read IFT, Dharma, Absvan and my favorite Shindra, oh of course Max Power ALL Free!!
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I'd rather read IFT, Dharma, Absvan and my favorite Shindra, oh of course Max Power ALL Free!!
Where did that get you...???

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I am who I am. I am Helen.
Other peoples opinions of me are none of my business :-)
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I have only read half of the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, but the idea of defining yourself on principals and writing out a written "consitution" of who you are, what you believe, and the principals in which all of your actions will be taken under seems like an incredible idea. I am going to spend a couple weeks on this when school gets out, and I think it will really clarify things.

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but the idea of defining yourself on principals and writing out a written "consitution" of who you are, what you believe, and the principals in which all of your actions will be taken under seems like an incredible idea. I am going to spend a couple weeks on this when school gets out, and I think it will really clarify things.
Is it possible that you are talking about a "Mission Statement" and not a constitution...???

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Where did that get you...???
It helped me understand SR, where did Robbins get you apart from a reharsh of IM, LoA and a chance to make money off him
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Is it possible that you are talking about a "Mission Statement" and not a constitution...???
Yeah I think he calls it a mission statement, but he uses the US consitution as an example. The mission statement part is like your goals and plans, and the constitution part is the principles you plan to live under. I really like the idea of defining your principles and beliefs, right down to the core, so that you really "know yourself," and know what you're all about. I plan to even including my spiritual beliefs. Obviously this can change over time, but just having it written out will help define it. I think when one maps everything out like this, it adds a new dimension to day to day living. Exactly like Covey is saying.
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In a way I agree with infinitethoughts. I think an accurate definition of anyone is impossible because we are always more than other people see, and always more than we ourselves understand. In that sense we are infinite because our expressible understanding is finite; there will always be more to me than I or anyone else can define.

So what affect does that have on my life? Well, it means that I'm constantly learning about myself, and about others, I that's something that I love. It also means that it's pointless defining myself by anything that may change, which is everything. Who I am now is not who I was last year, or will be in a year to come.

Others have taken this understanding one step further, to express a belief in something else that is present, unchanging, at the centre of all that change. But that's not my belief. It's enough for me to know that I'm the sum of all my parts, and those parts are constantly changing but I still remain whole.
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What do you think people should be defined by, if at all, and what is your opinion on defining oneself?
From my crazy SR POV I define everything as consiousness, my body, your body, minds, trees, past, future, everything in awareness, all creations. It can be a joyous way to sense, as everything is vital, an important creation. Everything has a reason, a point for existing, nothing is ever useless or pointless. Figuring it all out is he challening part

When you define yourself as created and creator (no, not the egocentric god notion ) every single little thing is so amazing, you can actually see your place in it all and everything in it's correct place.
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In that sense we are infinite because our expressible understanding is finite; there will always be more to me than I or anyone else can define...............It's enough for me to know that I'm the sum of all my parts, and those parts are constantly changing but I still remain whole.
Yeah it's a trippy and awesome experience.

You find yourself just expanding more and more and more and more...............with no end.



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Also I'd like to add, you find yourself expanding more and more......meeting other parts of yourself -- your physical selves, "higher selves", alternate selves, other reincarnated selves, parallel selves, etc, etc, etc, BUT all of these selves are distinct and exist FOREVER......AND at the same time are one.
A true dichotomy, if there ever was one.

You ever wonder who you're having conversations with in your head ?
And then you realize you've been having these conversations your whole life.




Truly.
The more I know, the less I know.......kinda thing.

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Anthony Robbins has, in a way, trapped himself by becoming a public figure.
Or to be more correct, the public view has trapped him.

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The mission statement part is like your goals and plans, and the constitution part is the principles you plan to live under.
I commend you highly for this undertaking... it is a "must do" for anyone who is serious about succeeding his/her life and in life...

No respectable corporation would operate without a mission statement and a defined corporate culture... so, why should we...???

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It helped me understand SR, where did Robbins get you apart from a reharsh of IM, LoA and a chance to make money off him
Robbins has allowed me to find a purpose in life, along with wealth and happiness...

And as far as SR is concerned... I only have to get loaded to know what it's all about...

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Please don't define me
By my working status quo
Please don't slap a label upon me
Because your thoughts say it's so
I am not a bumper sticker
to be taken all out of context
Or will I be reduced to an inatimat
object...
I am human
my heart beats human in this place
and I do not believe the poor
are a hinderance to the human race
please don't put me in a category
so that carnal minds
can make some sense
I know who and what defines me
and it is not blinded by pretense...


I don't think we as human beings do each other any justice when we allow labels and statistics to define or make us who we are... this is not what esteems us or will it ever be...... we miss out on so much and stiffle our growth of the human experience , we can not be put into cute little boxes with a one time stamp and places on shelf A or B or C
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Old Soul...

I honestly believe that everyone of us has a perception as to who he or she is... and that perception can be defined without putting restrictions on our potential...

Now, if we do define ourselves it gives us clarity as to what our strong points are and what is needed to be worked on...

I believe that introspection is essential to growth... and the results of that introspection has to be defined in specific words if it is to be of any use...

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Old Soul...

I honestly believe that everyone of us has a perception as to who he or she is... and that perception can be defined without putting restrictions on our potential...

Now, if we do define ourselves it gives us clarity as to what our strong points are and what is needed to be worked on...

I believe that introspection is essential to growth... and the results of that introspection has to be defined in specific words if it is to be of any use...

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Shamou,

I think what Soul means is defining ones identity based on materials. For some people the perception of who he or she is depends on what objects they possess. So if a person is wealthy in terms of material wealth, he/she will say "I am wealthy". What will happen if tomorrow they loose the wealth?? They loose their identity.

Identity should be defined by ones inbuilt behavior/personality because if its truly ours then we wont loose them.

P.S. I dont mean everybody focuses on material wealth but I do know a lot who identify success, failure and even power depending on their bank balance.
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