Dehumanisation

[Nihil]

I want to dehumanise my self via removing ablitiy to feel emotions,to from relationships or to become a sociopath eic.

My reasons for doing this are my own but I want to know if the above is possible,how I can do it and any other suggestions.

Well,ciao.

[JSB]

Assuming they knew how, why would anyone in their right mind give you the tools to become a sociopath?

Do deer hand out rifles to hunters?

Originally Posted by Nihil

I want to dehumanise my self via removing ablitiy to feel emotions,to from relationships or to become a sociopath eic.

My reasons for doing this are my own but I want to know if the above is possible,how I can do it and any other suggestions.

Well,ciao.

[dulaney0330]

What has happened to you in your childhood that motivates you to dehumanize?

[Nihil]

I told you my reasons are my own.
Sociopath was just an example.I'm looking for the cutting off human need for realationships bit and removing certain emotions.

Please assist if able.

[Nihil]

@JSB Since when did sociopaths hunt people? At worst all they do is manipulate others due to lacking certain human qualities.

[dulaney0330]

Originally Posted by Nihil

I told you my reasons are my own.
Sociopath was just an example.I'm looking for the cutting off human need for realationships bit and removing certain emotions.

Please assist if able.

Well, perhaps, reflect on what drives this motivation. What interests you about cutting off human need? How does it benefit you? Again, this is just something to ask yourself and you do not have to post here.

[Nihil]

I have already done this.The benefit would be extreme.

[SuperFitGeek]

Originally Posted by Nihil

I want to dehumanise my self via removing ablitiy to feel emotions,to from relationships or to become a sociopath eic.

My reasons for doing this are my own but I want to know if the above is possible,how I can do it and any other suggestions.

Well,ciao.

I believe these "skills" are mostly genetic. Either you are born with them or you're not.

I don't know your reasons, and I don't want to be judgmental, but I assume you're going through some form of mental pain. Why not go see a psychiatrist? It could change your life, even though it's possibly hard for you to believe right now.

[Nihil]

Unfortunately in my case that would prove...redundant.Anything on imprinting would be benefical as well.

[180]

Sounds exactly what I'm trying to do now.

I've taken up mindfullness meditation.

But it ain't easy. I've been doing intently for almost a month now and no progress... in fact I'm probably more emotional and less stoic.... OR maybe I'm just noticing myself being more emotional?

Not really sure, either way if it interests you, mindfullness meditation is making huge hype lately. You won't be sociopathic or apathetic, just more stoic according to researchers.

[SuperFitGeek]

Originally Posted by 180

Sounds exactly what I'm trying to do now.
Not really sure, either way if it interests you, mindfullness meditation is making huge hype lately. You won't be sociopathic or apathetic, just more stoic according to researchers.

That sounds interesting. Do you have any links to articles or more info about it?

[SuperFitGeek]

Originally Posted by Nihil

Unfortunately in my case that would prove...redundant.Anything on imprinting would be benefical as well.

Maybe try a different one? Like with all professionals, some are way more effective than others...

[180]

This is a heavy link

Mindfulness in Plain English - 7

Here is just a recent article about it,

Mindfulness meditation training changes brain structure in eight weeks

[Brutha]

Mindfulness meditation isn't about cutting off human needs. It's about processing them.

My reasons for doing this are my own but I want to know if the above is possible, how I can do it and any other suggestions.

It's possible to disassociate emotions. It's however a bad idea.
There no reason why I should explain you about how you go about it.

You won't be sociopathic or apathetic, just more stoic according to researchers.

Who claims this? How do they define the word stoic?

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Nihil

I want to dehumanise my self via removing ablitiy to feel emotions,to from relationships or to become a sociopath eic.

My reasons for doing this are my own but I want to know if the above is possible,how I can do it and any other suggestions.

Well,ciao.

As far as I know there is no way to achieve this (believe me, I've tried), bar entering the russian military where they will rape and beat you until you are completely broken down and then build you up as a killing machine.

Becoming an alcoholic or substance abuser is a way to numb yourself of all emotions...but that doesn't offer much of a life in exchange.

[180]

Originally Posted by elucidate

As far as I know there is no way to achieve this (believe me, I've tried), bar entering the russian military where they will rape and beat you until you are completely broken down and then build you up as a killing machine.

Spetnaz? Sounds like it.

[veloci]

Whatever you do, do not endanger others. They are equally as amazing, important, beautiful, and remarkable as you are.

With that said, let's cut to the chase. If you refuse to help yourself by other means, then consider embracing the teachings of Buddhism. You are suffering because of attachment. You have not learn to embrace suffering with love. If you truly believe no other alternatives can help you Buddhism will be able to.

Good luck... The path of spiritual growth is what you need the most. Heck most people need it as well.

Oh, and you won't be able to dehumanize yourself. So long as you are a human being, you simply will not be able to. You can be different from other human beings, but the core essence to being a human is always there. Do reconsider why you are acting like this. You are a perfectly sane human.

Go toward the light, or embrace neutrality. Both will resolve your problems... Venture out of the darkness you have entrapped yourself in. It will be difficult, but sometimes the best thing you can do for yourself is question the true reason why you feel like this. I suspect you have only scratched the surface of the cause/reason.

[elucidate]

It can be hard to feel in this world, and to do exactly what you want when you have a conscience...but trying to become less human is impossible, unless you join the russian army...but I think they only take actual russians!

[Artelus]

It's impossible to not have emotions as a human being

However, if you wish to de-emphasize your relationships with others, I think the right direction to go would be to emphasize your relationship with yourself?

[starlequin]

I'm very stoic, but its not because I am not capable of feeling human emotions. It's from how I respond to and process those emotions.

[Brutha]

As far as I know there is no way to achieve this (believe me, I've tried), bar entering the russian military where they will rape and beat you until you are completely broken down and then build you up as a killing machine.

The Russian military isn't the only organisation in the world that breaks down their members to numb their emotions.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Brutha

The Russian military isn't the only organisation in the world that breaks down their members to numb their emotions.

No, but I think they are the only ones who include regular raping of boys as part of their methods...but I could be wrong there? Other military organizations probably do this as well, since it is so effective in meeting their aims.

[Le Roi]

Originally Posted by elucidate

No, but I think they are the only ones who include regular raping of boys as part of their methods...but I could be wrong there?

What is your source for this? Have you talked to a Russian Military guy who confirmed this a part of their normal training? A google search for this came up empty handed.

[180]

Were we talking about actual rape? I thought it was figurative speech. Spetnaz which is the Russian version of the Green Berets, often go through inane training including being physically punched and tied up to learn pain/torture tolerance.

[AlmostGodess]

Originally Posted by elucidate

No, but I think they are the only ones who include regular raping of boys as part of their methods...but I could be wrong there? Other military organizations probably do this as well, since it is so effective in meeting their aims.

I think this statement can hurt many. My father did the Russian Army and he is very proud of this. He drives a combat car and thinks very highly of this Army. I have often spoken to him about his years in the army and I was myself surprised to discover the discipline they build without using degrading methods.

[AlmostGodess]

To the subject: you can use brain surgery, hormones or put yourself through very difficult times and situations. However, if you can achieve this just by training your mind, I will admire and love you a lot

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Le Roi

What is your source for this? Have you talked to a Russian Military guy who confirmed this a part of their normal training? A google search for this came up empty handed.

FULL METAL TORTURE - Rape in the Red Army - Vice Magazine

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by AlmostGodess

I think this statement can hurt many. My father did the Russian Army and he is very proud of this. He drives a combat car and thinks very highly of this Army. I have often spoken to him about his years in the army and I was myself surprised to discover the discipline they build without using degrading methods.

If you wish to, you can take it up with Vice magazine, as they are the source of this statement. They sent their journalists into Russia in 2006, and did extensive interviews with soldiers who had escaped.

I wouldn't just say something like this to be hurtful, and I'm truly sorry if this has upset you, that wasn't my intention at all and I didn't realize your father was in the russian army.

Is it possible your father didn't tell you the full story? My father leaves out a LOT of things about his life, that he doesn't think I need to know about.

I'm sure he knows it would make you question his profession if he did tell you something like this was going on, not to mention upset you, which I'm sure he wouldn't want...just saying?

[Velorien]

As we cheerfully drift off-topic, I should point out that Russian military service has been cut down to one year in order to deal with hazing by seniors. I don't know, however, to what extent this has changed matters.

I should also point out that in Russia, just about everyone who can avoids military service like the plague for the reasons already cited. People who have personal influence (like politicians) use it to protect their children, while others simply go to the right doctors, who will declare you medically unfit for service for the right bribe. Unfortunately, the latter requires you to stay in Russia for several months while you undergo medical assessment, and thus is not an option for Russian citizens living abroad and not wishing to be nabbed the second they return to their home country.

I hypothesise that the Russian army was better in previous generations. I'm a big fan of the Russian fantasy author Andrei Belyanin, and his protagonists (well-educated, intelligent, emotionally balanced people on the whole) often refer to their experience of military service in distinctly positive terms, focusing on the skills they learned and expressing no complaints.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by 180

Were we talking about actual rape? I thought it was figurative speech. Spetnaz which is the Russian version of the Green Berets, often go through inane training including being physically punched and tied up to learn pain/torture tolerance.

I'm not sure if they are called the Spetnaz, as you say? You can read for yourself in the link.