why i don't want to be a model

[roxyruby]

why I don't want to be a model.

The model industry promotes low self esteem or low worth related to our physical being to make a profit.

the model industry perpetuates irrational bias elevating some human beings, lowering some human beings all for unfair brainwashed reasons.

The model industry has the philosophy of non-human beauty, they are anti-natural human. The model industry does not love human beings.

I would model IF there was a modeling industry that saw all human appearances as equally beautiful...eg I worked side by side with overweight and obese models as well as models of all varying shapes and sizes and age numbers.... basically HUMAN BEINGS.

I would model if there was a philosophy that natural is beautiful and sexy, that people look just as beautiful and sexy and desirable without makeup as they do with makeup.

I support creative expression through our physical being but also I support the natural human appearance being held up as physically worthy, desirable, attractive, hot, and sexy.

[Alstar]

There ARE modelling agencies who value natural beauty, they're just hard to find and not very successful.

[Cran]

Why is the thought of being a model/not being a model currently so prominent on your mind...?

Personall, I do not care about being artificial, or un-natural, promoting bad body-image in other people or anything, but I couldn't model even if I wanted to because I'm short.
I wouldn't want this career because it is very time-consuming and on the other hand, short-lived, so it is difficult to find time to make a decent perspective for the time after being a model, as only very, very few can hope to retire from modelling with enough money to last a lifetime.

[Angelique]

Originally Posted by roxyruby

I would model if there was a philosophy that natural is beautiful and sexy, that people look just as beautiful and sexy and desirable without makeup as they do with makeup.

You could create that! What a great idea!

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Angelique

You could create that! What a great idea!

Melbourne is full of people who don't wear make-up and who believe natural beauty is the way to be, and that didn't require any role model. I'm not sure how it came to be that there are a concentrated amount of people who think this way here, since there are also just as many people who believe in fashion and wearing make-up as being how it 'should' be...melbourne is extreme like that.

I think there are more people than you realize who operate from this thinking, and more people are becoming aware of the industries that promote fakeness as beauty and discriminate in the fashion industry. It's the whole reason they started using that great lady (can't remember her name right now) but she is obese and totally punk and loves herself and her body.

Donatella Versace has used her before in fashion parades as the fashion industry is trying to promote themselves as being more open to all sizes (even though they still only hire mainly stick thin waifs who look like they are on heroin)

[Gracestars]

Originally Posted by elucidate

It's the whole reason they started using that great lady (can't remember her name right now) but she is obese and totally punk and loves herself and her body.

Donatella Versace has used her before in fashion parades as the fashion industry is trying to promote themselves as being more open to all sizes (even though they still only hire mainly stick thin waifs who look like they are on heroin)

Beth Ditto?

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Gracestars

Beth Ditto?

That's the one. She's awesome. I know people like her, and they are unstoppable.

[Gracestars]

Yeah, she's great. I saw the Gossip the first time they toured Oz. She has a tonne of energy on stage.

Afterwards, I saw her wandering past my friends and I, pissed (drunk) and munching on a McDonalds wrap of some sort. I couldn't help myself and ran over to her and gave her a big hug. She was about to invite us with her when her entourage dragged her away. Good times!

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Gracestars

Yeah, she's great. I saw the Gossip the first time they toured Oz. She has a tonne of energy on stage.

Afterwards, I saw her wandering past my friends and I, pissed (drunk) and munching on a McDonalds wrap of some sort. I couldn't help myself and ran over to her and gave her a big hug. She was about to invite us with her when her entourage dragged her away. Good times!

cool. Sounds fun.

[missbhaven]

I don't think the model industry promotes low self-esteem, it's just a by product.
I can see why, at the end of you are choosing to work in an industry where your image is used to create an image of someone else's ideal.
When choosing to put yourself up to be a version of someone else's ideal and told no your are not or not good enough (in the case of editing) can be a deflating experience. I could see how rejection can lead to overall low self-esteem issues.
But then I could say that this selection based process is more the problem than the model industry. Sounds like the job search industry asnd how goes about getting you a job more suits your description in this quote.

The model industry promotes low self esteem or low worth related to our physical being to make a profit

[Cado]

Originally Posted by Angelique

You could create that! What a great idea!

You already have something like that with the nude modelling over at Domai. I won't link it here because there's nudity, obviously, but it's very respectful toward the women who pose and you've got all varieties, not just young and half-silicon.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Illustro Cado

You already have something like that with the nude modelling over at Domai. I won't link it here because there's nudity, obviously, but it's very respectful toward the women who pose and you've got all varieties, not just young and half-silicon.

Hey, that's a pretty wholesome looking website...like Abbey Winter. They wouldn't take me 'cos I'm older than 25.

[Laurenaus]

i loved melbourne when i visited. I'm bummed they changed the skilled occupation list i was gonna try to apply for permanent residency...

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Laurenaus

i loved melbourne when i visited. I'm bummed they changed the skilled occupation list i was gonna try to apply for permanent residency...

Bummer.Who wouldn't love Melbourne?

[Laurenaus]

I know ): I fell in love with it. I'm willing to leave socal and even the states for it haha.

[cacheborn]

Why focus on something you do not want to be?

[votoshka]

I'd be a model if they'd take me Of course if they took me it WOULD mean that they valued all shapes and sizes and different looks! When I was younger I wanted to be a model, and at the time I read that the minimum height was 5'7" (nowadays models seem to be even taller), so I didn't have a hope in hell quite honestly (not that I really have the "LOOK" either).

I always thought models should come in short and tall, fat and thin, and of course everywhere in between! There are beautiful women of all sizes, but so many women's ideas and minds are warped from a young age because they believe that to be beautiful they have to meet model standards (yup that was me lol)... Reading fashion mags as a teen had a HUGE impact on my sense of self that's impacted me until this day...

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Laurenaus

I know ): I fell in love with it. I'm willing to leave socal and even the states for it haha.

I don't blame you...but then, I'm bias.

[Porphyos]

I actually have to agree with the OP. I used to go to school with this girl who was already a professional catwalk model but she was also on the 1st season of a modelling show (similar to America's Top Model, but not). She was already very slim. However, when she was on the show they said that she would not make the final 3 because she was FAT.

Omg, if she's fat then I must be obscenely obese.

Sadly, this girl who is still working as a professional model (mostly for catwalk/runway shows) but has lost even more weight that you can literally see her bones in like her arms and stuff... sort of like a sickly thin look. Apparently this is how thin they need to be. I think I'll just be happy being 'fat'.

[Servina]

Weirdly, I wouldn't like to be a model either. Even they don't look like them.

YouTube - Models With No Makeup

and alot of them look better WITHOUT the makeup.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Servina

Weirdly, I wouldn't like to be a model either. Even they don't look like them.

YouTube - Models With No Makeup

and alot of them look better WITHOUT the makeup.

I LOVED that soundtrack.

Yeah, many of those women looked even better without make-up...Cher was not one of them!

[Servina]

Originally Posted by elucidate

I LOVED that soundtrack.

Yeah, many of those women looked even better without make-up...Cher was not one of them!

I know, but do you know what? Why should she have to live up to these boring beauty industry standards that let's face it, are just part of consumerism. She's one lady that's spent her life in search of the perfect face/body whatever. It just goes to show...it's a waste of your time sister.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Servina

I know, but do you know what? Why should she have to live up to these boring beauty industry standards that let's face it, are just part of consumerism. She's one lady that's spent her life in search of the perfect face/body whatever. It just goes to show...it's a waste of your time sister.

I agree, it was just a bit of a shock at first.

[Beuford]

Wouldn't mind it, just not attractive enough(yet).

[supertom]

Originally Posted by Beuford

Wouldn't mind it, just not attractive enough(yet).

You look like tynan, he used to be a PUA

Life Outside The Box | Tynan

also a bit of Nicolas cage

[Cheese96]

I've contemplated modeling. Something casual and for fun, never a career. However there is a certain standard of beauty that, because of evoultion, we cannot break ourselves away from. Such as having symmetrical features, large breasts, large hips (which shows that we are fertile and good partners for carrying on another's genes).

But in all honesty, I have none of these. :P I have a large nose, a large butt (which didn't affect my hips, darnit!), and small breasts. Still, I think modeling would be fun. I would like to give it a go because I want people to see my face. Also, when you are presented as a model your beauty is never questioned. Or at least your ability to model isnt. That's to say that when you are presented as a model (which seems like a harder in dustry to get into) no one questions you have some special talent to offer. Not to mention there are MANY different kinds of models so just about everyone is sure to find a type in which they have their talents to offer.

[Indiana]

Originally Posted by votoshka

I always thought models should come in short and tall, fat and thin, and of course everywhere in between!

A little industry background.

The main reason fashion models generally come in one size is that fashion designers make sample ranges in one size.

When you see a shoot in a magazine, or a catwalk show, the items that the models are wearing are 'samples' – one of just a very few pieces of that design in existence, or possibly even the only one. The designers don't go into producing full ranges (in multiple sizes) until they receive orders from buyers (for department stores, etc). As you might have noticed, shows occur about six months in advance of real time (ie. the shows in New York, Paris and Milan at the moment are for Northern Hemisphere SS2011). Right after the shows, buyers for stores all around the world put in orders for the items from each designer collection that they want, and then the designers go into full production. At around the same time, magazines borrow the samples for their fashion shoots, which are published a couple of months later (as magazines work months in advance).

It would be too expensive to make complete sample ranges in all different sizes, so designers pick one size, and then make all the samples in that size. An industry standard develops for that particular size, because it wouldn't work for magazines - the main place consumers see the new ranges - to have one designer producing only size 14 samples and one designer producing size 6s - because you couldn't mix and match outfits for fashion editorials (ie. you can't have a model wearing a size 6 top from one designer with a size 14 skirt from another).

So it's slightly more complex than just having all different shapes and sizes in magazines.

Of course, the question of why size US2-4 is the standard sample size, instead of 6-8 or 12-14 is another thing entirely.

[beast]

Originally Posted by Indiana

Of course, the question of why size US2-4 is the standard sample size, instead of 6-8 or 12-14 is another thing entirely.

Maybe it's cheaper to make size 2 clothes than size 14 clothes!

No but in all honesty, I think clotheshanger bodies wear the clothes in the way the designer intends for them to be worn. When I see a gorgeous, curvaceous woman like Sofia Vergara wearing a drees, I'm distracted by her body, and my focus isn't on the clothes.

[Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi]

Originally Posted by beast

Maybe it's cheaper to make size 2 clothes than size 14 clothes!

No but in all honesty, I think clotheshanger bodies wear the clothes in the way the designer intends for them to be worn. When I see a gorgeous, curvaceous woman like Sofia Vergara wearing a drees, I'm distracted by her body, and my focus isn't on the clothes.

Yes. I always said my son would never grow out of that meme: "I want booby." No one really does...my sisters and I used to call them "fun bags." I have no idea why. They are fun, though.

[beast]

Originally Posted by Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi

Yes. I always said my son would never grow out of that meme: "I want booby." No one really does...my sisters and I used to call them "fun bags." I have no idea why. They are fun, though.

They are! I think breasts are gorgeous, but I wouldn't want Christina Hendricks modeling my clothes, I'd want Kate Moss doing it.

Also, drees, wtf, I can't even type