Lightworking / Darkworking - A Mind Trap?

[Futhark]

Read the lightworker / darkworker articles today---

Does anyone else feel these are extremely rigid structures that limit the mind, then become extremely vague when you think of how to apply them in real life???

I know a darkworker and he has the most bizarre life ever...many of his major problems I can flick with my finger, but he has many qualities I do not (or am not as good at). I am not sure if he is shy or he just likes listening, analyzing, and mocking people. He has absolutely no emotions (or that he shows), has no regret for suffering. I know he loves playing games with people's minds as well. Many people accept him for being the genuine person he is and I wonder if he chose to be a darkworker (without the word), or if he just is that way?

Seems like this question of nature vs. nurture comes up pretty often in my thoughts. Many things tell me that my darkworker friend really is just that way. Others I know that I am wondering if they are darkworkers I believe are less so because it seems as if they have made the decision after being manipulated or stepped on.

Not sure I know I know personally any lightworkers, seems like they are in short supply, or maybe my world is more filled with darkworkeresque people, though I think of people like Eckhart Tolle.

Something makes me think of roleplaying games and how they have alignment, but in roleplaying games there is a neutral setting, there is good neutral, true neutral, or evil neutral. Could there be such thing as a true neutral polarity - I wonder as I live in Switzerland

Also not sure yet if I even want to align (well, at least not yet) - although I do understand the arguments for it.

My situation is that:

My heart tells me I am a giving person who easily has enough to go around. I have felt genuine peace of mind and fullfillment from lightworking. But I've also been trampled on hard for these tendencies. I was a genuine "nice guy" for most of my life and now that that part of me is demolished, I feel like I can be actually giving, but...

My head tells me that I have a dark side. I read books like the 48 Laws of Power and instantly feel like I have the upper hand in life - and this feels good to me. Maybe it is because being in control of the self is important. I feel that my major advances in life were when I contracted, took a chance to better myself, succeeded wildly as others watched me go by. I learned social dynamics, social engineering, psychology, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with using them...many times you end up giving other people pleasure as well (take a lover after you have mastered the lost arts of being a man).

So do you think polarization is an elaborate trap laid by a darkworker, or as a genuine act of kindness by a lightworker to help people live fulfilling lives??

[Cado]

It is a limiting mental construct when it is only a mental construct. Polarity isn't a list of behaviors, there's no do's or do not's. It's impossible to tell the difference between light and dark by behavior alone.

It's an energetic and psychological phenomenon. It is a lens which determines where you draw your energy and how you put it to use. It colors, without limiting, everything else that you do. Darkworkers can love, they can take up a cause, they can even give to charity-but even when there are no string attached they are never altruistic. I don't know how to phrase it regarding the lightworker's side of things; I suppose it would best be said that they give without concern because the energy they draw to serve the whole also nourishes them.

There's no trap and there's no pressure. Few will polarize and few that do will get very far. In action it's limiting in one regard-you can't stay asleep. The only "neutral" polarity is sleep, the reason being that people in the middle can't draw the same amount of energy a polarized person can nor can they direct it as easily and consistently. To put it succinctly, trying to stay in the middle gets you nowhere. It's attempting growth without discomfort which is an impossibility.

There is a balance but that balance is built atop your polarity. This is confounding from the outside because our tendency is to balance by moving the world rather than tuning the self and polarization makes it crystal clear what your relation to the world is going to be. Balance is only possible at that point.

[Futhark]

You didn't speak about the choice, however. As with most things in life, nothing great happens unless you are ready and you make a choice. Is it a choice, or as you say, more like a subconscious brain pattern?

Let me give you an example. I made a choice to get married. All of a sudden my polarity changes ::bam::

All of a sudden new doors open to me. Other doors slam shut in my face and I cannot go back. It was a choice and the consequences are mine to pay. The choice was based on many of my beliefs (I cannot go through life knowing I will not have children to jumpstart into this world, I believe the act of making choices and commitments is becoming less prevalent in today's society which leads to indecision which ultimately leads to failure). The "love till the end" is already taken care of, because I envisioned it, I believe it, so I don't need to try anymore - love just comes everyday.

Like I and you and Steve said, commitment is the only way to live fully. With everything in life. Choice and commitment is limiting, you are right, only if I let it become limiting. It is a mental construct. In most ways, I feel more free, I feel I am going the right direction.

I have been sleeping less since I've been married - 5 or 6 hours a day, sometimes less. I also have more energy, much of it can be considered "fear" I guess, because I realize I've made a big commitment which I am going to fullfill, but that there are also so many other things in life which need my attention. I realize the impermanence of life and cannot bear the idea of living without living fully, doing exactly it is I want. I've also discovered that what I "want" and what I "[I]want" are completely and utterly different.

Want is like I want an icecream.
WANT is like I want an icecream but it would block me from _____

Deeper and deeper I've been going into this pattern, almost starving myself of worldly pleasures because otherworldy pleasures have my focus. One day I'll probably go back to them.

The choice of saying "I want to be a dark / light worker" just seems to me utterly ridiculous. To me, the choice based on the self is worldless. You cannot ask yourself to do something, it must be in your blood, in your heart, in your mind and ready before the bucket of water overflows and topples over.

I already feel no constrain as to how I "need" to act, because every avenue that I want to be open is an open highway for me. Does this mean I've already polarized?

[Cado]

Originally Posted by Futhark

You didn't speak about the choice, however. As with most things in life, nothing great happens unless you are ready and you make a choice. Is it a choice, or as you say, more like a subconscious brain pattern?

Both. When you make a choice concerning a habit it doesn't change overnight, does it? But with repeated effort and a lot of time things begin to change. Eventually as a result of your choice you adopt an entirely different pattern which triggers automatically. That's what polarity is like-you choose your focus and, given time, it will shape your perspective and experience. Not only are you overcoming your programming but you're also streamlining it so that every action is simpler, easier to define, and easier to carry out.

What's "in your blood", so to speak, is subject to change. The ultimate expression of oneself in this world hinges on the choices each person makes. I think there are things which are intrinsic to an individual but there are often many roads by which core desires can be fulfilled. If I feel a strong sense of purpose then I'd consider it fixed but whether I use light or dark to achieve that end is up to me. (I also think it can shape the form of a desire. As I see it a desire is never about the thing itself ergo the essence (or my purpose) can remain constant though its manifestation is in flux until I've made it crystalize.)

You say you feel like all the avenues you would pursue are already open to you but could you actually get what you're after as you are now? Take polarization out of the question for a moment; if you have big dreams it's likely you'll have to change somehow to make them happen. Think of polarization as a means to that end. It gives you a clear focus, it increases the energy at your disposal, and it gives you tools that help carve the path to wherever you're going, just like getting married is a great way to ensure (or at least increase the odds) that you'll have kids in a stable home. And there are trade offs-a married man can't go ***** hunting every weekend and a darkworker won't be able to do things the way a lightworker would. There are benefits and consequences to either choice even though it's a net positive under healthy circumstances.

It's entirely possible to polarize without knowing what polarization is, it's simply a framework to give form to a psychological and energetic phenomenon. Are you polarized? I don't know, but if you rule over your unconscious programming, if you're sensitive to energy, if you're able to set your sights on big goals and pursue them with success, then it's likely that you are. If you're given to theorizing instead of acting, if your motivations shift from moment to moment without reason, if you're at the mercy of emotional highs and lows, then odds are you aren't. (Or you're very early into it.)

The trouble with these terms is that they're abstract and prone to moral associations. Martin Luther King Jr. is an obvious example of a lightworker who would have never used the term, he hadn't heard of it. George Washington, really any of the founding fathers, are excellent examples of what lawful good/neutral darkworkers would look like. The media is full of people who are polarized even though they wouldn't fit the stereotypes and they'd never use these labels. I find it makes a lot more sense when viewed in that light without the language we employ here.

[Futhark]

Originally Posted by Illustro Cado

Both. When you make a choice concerning a habit it doesn't change overnight, does it? But with repeated effort and a lot of time things begin to change. Eventually as a result of your choice you adopt an entirely different pattern which triggers automatically. That's what polarity is like-you choose your focus and, given time, it will shape your perspective and experience. Not only are you overcoming your programming but you're also streamlining it so that every action is simpler, easier to define, and easier to carry out.

What's "in your blood", so to speak, is subject to change. The ultimate expression of oneself in this world hinges on the choices each person makes. I think there are things which are intrinsic to an individual but there are often many roads by which core desires can be fulfilled. If I feel a strong sense of purpose then I'd consider it fixed but whether I use light or dark to achieve that end is up to me. (I also think it can shape the form of a desire. As I see it a desire is never about the thing itself ergo the essence (or my purpose) can remain constant though its manifestation is in flux until I've made it crystalize.)

You say you feel like all the avenues you would pursue are already open to you but could you actually get what you're after as you are now? Take polarization out of the question for a moment; if you have big dreams it's likely you'll have to change somehow to make them happen. Think of polarization as a means to that end. It gives you a clear focus, it increases the energy at your disposal, and it gives you tools that help carve the path to wherever you're going, just like getting married is a great way to ensure (or at least increase the odds) that you'll have kids in a stable home. And there are trade offs-a married man can't go ***** hunting every weekend and a darkworker won't be able to do things the way a lightworker would. There are benefits and consequences to either choice even though it's a net positive under healthy circumstances.

It's entirely possible to polarize without knowing what polarization is, it's simply a framework to give form to a psychological and energetic phenomenon. Are you polarized? I don't know, but if you rule over your unconscious programming, if you're sensitive to energy, if you're able to set your sights on big goals and pursue them with success, then it's likely that you are. If you're given to theorizing instead of acting, if your motivations shift from moment to moment without reason, if you're at the mercy of emotional highs and lows, then odds are you aren't. (Or you're very early into it.)

The trouble with these terms is that they're abstract and prone to moral associations. Martin Luther King Jr. is an obvious example of a lightworker who would have never used the term, he hadn't heard of it. George Washington, really any of the founding fathers, are excellent examples of what lawful good/neutral darkworkers would look like. The media is full of people who are polarized even though they wouldn't fit the stereotypes and they'd never use these labels. I find it makes a lot more sense when viewed in that light without the language we employ here.

Great response, I am loving this conversation. And yes, I do realize that I will have to change, and that my blood will change, with the next major steps I take. It HAS to happen. Right now what I feel is all the energy spiraling around me, consolidating into my next big decision about my life. It is in a state of perpetual motion right now, and when it crystallizes, then I can actually physically grab it and do with it what I like. It is clear to me, that now is not the time for decision. It is a time of waiting.

I've been thinking quite a bit about the Hagalaz rune, a rune that is represented by hail / sleet...one where there is a storm of change, but after, as hail is many times referred to as "seeds" by the ancients, the seeds will deposit themselves soon enough. It is all what you wish to use it for. It can either cause turmoil, or, as I said, become a crystallized form of potential energy. Waiting out the storm is a hard task at times for me, but I know that in life, in adult life especially, it is a necessary evil, and what lies afterwards I have faith will be more perfect than anything I've ever dreamed of.

The reason I love the runes is that they harmonize the events of the world and make sense of them. They describe life as an ever changing journey, describe the obstacles, the rewards, and eventually the whole process starts over again, as on a higher level. They are not all easy to overcome either. It takes much courage to realize that you are being faced with a great demon, but the runes help you realize it is an external demon, that you yourself are strong inside and must stay on course. I love it, love it, love it.

It's all about recognizing basic human and natural patterns when they present themselves, and to give the person a list of possible options to solve problems, or how to make the most of good situations. Such as, after perseverence and hardship and then reaching a climax, it is wise to celebrate, in order to communicate to the subconscious mind that you agree and are happy for doing what you did.

As far as George Washington is concerned, would you mean to say that because he is lawful good / neutral, that he slept alot? That he killed all the roosters in his town because they made noise at 6 AM? Do you think that he wasn't polarized then, and that he was unsuccessful at what he tried? That he was just a lucky NPC? And I do agree that the language we use here is nothing more than absurd and arbitrary. Lightworking and darkworking as words are such nonsense, in fact, in linguistics and in quantum physics, the more you focus on something, the less clearly you see it. The more wrong and deviated the word becomes from its original meanings. That is my basic problem with these words - they, like all words, are not timeless. They can change. Just like all "true north" principles, like mercy, they mean something different to everyone. When someone says I'm a lightworker, I think of something, they think of something else - we fundamentally disagree. That's why communication of principles seems like such a failed structure to live up to.

However, if we aim at quality of life and fullfillment for EVERYONE, then that is something that I really can't argue with. Do it however you want

[wstein]

Polarity is a limitation of the human mind. For convenience, it tries to fit the world into the model it can deal best with. Most of reality is not made of polarity so it is not a very practical approach. Since polarity does not represent reality, the whole construct is unnecessary, let it go

[Futhark]

I think what he is trying to say wstein is that when someone is polarized, it is a subconscious process. And yes, I agree, polarization is not reality. We all live in certain "reality tunnels" because our mind must construct them to function without being overwhelmed. The point is that these reality tunnels that will live in (individual "reality") must be substituted every so often, or else they stagnate and the person becomes reactive, when they should really be proactive.

An orange is a limitation of human mind, but we must eat to survive. We also recognize it because we have chose to recognize it as such to make things easier.

I wouldn't start questioning if an orange is an orange because I believe we as a culture are past that period of the 20th century of deconstruction.

Everything is being built now, on the other hand, and it is an amazing advancement.

[xfactor]

Originally Posted by wstein

Polarity is a limitation of the human mind. For convenience, it tries to fit the world into the model it can deal best with. Most of reality is not made of polarity so it is not a very practical approach. Since polarity does not represent reality, the whole construct is unnecessary, let it go

Precisely. Polarity concept is quite limiting, especially if you try to apply to everything around. I think it wasn't meant to be so wide originally.

[Cado]

Originally Posted by xfactor

Precisely. Polarity concept is quite limiting, especially if you try to apply to everything around. I think it wasn't meant to be so wide originally.

Actually it meshes with the whole of reality quite elegantly when you understand it beyond the mental-construct level. At its core its energy flow, matter and spirit radiating and attracting pure essence. All polarization means is that this process is supercharged within the things it effects. A darkworker is geared toward energy intake, a lightworker is geared toward energy output, and so many things in nature mirror this process I can't begin to count them.

And Ruthark, what I was saying about George Washington is that he was likely a darkworker, and a rather successful one. I can't imagine a prominent figure within a successful revolution being called anything but successful. America was built on darkworker principles and the founding fathers embodied that. I brought it up because everybody identifies the Emperor from Star Wars as a darkworker, or Saruman from Lord of the Rings, but few mention the lawful darkworkers which have existed through history and hold many prominent positions today. The only way to grasp it, whatever label you would use, is to see its varied manifestations-and the same is true of lightworking. Hitler is a prime example of a lightworker gone wrong.

The options are limitless, the only question is how you'll get there.

[Daniel Birdick]

Originally Posted by Illustro Cado

I brought it up because everybody identifies the Emperor from Star Wars as a darkworker, or Saruman from Lord of the Rings, but few mention the lawful darkworkers which have existed through history and hold many prominent positions today. The only way to grasp it, whatever label you would use, is to see its varied manifestations-and the same is true of lightworking. Hitler is a prime example of a lightworker gone wrong.

The options are limitless, the only question is how you'll get there.

Great points!

[pyrogen]

Does your friend actually CALL himself a darkworker? Or are you just assuming he is a darkworker?

If I've decided to be in the light/dark paradigm that day (because I'm a chaos worker and choose whatever paradigm works on a given day), I tend to notice that most people we label "darkworkers" from the outside (who do not actually call themselves darkworkers) are actually either unpolarized, or would-be lightworkers.

I actually don't really choose to follow polarity beyond "interesting paradigm that's sometimes useful in certain applications". If I want to be an artist, it's definitely helpful to shift into the polarization paradigm and be a darkworker while I'm doing art, because I can't otherwise justify to myself doing an activity which I've been brainwashed into seeing as "selfish". Strangely, it's when operating from the darkwork model that I feel I have the most love to give, because my primary needs are getting met first.

[Futhark]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

Does your friend actually CALL himself a darkworker? Or are you just assuming he is a darkworker?

If I've decided to be in the light/dark paradigm that day (because I'm a chaos worker and choose whatever paradigm works on a given day), I tend to notice that most people we label "darkworkers" from the outside (who do not actually call themselves darkworkers) are actually either unpolarized, or would-be lightworkers.

I actually don't really choose to follow polarity beyond "interesting paradigm that's sometimes useful in certain applications". If I want to be an artist, it's definitely helpful to shift into the polarization paradigm and be a darkworker while I'm doing art, because I can't otherwise justify to myself doing an activity which I've been brainwashed into seeing as "selfish". Strangely, it's when operating from the darkwork model that I feel I have the most love to give, because my primary needs are getting met first.

Absolutely not, my friend does not call himself a darkworker - he has nothing to do with Personal Development and shuns it as pseudoscience, hoodoo crap (he is a biological engineer).

Interesting. A chaos worker is then a firm believer in pragmatism, right? Whatever works on any given day is what is true? I love it, its so, true

I wouldn't dare give a pathetic word to the feeling I have when I feel truly effective and insightful. It is just pure energy. Light? Dark? Who cares, it is what it is. In the end, lightworking and darkworking are entirely selfish, personal development is entirely selfish, but in the end they are not, because fully developed and realized people have the most chance of spreading the most good and help. They just have a take a lot first in order to redistribute it based on their reality of what the world should look like - like Andrew Carnegie opened libraries, he saw a literature future. Awesome.

[Asmoday]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

Does your friend actually CALL himself a darkworker? Or are you just assuming he is a darkworker?

If I've decided to be in the light/dark paradigm that day (because I'm a chaos worker and choose whatever paradigm works on a given day), I tend to notice that most people we label "darkworkers" from the outside (who do not actually call themselves darkworkers) are actually either unpolarized, or would-be lightworkers.

I actually don't really choose to follow polarity beyond "interesting paradigm that's sometimes useful in certain applications". If I want to be an artist, it's definitely helpful to shift into the polarization paradigm and be a darkworker while I'm doing art, because I can't otherwise justify to myself doing an activity which I've been brainwashed into seeing as "selfish". Strangely, it's when operating from the darkwork model that I feel I have the most love to give, because my primary needs are getting met first.

Pyro,

Let's liken polarity to politics. Let's pretend there was a person who didn't know about the Libertarian party. But, they get up on a soapbox and start ranting their ideology. You and I, understanding the Libertarian party platform, could step back and say -- oh yeah, that guy's clearly a died in the wool Libertarian. It may be a retroactive label slap, but its still a valid statement.

And I, having watched you on the soap-box for these years, can definitely say, if you are polarized, you're a died in the wool darkworker too.

Albeit, one who loathes constraints.

[Futhark]

Originally Posted by Asmoday

Pyro,

Let's liken polarity to politics. Let's pretend there was a person who didn't know about the Libertarian party. But, they get up on a soapbox and start ranting their ideology. You and I, understanding the Libertarian party platform, could step back and say -- oh yeah, that guy's clearly a died in the wool Libertarian. It may be a retroactive label slap, but its still a valid statement.

And I, having watched you on the soap-box for these years, can definitely say, if you are polarized, you're a died in the wool darkworker too.

Albeit, one who loathes constraints.

Just another word to describe something someone is sorta like, although they would disagree with what you say because you try to pin them down

[elucidate]

This is interesting Pyro.

I think I fit somewhere here too. I know I can adopt either one depending on the day and the mood I'm in and what I want to achieve...never thought of calling it something though.

Chaos eh?

Originally Posted by pyrogen

Does your friend actually CALL himself a darkworker? Or are you just assuming he is a darkworker?

If I've decided to be in the light/dark paradigm that day (because I'm a chaos worker and choose whatever paradigm works on a given day), I tend to notice that most people we label "darkworkers" from the outside (who do not actually call themselves darkworkers) are actually either unpolarized, or would-be lightworkers.

I actually don't really choose to follow polarity beyond "interesting paradigm that's sometimes useful in certain applications". If I want to be an artist, it's definitely helpful to shift into the polarization paradigm and be a darkworker while I'm doing art, because I can't otherwise justify to myself doing an activity which I've been brainwashed into seeing as "selfish". Strangely, it's when operating from the darkwork model that I feel I have the most love to give, because my primary needs are getting met first.

[pyrogen]

Originally Posted by Asmoday

Pyro,

Let's liken polarity to politics. Let's pretend there was a person who didn't know about the Libertarian party. But, they get up on a soapbox and start ranting their ideology. You and I, understanding the Libertarian party platform, could step back and say -- oh yeah, that guy's clearly a died in the wool Libertarian. It may be a retroactive label slap, but its still a valid statement.

And I, having watched you on the soap-box for these years, can definitely say, if you are polarized, you're a died in the wool darkworker too.

Albeit, one who loathes constraints.

From you, I'll have to take that as a compliment. Even if the term is "dyed in the wool".

If I had to choose anything, the darkworker model holds the most value for me. I shift to that paradigm when I need to. I do loathe constraints, though.

If darkworker means "draw in energy" as opposed to "put out energy" then yes, that is a dominant means of operation for me. In practice though I find that being energy-receptive means that I tend to transmute energy, not merely suck the energy in and hold onto it. I can only give the amount of love, kindness and respect I first allow myself to receive. Honoring those needs first means I'm in the end, less of a wanker.

It seems a workable model for me.

I also find darkwork to be a more useful tool in dealing with the Shadow. There are plenty of egoic traps on any path, and I find that plenty of self-described lightworkers tend to be just as big of tools as the equal number of darkworkers. I would prefer to own my egoic desires than to make an attempt at being a do-gooder, all the while stabbing people in the back because my shadow's needs aren't first being dealt with. It's too easy to serve the ego in the name of serving the light. At least if I OWN my shadow, I can admit that it's there for me to deal with. Which means that in the end, I'm less of a wanker.

Originally Posted by elucidate

This is interesting Pyro.

I think I fit somewhere here too. I know I can adopt either one depending on the day and the mood I'm in and what I want to achieve...never thought of calling it something though.

Chaos eh?

Chaos is the primordial energy which preceded the universe itself, let alone human concepts (even the concept of chaos, lol).

I find my power in shifting paradigms at will and being able to alter my thinking wherever possible.

And an aside, getting back to Illustro Cado:

I agree about Hitler. I've pointed that out before. He was attempting lightwork.

And as another aside:

I sure have known a lot of people who have harmed people in the name of helping them.

Most of us just haven't attained that level of enlightenment yet, to be able to tell the difference, and only a few of us seem to really be able to put our own needs aside to be able to be a Gandhi.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

I also find darkwork to be a more useful tool in dealing with the Shadow. There are plenty of egoic traps on any path, and I find that plenty of self-described lightworkers tend to be just as big of tools as the equal number of darkworkers. I would prefer to own my egoic desires than to make an attempt at being a do-gooder, all the while stabbing people in the back because my shadow's needs aren't first being dealt with. It's too easy to serve the ego in the name of serving the light. At least if I OWN my shadow, I can admit that it's there for me to deal with. Which means that in the end, I'm less of a wanker.

I feel this way too. I think I said yesterday to Illustro Cado that I am forever vigilant of the traps the ego can set on the path, so I like to make sure there is nothing in my shadow that can sneak up from behind and bite me later! I totally agree that this is the reason so many lightworkers cause so much harm in the world...thinking you're all "holier then thou" without looking at your **** is just trouble waiting to inflict itself on others.

Chaos is the primordial energy which preceded the universe itself, let alone human concepts (even the concept of chaos, lol).

I find my power in shifting paradigms at will and being able to alter my thinking wherever possible.

Yes, I know about chaos...I just hadn't heard of it as a go-between label in this context! Did you make it up yourself?

[st33med]

Who cares if you are a darkworker or a lightworker? Just choose choices that resonate with you and you are golden!

[pyrogen]

To keep things short before I have to dart off and do something that I need to do, the answer to "did I make it up" is "yes and no".

No, in that chaos magick has always been the most resonant philosophical framework for my work, and I don't find it compatible with hard constructs of dark versus light polarity, unless one's treating these as one more useful paradigm in the toolbox.

Yes, in that I feel a connection to something I can only call the primordial force, the first energy that ever existed. It's beyond labels, beyond constructs and beyond human language... and beyond the left brain. It existed before dark OR light existed, and to me, that's where I go that all possibilities are possible.

[elucidate]

Yes, I wondered if that was where you got it from.

I am also drawn to this framework and agree, there are no words for it...It just IS!

Originally Posted by pyrogen

To keep things short before I have to dart off and do something that I need to do, the answer to "did I make it up" is "yes and no".

No, in that chaos magick has always been the most resonant philosophical framework for my work, and I don't find it compatible with hard constructs of dark versus light polarity, unless one's treating these as one more useful paradigm in the toolbox.

Yes, in that I feel a connection to something I can only call the primordial force, the first energy that ever existed. It's beyond labels, beyond constructs and beyond human language... and beyond the left brain. It existed before dark OR light existed, and to me, that's where I go that all possibilities are possible.

[xfactor]

Originally Posted by Illustro Cado

Actually it meshes with the whole of reality quite elegantly when you understand it beyond the mental-construct level. At its core its energy flow, matter and spirit radiating and attracting pure essence. All polarization means is that this process is supercharged within the things it effects. A darkworker is geared toward energy intake, a lightworker is geared toward energy output, and so many things in nature mirror this process I can't begin to count them.

I think that you can examples in nature for every concept, it doesn't really prove the lightworkers/darkworkers are real.

[xfactor]

Originally Posted by st33med

Who cares if you are a darkworker or a lightworker? Just choose choices that resonate with you and you are golden!

Thumbs up! I couldn't say it better myself!

[wstein]

Originally Posted by xfactor

Thumbs up! I couldn't say it better myself!

Second the motion!!