I'm tired. I don't do anything, I'm lazy, lack willpower, etc., etc. What do I do?

[templanoid]

Hi all,
This is my second topic in a long time here, but I hope someone can help me. While this post might sound lieka joke it really is not, I'm just lazy to expand much.. it's *really* a problem.

So I'm 24, I haven't had a job in over a year.. I was supposed to go study.. but kept putting it off until recently when I started applying.

I can never be bothered to do anything. I'm lazy, I always feel tired. I barely feel like wanting to be productive in any form.. I'll sleep where I can and love being on the Internet all night long reading sites like this or wikipedia or chatting away or watching some movie...

I have no willpower, I lack desire and I feel like I'm extremely lethargic.. I am not worried enough about my future and I'm not intelligent enough to enter a good university, so I just choose to go to a normal one that will accept me and go on with life as it takes me ... I have no plans or any sense about how my life will be directed.. and basically I'm more or less totally lost and I really cant be bothered to think much..

Hell, I can't even think of typing properly here since I feel so lazy. I've reached levels where I believe my natural energy levels are so low.. that this laziness is in my genes (I've always been lazy, right since my early childhood from my memory)..

Now I've reached the point where I'm thinknig the only way to change myself is probably to change my diet so I feel more energetic.. and even have looked into nootropics to lift away my brain fog and make me have more clarity, and have more desire to look, plan and work towards my life and the future.. I've tried ritalin before, and it does make me more productive and want to work, but sometimes it also makes me feel terrible (anxiety, emptiness, physical discomfort) so I've decided to stop it and look for alternative sources that work better..

I know this is an important enough of a problem to seek help.. but still I'm not so worried about it .. i just think about it sometimes, realized that it's a big problem, occasionally get worred about it.. and in the end I do nothing to fix it.

I need to know what I have to do in order to fix this? Is there anyway out for me? Do I have to struggle on with this lack of stamina all of my life and drag my feet to do anything? Or can food and nootropics fix me up?

I've tried finding my passion before it didnt work.. and I dont have much self-discipline.. i've read about half of steve's article.. but I just can't be bothered to finsih reading it or even do it.. even if i did finish reading it .. i know i'll end up not doing it.. I've been told a lot about what I should do.. about how i should "simply do it".. but by this point I feel totally hopeless in doing this and I don't know what to do.. I feel bad

[Ceoarob]

Have you ever tried EFT or Sedona Method or Silva Method?

I've found that anything that allows me to "release" helps out tremendously. I don't get to my destination overnight, but I DO start taking the first action steps so that I can start building momentum for myself.

I was actually in this state about a week ago and what happened was I read Napoleon Hill's "Think and Grow Rich" and I was like..."Damn, how am I ever going to do all this work to get to my dreams?"

Then there came a point where I just ****ing pissed off....at myself, others, my surroundings, my choices....I could BARELY make the right choices. All I wanted to do with my life was "piss it away" (my word choice exactly).

While I was pissing away life, I didn't care what happened, I didn't care what choices I made. Even though I was WISHING that things would be different. In reality, I just wanted them to be the same. I didn't really want to move a muscle to get started. All I wanted to do was browse forums, masturbate, play piano, sleep, eat, and stalk other people's photos on Facebook.

But there was a point that I got SO pissed off that I was like, you know what...even though I don't FEEL like doing everything for my dreams, I'm just going to imagine myself moving forwards and accomplishing them and just feeling what it would be like. So before I went to bed one night, I closed my eyes and VIVIDLY saw what I wanted my life to be like. I went down to the very details of it and saw it as if though I was moving in the reality that I wanted to be in. Whenever I did this, I just felt a surge of energy throughout my body that told me "This is what I wanted to do with my life....it's time for me to stop being a little ♥♥♥♥♥, to step up, and to start taking action"

I read a quote by Joan Baez a couple of years back that said, "Action is the only antidote to despair" and that is SOOOO true.

Whenever I was sitting and wondering, "Why is my life not the way that I want it to be?" I was being COMPLETELY passive in my life and not really taking any steps to whatever goal I wanted. Even more importantly **I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I REALLY WANTED**.

I just kept saying to myself, "I want to get better....I want to be happy, I want to not feel this bad." But I realized that trying to do that was really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I mean, yeah you can still be grateful without moving in your life. But, inside, whenever I was doing everything, I just felt as if though I was lying to myself....I felt that I wasn't living according to what I KNEW I was capable of.

There's a book that really impacted me called "The Alchemist" by Paulo Cuelho and it talks about everything that I'm talking about.

If I could tell you to *do* something, then it would be this:

"Okay, I'm going to set my entire heart on doing XXX thing. Now, I've been living my current lifestyle for a while, so I'm EXTREMELY familiar with how to do it. But, today, I'm going to try something new. I'm going to give my ABSOLUTE BEST and step out on a limb. This is JUST for today, but I'm going to set one thing for myself and DO it. Even though it might hurt, I'm going to keep on moving JUST for today. If I don't feel as if though I made any progress, then I'll go back to living the lifestyle that I was....however, JUST for today, I'm going to do something new."

I hope this maybe helped you a little bit....I know that it feels like the hardest thing in the world whenever you can't achieve something that you want in life and when it feels like you just can't even get started, and I completely sympathize.....

However, you KNOW what that path feels like that you're living on. You KNOW that it's not the thing you want to do for the rest of your life. You've been down the road you've been on for a long time and you don't like it. YOU KNOW what leads down that path whenever you take it...it might be short term pleasure, but you're KILLING the inner warrior inside you...you're KILLING your core essence....

For today, and JUST for today....do something new. Start THINKING that you can...start BELIEVING that you have the traits you need....believe in yourself....JUST for today....

You can always go back to the path your on....

Maybe this might also help you out....this is my personal journey that I take every single day, and the goals in my life that I'm moving towards....I hope you can learn something from it.

The Adventure of a Lifetime - a 19 Year Old's Quest

Cheers,

-Alexander Robinson.

[wolfgang]

get a dead end job
get exercise
take martial arts
learn music
learn an art
go dancing
talk to girls

[robcartoons]

Hi Templanoid, I recommend working on your fitness first and then that'll start to give you energy to put towards other things. Steve wrote an article which said something along the lines that if you want to make a big change in your life you should start with your physical health first.

If you do decide to start working on your fitness, choose something where you can see quick results, as that'll help boost your confidence. Say walk 2km this day and then next 3 km etc. Support is very, very helpful when getting into a new routine. I was fortunate enough to have several friends who were into weights when I started going to the gym. They helped show me what to do and get me motivated at first.

Work on your diet at the same time as fitness and you'll start to see a difference, little by little, in your energy.

Hope that helps

[templanoid]

Thanks for the responses everyone..

Ceoarob: I'll look into it. While what you suggest to me makes sense, I have to see how I can start.

Wolfgang: As mundane and hollow as that sounds, I think it's probably very profound and at least better than what I'm currently doing. Thanks

robcartoons: Actually I have been going to the Gym since about 4 years now.. not often, but 3 weeks a day.. lifting weights. Yet.. i haven't been working for the past year or so.. I'm inclined to believe my problem isn't just physical but also mental.. Since a very young age, I've always felt very tired - extremely mentally tired.. and this is what causes me to be also physically tired.. I'm thinking that I somehow need to get rid of my mental tiredness.. thats why i've been looking to nootropics and such, as I really cant find any other way to fix this.. I've heard a lot of things.. i'm not sure they work.. i really feel helpless and don't feel like i have any last resort left.

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by templanoid

Thanks for the responses everyone..

Ceoarob: I'll look into it. While what you suggest to me makes sense, I have to see how I can start.

Wolfgang: As mundane and hollow as that sounds, I think it's probably very profound and at least better than what I'm currently doing. Thanks

robcartoons: Actually I have been going to the Gym since about 4 years now.. not often, but 3 weeks a day.. lifting weights. Yet.. i haven't been working for the past year or so.. I'm inclined to believe my problem isn't just physical but also mental.. Since a very young age, I've always felt very tired - extremely mentally tired.. and this is what causes me to be also physically tired.. I'm thinking that I somehow need to get rid of my mental tiredness.. thats why i've been looking to nootropics and such, as I really cant find any other way to fix this.. I've heard a lot of things.. i'm not sure they work.. i really feel helpless and don't feel like i have any last resort left.

what's your diet like.

[templanoid]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

what's your diet like.

I eat a lot of Thai and Indian food.. so there's a lot of rice, chapati etc.. so more or less every dish is based on Carbs as a base.. I try to eat a lot of chicken (as I go to the gym, i know proteins are good), I try to avoid junk and fried foods.. but I still eat them time to time.. anything else I should mention?

I don't know how I could improve the diet to facilitate my mental tireness and fog to go away.. i have always felt very drained in my life, both mentally and physically i'm always feeling fatigued.

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by templanoid

I eat a lot of Thai and Indian food.. so there's a lot of rice, chapati etc.. so more or less every dish is based on Carbs as a base.. I try to eat a lot of chicken (as I go to the gym, i know proteins are good), I try to avoid junk and fried foods.. but I still eat them time to time.. anything else I should mention?

I don't know how I could improve the diet to facilitate my mental tireness and fog to go away.. i have always felt very drained in my life, both mentally and physically i'm always feeling fatigued.

Should I assume from your lack of mention, that you do not really get any live/real/whole foods into your diet?

[Cochonette]

To a certain extent, you have to cultivate your passion rather than simply find it. You might find something you are instantly passionate about, or maybe you will just have to spend years cultivating a passion. Even when I found something I was totally passionate about, I still had to do something in order to shape that passion into something lasting.

Anyway, the fact that you feel strongly a sense of sadness about your current state is already a type of passion, the seed of passion... it might be a negative feeling, but that can be passion, too. I was raised to be lazy... my dad was a bum, literally. So I know how you feel. Even though I didn't specifically have "a passion" for a long time, and was really lazy, I had ambition to do something, I had a passionate spirit, even if the passion was directed toward wanting to kill myself for a long time! Even if it came in the form of constant fear, anger, despair, hatred, ... that has been evolving steadily... You sound like you have a passionate spirit, too. My brother was lazy, he did want to get better and did also, but I still don't think he's that passionate... I find it hard to imagine him going on a forum saying he was bummed out about his life. He doesn't seem to have passion that way, he likes to play computer games, seems content working at Wal-Mart. I mean, he probably does have passion to some extent, but not as much as I do and probably not as much as you do, and even he seems to be getting past his laziness.

Keep focusing on improving yourself... eventually things will start to come together. If you are at rock bottom, it will take a while to get to a place on par with everyone else as far as getting things done goes, but patience will be helpful. Though, honestly, I don't think most people care, or know how to direct their passion... anymore than you do... they may have a bit more discipline, but they are probably still too lazy to read a book or a blog with articles longer than those on ZenHabits. The fact that you have been reading a lot of Steve's blog puts you ahead of a lot of people. You must seek out the answers, though. You are already doing that, but you must continue to do so if you want to improve. Continual improvement means continual effort.

[ZHereford]

Originally Posted by templanoid

I don't know how I could improve the diet to facilitate my mental tireness and fog to go away.. i have always felt very drained in my life, both mentally and physically i'm always feeling fatigued.

Have you had a physical? Maybe you suffer from a medical condition. It sure sounds like it. Maybe it's not laziness at all!

[templanoid]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

Should I assume from your lack of mention, that you do not really get any live/real/whole foods into your diet?

I do eat legumes like chickpeas, lentils, peas and beans in my food .. at least once a week.. but yeah i guess that's a bout it, when i have the chance, i try to eat the healthier brown rice or chapati made of whoel wheat.. is that consider real or whole? Atl east once a week I eat vegetarian.

Originally Posted by Cochonette

To a certain extent, you have to cultivate your passion rather than simply find it. You might find something you are instantly passionate about, or maybe you will just have to spend years cultivating a passion. Even when I found something I was totally passionate about, I still had to do something in order to shape that passion into something lasting.

Anyway, the fact that you feel strongly a sense of sadness about your current state is already a type of passion, the seed of passion... it might be a negative feeling, but that can be passion, too. I was raised to be lazy... my dad was a bum, literally. So I know how you feel. Even though I didn't specifically have "a passion" for a long time, and was really lazy, I had ambition to do something, I had a passionate spirit, even if the passion was directed toward wanting to kill myself for a long time! Even if it came in the form of constant fear, anger, despair, hatred, ... that has been evolving steadily... You sound like you have a passionate spirit, too. My brother was lazy, he did want to get better and did also, but I still don't think he's that passionate... I find it hard to imagine him going on a forum saying he was bummed out about his life. He doesn't seem to have passion that way, he likes to play computer games, seems content working at Wal-Mart. I mean, he probably does have passion to some extent, but not as much as I do and probably not as much as you do, and even he seems to be getting past his laziness.

Keep focusing on improving yourself... eventually things will start to come together. If you are at rock bottom, it will take a while to get to a place on par with everyone else as far as getting things done goes, but patience will be helpful. Though, honestly, I don't think most people care, or know how to direct their passion... anymore than you do... they may have a bit more discipline, but they are probably still too lazy to read a book or a blog with articles longer than those on ZenHabits. The fact that you have been reading a lot of Steve's blog puts you ahead of a lot of people. You must seek out the answers, though. You are already doing that, but you must continue to do so if you want to improve. Continual improvement means continual effort.

Thanks for your post Cochonette, appreciate it. I think I agree with you generally, it seems to make sense. I think I do have some passions about some things in life, however, as you said one needs to do something in order to cultivate.. and that's exactly the problem I seem to have.. i cant seem to find the energy (physically and mentally) to do. This is what depresses me as I wish I always felt the level of energy (not just physical but also mental) I get after say a pill of Ritalin or the occasional coffee that works.. most of the time I feel fatigued. I really wish to further extend my passions and get something out of it/them.

Originally Posted by ZHereford

Have you had a physical? Maybe you suffer from a medical condition. It sure sounds like it. Maybe it's not laziness at all!

After years of going through this, I've talked about the possibility of this being a medical condition with the people around me and a couple of doctors before.. and most if not all of them simply shrug it off as nothing, as no big deal. I really hope that is true.. and if it is true.. what could fix this? I have heard alot about how i have to "just do it" or "get my ass up out of laziness" or something along those lines..but even when i do get myself up and going, i'm still lethargic and never quite seem to do things efficiently or with clarity.. there's always some level of lethargy, a certain amount of brain fog (takes a lot of energy to decipher/understand things clearly), emotions of indifference, lack of desire to do anything.

[ZHereford]

Originally Posted by templanoid

After years of going through this, I've talked about the possibility of this being a medical condition with the people around me and a couple of doctors before.. and most if not all of them simply shrug it off as nothing, as no big deal. I really hope that is true.. and if it is true.. what could fix this?

'Talking about' it with doctors is categorically different than going through extensive tests and examination. To me it definitely sounds medical, since you clearly express the desire to be more energetic, but not the capability. It could be some blood disorder, or something similar.

I would go in for some tests, templanoid, and get to the bottom of this! I wish you the best!

[ssandra]

Hi,

What helped me tremendously is knowing my thoughts and emotions and second step to control and at will change my thoughts and emotions.

Thoughts like "I'm lazy, I'm not intelligent" keep making you feel bad about yourself. That will continue to affect your life.

If you feel like your life is not worth living, your brain will "shut down" and try to drown you in stuff that doesn't matter (browsing this forum, wikipedia, watching movies etc).

That way you don't have to actually stop, stand still and think about what you are doing.

I would suggest to start with meditation. Something to quiet down your mind.
Also, notice all thoughts that you are having in a day and notice if they are helping you or not.

Second step would be to control your thoughts and emotions, but I think it is important to start with step 1, which is quieting down your thoughts with meditation and during the day just noticing your thoughts as if they are from a third person.

[templanoid]

Originally Posted by ZHereford

'Talking about' it with doctors is categorically different than going through extensive tests and examination. To me it definitely sounds medical, since you clearly express the desire to be more energetic, but not the capability. It could be some blood disorder, or something similar.

I would go in for some tests, templanoid, and get to the bottom of this! I wish you the best!

What kind of tests can I get? I mean what exactly do I tell the doctor if I want these tests - is there a certain name? Because most doctors wouldn't really take me serioiusly if I just went in and told them "I'm feeling very tired, lethargic and lazy, can you please test me?"

I have had a blood test done before, I'm not sure of the extact things that it tested, but it was a generic blood test.. which I guess is the standard one most people do, and my doctor said everything was in good levels, except for slightly low cholesterol. But this blood test may have not checked other important things...

Thanks for your advice ZHereford.

Originally Posted by ssandra

Hi,

What helped me tremendously is knowing my thoughts and emotions and second step to control and at will change my thoughts and emotions.

Thoughts like "I'm lazy, I'm not intelligent" keep making you feel bad about yourself. That will continue to affect your life.

If you feel like your life is not worth living, your brain will "shut down" and try to drown you in stuff that doesn't matter (browsing this forum, wikipedia, watching movies etc).

That way you don't have to actually stop, stand still and think about what you are doing.

I would suggest to start with meditation. Something to quiet down your mind.
Also, notice all thoughts that you are having in a day and notice if they are helping you or not.

Second step would be to control your thoughts and emotions, but I think it is important to start with step 1, which is quieting down your thoughts with meditation and during the day just noticing your thoughts as if they are from a third person.

Ssandra, thanks for your reply, much appreciated. Meditation is a great advice I believe, and I admit I don't do much of it.. but I really don't think that I'm unintelligent.. the real problem for most of my depression seems to stem from just being too tired to do anything.. it's extremely tiring to push myself to do some activity, or to push my mental faculties to do something require extended focus like math, reading a book or anything that require a lot of conscious effort.. I just feel very fatigued, and after so long I'm not sure if it's only emotional anymore. But this sure does *cause* negative emotions in me, I feel quite drained.

[sonde]

Originally Posted by templanoid

Ssandra, thanks for your reply, much appreciated. Meditation is a great advice I believe, and I admit I don't do much of it.. but I really don't think that I'm unintelligent.. the real problem for most of my depression seems to stem from just being too tired to do anything.. it's extremely tiring to push myself to do some activity, or to push my mental faculties to do something require extended focus like math, reading a book or anything that require a lot of conscious effort.. I just feel very fatigued, and after so long I'm not sure if it's only emotional anymore. But this sure does *cause* negative emotions in me, I feel quite drained.

You say that it is very tiring to push yourself to mentally do something - or make conscious effort. What you perhaps do not realise, is all your unconscious or subconscious effort/thought that is making you tired or depressed. This subconscious effort/thought becomes more conscious via meditation.

Meditation is essentially noticing thoughts as they become present, and as we become more skilled at this we begin to see thoughts that at one time arose, but of which we were not aware. Meditation is actually less tiring than thinking as it is essentially just being aware of what is being thought - like resting and watching the world go by.

And our emotions are good pointers as to what thoughts are present.

With best wishes,

[Lioness]

Originally Posted by templanoid

What kind of tests can I get? I mean what exactly do I tell the doctor if I want these tests - is there a certain name? Because most doctors wouldn't really take me serioiusly if I just went in and told them "I'm feeling very tired, lethargic and lazy, can you please test me?"

Ask to test for thyroid function, anemia/low iron, and hypoglycemia/low blood sugar.

Get more aerobic/cardio exercise rather than lifting weights. Running/walking, especially in the morning can improve your overall energy and mood.

Eat more fresh fruits and veggies, drink plenty of water.

[ZHereford]

Originally Posted by templanoid

What kind of tests can I get? I mean what exactly do I tell the doctor if I want these tests - is there a certain name? Because most doctors wouldn't really take me serioiusly if I just went in and told them "I'm feeling very tired, lethargic and lazy, can you please test me?"

As Lioness correctly states:

Ask to test for thyroid function, anemia/low iron, and hypoglycemia/low blood sugar.

There also many diseases in which excessive fatigue is a factor such as adrenal fatigue syndrome, also known as chronic fatigue syndrome, Epstein-Barr virus, Hypothyroidism. I'm sure if you give your doctor a detailed account of your symptoms he'll know which blood tests to order.

[templanoid]

Thanks for your help everyone, I appreciate each and every one of the posts.

I'll go get the blood tests this weekend for the things that you mentioned. Will let you know of what happens.

[robcartoons]

Hope the tests go well for you.

[TonyToneTone]

Spend some time deciding what you want from life. You feel lazy and lack will power because you have no direction. Grab a pen and paper, go into a quiet room and then write for 15 minutes everything you want to do, be, and have. Then, write out a plan on how you are going to achieve what you wrote. Then get to WORK!

Spend 5 minutes a day seeing your plan as complete to keep your motivation strong and keep on keeping on. "Act as though it were impossible to fail." Chase your dream as if you knew it could happen.

As you also said, change your diet. Start eating more live foods. Get a fruit juicer and juice every day. You'll be pumping some real vitality into your life.

What do you read? Go to your local bookstore and get some self-improvement books. Start reading something good every day.

Do some kind of exercise. Even a 10 minute walk a day.

[Fuujin]

I am not that much "far" like others, but I will suggest asking yourself this

"Is there anything in the back of my mind, that If I can achieve it without fail, if i had the moeny needed, if i had the circumstances needed etc.. I would do ?"

I think you get the point.. This helped me personally

Btw, I stopped eating meat about 2 years ago and it helped me be more energetic, +lots of benefits.. If you are interested you can try vegetarian, vegan, or even raw food diet, study about those diets, maybe you will find it useful.

Good luck

[lifeforce]

I can feel you. I´ve been there. Trying to find my purpose and motivation and happiness and dicipline and what not. While at the same time, being lazy with no work, stuck in a cozy yet extremely boring comfort zone.

To put it simply, I was bored.

Instead of working on dicipline, willpower, energy, health etc. independently, choose a goal that encompasses all these qualities like an umbrella. Finding your purpose is not what you should be focusing on. Getting out of a rut is what works.

I would advice you to work on your fitness. I´m not talking about mindlessly lifting iron in a gym. I say do it bigger. Join a group, find a triathlon or something that will take some willpower and conditioning to finish, and work towards that. You may not finish, but the mere fact that you completed it will surge your self esteem like nothing else. I joined a jujitsu class where the instructor is an ex-marine Sargent something. The first belt grading was a two hour grappling match. To paint a picture, on my first training session, I was on the floor drenched in my own sweat gasping for air after five minutes. It was intense, but I had a goal to work on and my focus was fixed on that goal. After the grading, six months into training, I blacked out from exhaustion and went half blind for three of hours and couldn´t sleep with banging headaches. But you know what? The pain, it was worth it. All the hard effort. I loved it. I am so proud, I feel like I can achieve anything. After this, there is nothing I can´t do. I think you need that kick in the butt. Willpower, self discipline and confidence comes naturally from working at a goal like that. Drive and motivation and energy will spike so high that you have problems sitting still. At this point, you will likely feel a strong need to "just DO something, like whats next". Most likely, you´ll have to just pick something to find out what you don´t want, and through that figure out what you do want. How can you figure out what you want when you have no experence to base it off?

The good thing about a triathlon or whatever is that you will have days when you don´t feel like working out, sleeping, eating good and so on. However, doing a triathlon in bad shape is basically more painful, and therefor motivates you to do it. I read think and grow rich to cultivate a burning desire for achieving the grading.

And quit all the personal development reading. At this point, reding more of it will only sink you deeper into guilt, greef, apathy and fear. You know this.

[TheOptimist]

Hey - I'm exactly in the same position as you are - I'm just too lazy to do anything if it is cloathing properly, opening the windows to let in fresh air or sometimes I'm even too lazy to eat or drink something

I just don't feel those things are worth doing it - it's as if I've never known a thing worth doing it because I think the outcome is just not worth the effort i put in. The only thing I've found that sometimes work for me is arts and self developement or meditation in the form of sending love to others - but for me even those things are only a pathway to getting to a higher things that's worth doing it - in my mind i think this would be somthings that's worth doing it for the thing it self not for something else (like Einstein once quoted it)

The only motivation I've recognized lately was the motivation I got if someone truely from their heart wanted me to succeed (like a teacher, or mother or something) but I think that's not real motivation but only kind of guilt - the second form of motivation i recognized is the one I get if I don't do anything for a long time - this means no tv - no pc - nothing just sleeping - and after a few days I get so tired from it that the seed inside me suddenly blossoms and I'm extremely motivated and feel like I have the power to do something amazing - something worth doing it - but as fast as this can come - it can go and sometimes it's like I grab my camera - hop into the car and am extremely motivated and want to create something increadibel - and then suddenly it's gone

hope that's not too much - too confusing and too crazy

So I'll join in here and see if we all together can find something to help you and the others - who certainly exist out there

cheers tom

[templanoid]

Thanks for your posts everyone, I've read each and every one of your posts and I really appreciate your words. And that's exactly how I feel: Things are not worth the effort. I'm just not bothered, I'm not bothered to feel like there's nothing I can't do.. "big deal" is what I think..

Anyway, I got my bloodtests back, and well.. my doctor says everything is normal. :/

Here's an attachment of the copy of my results...


:/

[Lioness]

Originally Posted by templanoid

Things are not worth the effort. I'm just not bothered, I'm not bothered to feel like there's nothing I can't do.. "big deal" is what I think..

Anyway, I got my bloodtests back, and well.. my doctor says everything is normal. :/

Don't be discouraged, you've ruled out most physiological causes for your lack of energy. The next step is to implement a plan for increasing it.

1) Since you say you were lethargic even as a child, you may have a mild depressive disorder. Consider therapy to determine if this is the case and if medication might help.

2) Do morning cardio, whether it be running, biking, treadmill, jumping rope, aerobic videos, rebounding on a trampoline, basketball, etc. Something to get your blood flowing and your heart pumping.

3) Take a multivitamin daily, and as someone else here suggested, try juicing and green smoothies.

4) Make looking for a job your mission. You need something constructive to do (and money, I would think!) Make a daily plan of things to do to give structure and purpose to your day.

5) Go out and socialize more. You get feedback and energy from other people and good relationships.

[Lauxa]

I agree that you need to add cardio to your routine. It is proven to boost "executive function" in the brain which is directly correlated to motivation levels.

[Andrew Brunelle]

Food can definitely pick you up. Eating a healthy diet is the cornerstone of good health. You should try exercising as well. Exercise gives people a boost that they can't get anywhere else and is effective for depression and lack of energy. It also gets the blood flowing and helps you build muscle and lose fat. You will be running more efficiently that way. It is very hard to get out of a state of apathy or laziness, but the rewards definitely outweigh the benefits. Believe me, I know from direct experience. You will be thankful.

[masnom]

This might sound silly, but I'm serious. Read 'The Martian Chronicles' by Ray Bradbury. If you like it, then read anything else by him. That guy's a genius. He's been writing every day since he was twelve and is ninety one now and hasn't stopped. He's stated that he's never been depressed in his life because of writing. His passion and enthusiasm for life is in the words of his stories. They're enormous fun and get you thinking.

Like I said, it might sound silly but it just might work and give you some inspiration. He gave a talk you can find on youtube called 'An evening with Ray Bradbury' where he suggests writing to cleanse, understand oneself and bring happiness. 'Anyone can write one short story a week' he says 'And I defy you to write fifty two bad ones.' This he considers the reason for his lifelong happiness, being proud of himself for accomplishing something at the end of every week.

Keep in mind, a lot of modern so called Art, films made for money, TV shows that go on and on etc, they can numb the brain. Most have no point. Bradbury wrote for love, not money, and he passes on a lot of wisdom, and the stories are great fun.

Just get The Martian Chronicles and give it a try. (The first story may seem a little odd, but it picks up straight afterward.)


I hope it helps.


George.

[TonyToneTone]

Maybe you should see a therapist. It could be a lot of help to talk to someone professional.

[winkie]

I have been in a similar position at times , tired and uninspired. My solution ? I do something physically demanding, ( For me , about 20 Hindu squats) 3 times a day. These little bursts of effort take about 30 seconds each time, although it leaves me breathing hard for about a minute or so. And this is the key. My body gets fully Oxygenated, and my blood flow increases for much longer than the exercise really takes. I do it even when I don't really feel like it. Result ? . Three weeks , and it's like a motivation miracle . Good Luck my Friend