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| Character & Contribution Values, integrity, finding your purpose, living your purpose, serving the greater good, making a difference, changing the world, charity, polarity, lightworkers, darkworkers |
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I'm testing the water. There has been a definate conflict in my intentions for some time, no doubt about that. At this stage I can't pin-point that this is why, but it's worth investigating - and as far as I can tell I don't need to put any effort into changing my actions at all, it's only my motivation which I can now be more clear on. Correct? So initially I'm looking at this polarity stuff and thinking, well I have to be a light-worker right? I've got my blog about meditation and diet and what-not, and there's no doubt I get a kick out of helping people. But does that mean my core motivation is to better society and give to the world? Well I took a look into that, and actually it's not. At all. I took a look through my logs performing Steve's "life purpose" exercise and get a feeling for the ones which really resonated with me... And sure enough the ones that sent a chill through my spine are things like this... To grow myself in powerful ways, To master my own self and bring myself into alignment with my goals, To understand and experience fully the process of self-mastery, To live a life of absolute quality, To live in abundance of wealth and luxury. I also notcied a huge section of "purposes" which begain with a certain set of words... all of those resonated somewhat with me ... The words the all began with...? "To fulfill myself by... (x, y, z)" ... S***... Well ce la vie you know! As far as I'm concerned being a dark-worker does not at all mean that I can't help people - it just means that I'm not motivated by it at my core. It also doesn't mean I have to be a dickhead - so in-fact I don't buy this good/evil stuff at all... I read some thread about Hitler being a darkworker... well the truth is I think he was a LIGHTworker... he believed he was doing what he did for the glory of the german people... it's well documented that Hitler actually had a very low self-worth. So just because you get your motivation from spreading your wisdom doesn't mean you're actually doing good. I'll be consciously paying attention to my motivation as a dark-worker for the next week. If things feel more "in-pole" throughout then... well... the choice is made. This post feels quite personal to make... |
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Since you're going down this road, I highly recommend The Crimson Curtain, especially the Rooting Meditation and the Foci Exercise. That'll give you a good feel for what this path is like. And I know you said a week but I'd say go a full 30 days. That's about how long it'll take to see results. You'll learn things about yourself you couldn't fathom (or just didn't wanna look at) and you're not gonna get a good feel for what's really going on inside you unless you give it time to play out. The energy is wonderful but it's also revealing-it's not for the faint of heart. It takes a lot of work. You wanna chat about this feel free to hit me up. I'm pretty new myself but I've got enough experience under my belt to give you a rundown of the basics. |
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Those links were interesting, I really resonated with the root chakra meditation(for females), so I think I will give that one a go for a week or more...see what I notice changes, if anything? Thanks
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Honestly I got little out of those meditations - and I am somewhat of a meditation enthusiast. However this whole darkworker experiment has been EXTRAORDINARILY INTERESTING to say the least... I'm intending on blogging about it in the near future... I believe this - polarity that is - is incredibly potent if you use it correctly. In my model - a darkworker is not necessarily more evil or good than a lightworker if you define people by their actions and not by their intent. Infact you can be a samaritan darkworker should you chose - and likewise you could be a lightworker mass-murderer. The only difference is motivation. A lightworker murderer (Hitler) would kill for the (in his opinion) good of others, a samaritan darkworker would help others for his own fulfillment (even if he rationalises that he's doing it for others, the key is that his core motivation is a sense of pleasure in himself). I think a lot of people probably misunderstand that, and that's why they misunderstand polarity. Now - there's no doubt that since trialing darkworker I have felt more intune with myself, better aligned with myself, more congruent, and finally more synchronised. I realise some of these terms are rather ambiguous but I'm not ready to extrapolate just yet. All in all I feel much less conflicted. |
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A tool you may really like is the collage. There's practically no way someone wouldn't benefit from it. Isolation is another great exercise if you don't already do that kind of thing on a regular basis. Glad to hear this is working out for you at any rate. | |
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The isolation exercise is something I have been doing, off my own batt for about 17 years now, so I know the extreme pleasures and benefits of this time spent alone. I haven't gotten around to the collage yet, though, since I learnt of it, I have felt as though alot of the clinging to stuff as my identity, has loosened quite alot without even sitting down and doing it, just recognising that I need to do this has helped things kick-start quite alot already. I have also been meditating for about 10 years now, and I feel like I have alot of vitality already. Not sure if I need to do the meditation, but I will, just to see if anything different is noticeable from my other ways. It is good to break up routines and try new things every now and then, I find. |
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I think I may join this lil experiment.... for a month though. I feel I have more darkworker tendacies than light, my belief if more along your lines. I would be doing Good becuase it makes ME feel good. I was wondering if anyone wants to be my study buddy? I'm a great organizer and then fall threw about half way threw the time. So I could use a lil support after the first 2 weeks. Soo far, I know I'll plan on 1 hour each weekday (in order of importance): mediation, yoga/exercise, personal development reading, creative time, practice/career training. No lay-laying. I plan on starting today. Any other recommendations? |
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I'm fixed on this one... Polarity works - and I'm a darkworker. I can see that at some point I'm going to have to write a massive article on why being a dark-worker is not necessarily a bad thing for the people around me or society as a whole. But we'll save that for a rainy day |
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The #1 Mistake People Make When Using the Law of Attraction And reading the next two articles, plus Steve's articles on Lightworking and Darkworking. A short summary: people tend to be motivated by helping others or by helping themselves. At a high level of consciousness, you realize that these are very entwined goals. But you're much more effective if you make decisions from one perspective than if you try to use both perspectives. Very few people pick one perspective, most of them flit around between helping others and helping themselves. Polarization is choosing one option, and living your life by it. It's not possible to tell whether someone polarizes as a Darkworker or Lightworker by looking at their actions, because at a high level of consciousness the two become very similar. | |
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Thanks. If this is so, I think I polarized years ago. When I help someone else, I know that I am getting something out of it too...but it's win/win...so what's the problem? Where's the air of mystery here? It just makes sense. Quote:
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| You may have caught a glimpse. I couldn't tell from your post whether you thought you'd polarized and sustained it or if it was a momentary thing. If it's the latter then I'm in no position to say as you may well have gotten a primer for the real thing. I got a couple of those myself before I dove in. If you think you might have been polarized the whole time, what I said above stands-you'll know it when you are.
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I have a slightly different take from Pavlina, mostly over the fear-based issue, but in general, Steve and I do see many parts the same way. While it is, in my classic style, long-winded in an effort to be complete, I offer up these two articles: Polarization and Polarity What is a Darkworker? Hope that helps. | |
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You look really familiar to me, were you ever in the Air Force? | |
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Thankyou Asmoday! O.k. I just finished reading that explanation of Polarity, and it is so much clearer to me now what it is. Quote:
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I agree that it is a wrong just to assume that darkworker is evil and a lightworker is good. But not everybody does judge on actions alone and not intentions. A possible problem with darkworkers is that if they felt differently they wouldn't help others. Even if you did help someone as a darkworker in a hypothetical situation, but only because it benefitted you, there is something inherent in our popular moral psyche that say you should do moral things REGARDLESS of your motivation, and NOT only if you want to. For a darkworker to be morally good, she must have a character that believes helping herself involves helping others. But what happens when the darkworker doesn't feel that doing the "morally right" thing is advantageous from a selfish perspective? In this way, darkworking is reliant upon human nature being good in order for morality to prevail. And don't we forgive someone for doing something we consider to be morally wrong, if we feel they honestly had our best interests at heart? Whereas say somebody does something nice to you, but it turns out it was only for a selfish motive, doesn't it kind of diminish the value of the act a bit? Generally, morality seems to aim at being a normative requirement, i.e. that you must do something regardless of whether or not your want. Otherwise, or to a lesser degree, we must judge on intentions. --------- Of course, i could use the exact same argument against lightworkers: we could say they should do the morally right thing regardless of whether they thought it would help others, as opposed to themselves with the darkworker. However, we tend to forgive or understand this activity more than the darkworker, who does something morally wrong for selfish reasons. --------- Another thing i thought is that being a darkworker involves being more "realistic" and also "materalistic." It definitelty seems to be more of a primitive or lower frequency energy, and more masculine as said on another thread. Lightworking tends to be more "idealistic" and "spiritual." It seems to involve wanting to "evolve" and get a "higher energy," and involves more feminine qualities such as compassion, empathy and the like. Also, being a darkworker tends to involve more building of the ego and individualisation, and also probably more right wing. Being a light worker may involve trying to lessen the ego, may have a more collective viewpoint, and may well be more left wing. Being a darkworker will come across as being more cynical, a lightworker will seem more naive. A light worker may believe more in principles, a dark worker may believe more in pragmatism and what "gets the job done". This are some of my prejudices towards the subject. ---- Last edited by Jaiysun4; 02-12-2010 at 10:42 PM. |
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| It's interesting, though, how much that simple difference matters. Following Steve's articles exclusively, I would have gone the psychopathic route as I would have confused the emotion of fear for something deeper and I would have strengthened my ego without doing anything to bring it under control or deal with old pain.
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So I'm confused by / I'm not sure I buy the darkworker / lightworker thing. Like blossom says, the right answer is clearly "win / win". But it doesn't seem like you have to be a great spiritual master at a super-high level of consciousness to realize that helping others and helping yourself converge... I feel like anyone who cares about personal growth enough to, say, post on this forum is probably conscious enough to realize that "win / lose" and "lose / win" don't really work. So instead of "polarizing" around caring about others or caring about yourself, wouldn't it be a better path to polarize around mutual growth / spiritual one-ness / making the entire organism succesful?
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I am trying to understand polarity as a daily, practical choice. Is the understanding that we choose one or the other polarity exclusively as we go through life, or is it that we can pick and choose polarity for each individual intent? Some intents work better as incoming than outgoing and I am unclear if when we choose a polarity it is for all our intents, or individual and specific intents. I hope I was able to express my question clearly and thank you in advance to anyone who can answer my question. echo Last edited by echoohce; 06-12-2010 at 06:58 PM. Reason: language not precise enough |
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Never mind, I was able to answer my own question. I don't like the lightworker/darkworker terminology. It smacks of judgmentality. (Is that a word?) Anyway, I have been able to identify how I have been living my life predominantly as one polar energy without even realizing it, and after 51 years on the planet it hasn't been working too well for me. So I am now consciously switching teams. |
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