When we lose EVERYTHING then we are free to do ANYTHING

[rak]

It’s hard to adopt changes in life when you are very attached; it’s hard to move-on if you’re a type of person who has a mentality of “I AM WHAT I HAVE”

You know this people, they define their selves by the brand of cloths they wear, the title of their position, the amount of salary they receive every month, the car they drive, how beautiful their girlfriend/wife is, how’s their pictures looks like in face-book, from what school they graduated, how many license they have, what’s their business, what places they hang-out, who’s their friend, what’s their hobby, from what roots their family came from and I have many things to write about them but now I’ll stop from this point.

And it will not surprise me if one day when they experience “Satoray” the instant awakening, where they may realize or discover something “profound” like knowing what they really want to do in life or understanding the absolute meaning of happiness but after knowing that, they become immobilize to follow that calling because this things that they HAVE is holding them back and do you know what most people do?

They just keep ignoring their calling, until this voice totally fade away and gone. From there they become zombies, a living dead, doing things that they hate, keep fooling their selves by trying to pretend happy or secure but deep on their gut they know the truth that they are not safe neither happy. Until one day the nature or the SOURCE taken away all of their belongings, this belongings represent as their status symbol, some people didn’t recover because they believe that once their possession was gone they will vanish too. While some people survive and take this as a GO SIGNAL to follow the life they want to live.

I been in this situation before, when the things that you earned from your hard work was gone by just a snap of a finger. Yes! It really feel bad because you will start all over again to save money and everything but I cannot deny the fact that somewhere in my heart I feel very good too, I think the reason for that is having the sense of FREEDOM, because from that moment when I lose the possession that I am protecting for a long time I felt being FREE! It seems those possessions owns me for a long time and now it’s gone, I am not being owned by nobody or anything.

That’s why I can whole heartedly connect my feelings to the movie “Fight Club”. For me Tyler Durden is like a new age messiah who enlightens many people who enslave their own selves.

Actually the title of this article originates from his line and to nail it down. He also said to Edward Norton when they are in the Bar restaurant that


“The things you own… Stop owning you”


Its little bit unwise for me that why we will going to wait until tragedy or some incident will hit us and take away the possessions that holding us back before we change our life?

I believe tragedy is not necessary as a motivation, because we have the greater power to just take it off and do what we want to do. I know it’s hard, but I also knew that it is doable.

Maybe that is the bad effect of watching too much TV it makes you believe that changes is easy, by just a wave of the magic wand, everything will be just fine not until when we hit the rock bottom and starting to realize that life is not a fairy tale and guess what when the time you realize the so called TRUTH its too late and you only have few remaining years to live your life.

But actually there is no TOO LATE to a person who is decided to change his life for the better and willing to be crushed and burned (not literally) by consequences that may backfire at him, but everybody knew who been in this transition stage that the reward is very worthy.

Its true that its more easy to move-on when your back-pack is empty but why are we going to wait the time that those stuffs will snatch from us before we walk the road that will lead us to the destination we want to reach?

Do not wait to lose everything before doing anything you want. Why are we going to wait if we can do it right now?

With all my love
Rak

When we lose EVERYTHING then we are free to do ANYTHING « Rocky Rivera

[Eduard E]

I think we need to achieve a new way of thinking in which all these external things (our car, our job tittle, our salary, our girlfriend) do not define us. Rather, these things are just accessories we add over our core self. They can add value, but they do not define us. Unfortunately, a lot of us spend so much time chasing these things we forget this.

[escapeplan]

Originally Posted by Eduard E

I think we need to achieve a new way of thinking in which all these external things (our car, our job tittle, our salary, our girlfriend) do not define us. Rather, these things are just accessories we add over our core self. They can add value, but they do not define us. Unfortunately, a lot of us spend so much time chasing these things we forget this.

Well, until today I would have agreed with you. The problem is that Steve in his fashion forum has today decribed fashion as a way of communicating- like speaking and writing.

If he's right, they do define us. Communication is after all an expression of oneself and that's surely what defines us. And why stop at expensive shirts? Are cars, mansions and supermodel partners not communication as well. What's the distinction.

For what it's worth I agree with you and the OP but my head has been taken for a joy ride today thanks to Mr. Pavlina!!!

[The Unconquered]

Originally Posted by escapeplan

Well, until today I would have agreed with you. The problem is that Steve in his fashion forum has today decribed fashion as a way of communicating- like speaking and writing.

If he's right, they do define us. Communication is after all an expression of oneself and that's surely what defines us. And why stop at expensive shirts? Are cars, mansions and supermodel partners not communication as well. What's the distinction.

For what it's worth I agree with you and the OP but my head has been taken for a joy ride today thanks to Mr. Pavlina!!!

No. Rak and Steve are actually in agreement here.

Fashion is a way of communicating. Instead of dressing by default and letting fashion define him, Steve is learning how to communicate his message through fashion. He now owns it.

[Piercetheveil]

expressing and defining are two different things.

[vertanno]

I'm familiar with the Fight Club philosophy of "it's only once you've lost everything that you'll be free do anything" but it's naive to only consider this in terms of possesions and clothing.

I'll parody Maslow's hierarchy of needs here, in Chuck Palahniuk's character "Tyler"'s world the pyramid is upside down and the aim is to hit bottom. Tyler embodies an out of control alpha male which lies deep in bones of men who have become exhausted by the emptiness of their life. Some suggest, rather in contradiction, that hitting bottom is a means of spiritual realisation because "there's only one way up". It's hard to logically define why hitting bottom would be spiritually awakening, perhaps this is because it is beyond logic and scarcely spiritual! But there is definitely something awakening in losing all of one's inhibitions, fears and attachments to life.

Bear in mind there is also something rather nihilist about losing everything. Can we destroy our ego with out destructing our souls as well?

I recently read a book called "Wynne and Penkovsky". Greville Wynne was British spy during the cold war and was captured by the Russians and inprisoned for 18 months in the Lubyanka prison. I find this particular passage sits rather well with some of the attitude conveyed in the Fight Club novel:

"These apes have made a huge mistake, they have given me a new strength. Now I do not care what happens, I seriously and truthfully do not care. That single maniacal blow has severed for ever the sad connection between my mind and body. My mind floats like a spectator. With my body they can do what they please. They will never force the truth from me now. Never"

[escapeplan]

Originally Posted by The Unconquered

No. Rak and Steve are actually in agreement here.

Fashion is a way of communicating. Instead of dressing by default and letting fashion define him, Steve is learning how to communicate his message through fashion. He now owns it.

Even if what you say about the way Steve uses fashion is correct, it doesn't mean this is the way everybody uses fashion. If fashion is a way of communicating a message then each item of clothing has a meaning to be communicated- in the same way every word does.

Two people could wear the same item of "fashion" clothing for very different reasons. I'd hate to hear people justifying fashion because it's a way of communicating. Before anyone asks, yes my belief in fashion is that it's a waste of time. Think about what fashion is- it's either in fashion with society or it's not. Talk about eroding individualism. That can't be expressed by what you wear but what's on the inside. If Steve wants to communicate openess he can walk around stark naked! Now that's an expression of oneself!

[The Unconquered]

Even if what you say about the way Steve uses fashion is correct, it doesn't mean this is the way everybody uses fashion.

Yes, and Steve is just like everyone else. Amateur.

Amateurs break the rules because they don't know any better.
Average folks follow the rules because they think they must.
Experts know when the rules should be broken.

This is a general principle in life, not just fashion. And again, you admitted you are an amateur.

Before anyone asks, yes my belief in fashion is that it's a waste of time.

Moving on....

If fashion is a way of communicating a message then each item of clothing has a meaning to be communicated- in the same way every word does.

And both fashion and words are limited. Ponder that.

If Steve wants to communicate openess he can walk around stark naked! Now that's an expression of oneself!

Nudism. What an original concept. Considering we're all born naked....

[escapeplan]

Unconquered,

I can't work out if you're a genius or completely round the twist! Either way your posts make me smile!

[The Unconquered]

Originally Posted by escapeplan

Unconquered,

I can't work out if you're a genius or completely round the twist! Either way your posts make me smile!

I can't possibly imagine why both can't be simultaneously true.

[Curtis2011]

I'd rather create enough wealth in my life so I can do anything.


But that's just me...

[The Unconquered]

Originally Posted by Curtis2011

I'd rather create enough wealth in my life so I can do anything.


But that's just me...

You got it bass-ackwards:

When you believe you can do anything, you will create enough wealth.

[escapeplan]

In The Secret it talked about making room in your life for new things. I guess when you get rid of everything that leaves room for a new life. Otherwise you're surrounded by re-enforcing messages of the old you. Kinda like a reverse vision board. Still, what do I know, I'm just an LOA newbie.

Anyway the OP's approach worked well for me.

[rhoeda]

We ARE free.
Nothing holds one back but oneself.
Nothing frees oneself but oneself.
All may very well be necessary for growth.

[escapeplan]

Originally Posted by rhoeda

We ARE free.
Nothing holds one back but oneself.
Nothing frees oneself but oneself.
All may very well be necessary for growth.

If all that's true I've just lost faith in the security of the prison system, big time!

[Tanja]

Originally Posted by rhoeda

Nothing holds one back but oneself.
Nothing frees oneself but oneself.

I agree, it's all in our heads.

[rhoeda]

The saddest thing is to live in ones' own self-made prison.Even a prisoner in a cell can indeed be free.Mandela was a good example of this thinking.

[richardxthripp]

Well if you lose your car, you are less free to travel long distances unaided. If you lose all your clothes, you can't go outside without being indecent. If you lose all your savings, you can't buy stuff without acquiring more money. Losing everything can build personal strength and character, but it isn't a pre-requisite.

[altafajju]

Originally Posted by rak

It’s hard to adopt changes in life when you are very attached; it’s hard to move-on if you’re a type of person who has a mentality of “I AM WHAT I HAVE”

You know this people, they define their selves by the brand of cloths they wear, the title of their position, the amount of salary they receive every month, the car they drive, how beautiful their girlfriend/wife is, how’s their pictures looks like in face-book, from what school they graduated, how many license they have, what’s their business, what places they hang-out, who’s their friend, what’s their hobby, from what roots their family came from and I have many things to write about them but now I’ll stop from this point.

And it will not surprise me if one day when they experience “Satoray” the instant awakening, where they may realize or discover something “profound” like knowing what they really want to do in life or understanding the absolute meaning of happiness but after knowing that, they become immobilize to follow that calling because this things that they HAVE is holding them back and do you know what most people do?

They just keep ignoring their calling, until this voice totally fade away and gone. From there they become zombies, a living dead, doing things that they hate, keep fooling their selves by trying to pretend happy or secure but deep on their gut they know the truth that they are not safe neither happy. Until one day the nature or the SOURCE taken away all of their belongings, this belongings represent as their status symbol, some people didn’t recover because they believe that once their possession was gone they will vanish too. While some people survive and take this as a GO SIGNAL to follow the life they want to live.

I been in this situation before, when the things that you earned from your hard work was gone by just a snap of a finger. Yes! It really feel bad because you will start all over again to save money and everything but I cannot deny the fact that somewhere in my heart I feel very good too, I think the reason for that is having the sense of FREEDOM, because from that moment when I lose the possession that I am protecting for a long time I felt being FREE! It seems those possessions owns me for a long time and now it’s gone, I am not being owned by nobody or anything.

That’s why I can whole heartedly connect my feelings to the movie “Fight Club”. For me Tyler Durden is like a new age messiah who enlightens many people who enslave their own selves.

Actually the title of this article originates from his line and to nail it down. He also said to Edward Norton when they are in the Bar restaurant that


“The things you own… Stop owning you”


Its little bit unwise for me that why we will going to wait until tragedy or some incident will hit us and take away the possessions that holding us back before we change our life?

I believe tragedy is not necessary as a motivation, because we have the greater power to just take it off and do what we want to do. I know it’s hard, but I also knew that it is doable.

Maybe that is the bad effect of watching too much TV it makes you believe that changes is easy, by just a wave of the magic wand, everything will be just fine not until when we hit the rock bottom and starting to realize that life is not a fairy tale and guess what when the time you realize the so called TRUTH its too late and you only have few remaining years to live your life.

But actually there is no TOO LATE to a person who is decided to change his life for the better and willing to be crushed and burned (not literally) by consequences that may backfire at him, but everybody knew who been in this transition stage that the reward is very worthy.

Its true that its more easy to move-on when your back-pack is empty but why are we going to wait the time that those stuffs will snatch from us before we walk the road that will lead us to the destination we want to reach?

Do not wait to lose everything before doing anything you want. Why are we going to wait if we can do it right now?

With all my love
Rak

When we lose EVERYTHING then we are free to do ANYTHING « Rocky Rivera

it's one the best explanation i have ever heard. thanks for putting up this, i am quitting the job now and live the life that i want. what is said here is very true..... (Oh, the boss is coming, never mind hereafter....)

thanks again..

[TheOrange]

Lose your mind first.. cause then you wouldn't need to think before doing things and doing things will become a lot easier.

[Asmoday]

Rak, you might enjoy this if you haven't heard it already:

YouTube - ‪Fight Club - This Is Your Life‬‏